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Milk?
    #7534518 - 10/19/07 08:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Milk, I love it. Always have always will, but is it really good for u. I drink skim now but how bad is this for me?


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Re: Milk? [Re: ZShroom]
    #7534523 - 10/19/07 08:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Cow milk isn't meant for human consumption.
And is linked to a long list of diseases.
But whatever floats your boat.

I try to avoid it but goddamn I love cheese and ice cream.


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Re: Milk? [Re: Shroomism]
    #7534525 - 10/19/07 08:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

fuck, what diseases? Is that why it is pushed down americans throats?
Seems like americas culture is feed some bullshit.

But yes this is making sense to me. Aight no mo milk


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Re: Milk? [Re: ZShroom]
    #7534558 - 10/19/07 09:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well... there's a lot of factors really.
Milk is the perfect food... for newborn calfs... until they are weaned... that goes from a calf to a 300+lb animal in a couple weeks.
We don't drink human breast milk after we start eating solid foods. What makes people think cow's milk is somehow better?
Cow's milk is for baby cows.

Cow dairy products in humans are linked to allergies, acne, asthma, constipation, obesity, heart disease (the number one killer in America), cancer, diabetes, osteoporosis (contrary to what the milk industry would have you believe), and a slew of other diseases.

I don't know why or how milk became so prevalent in modern society. But it's certainly NOT good for you and there is no lack of evidence to back it up. While most milk has all sorts of bacteria, pus, fecal matter, antibiotics, etc.. in it. Even organic milk isn't much better.


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*ALL* cow's milk (regular and 'organic') has 59 active hormones, scores of allergens, fat and cholesterol.

*Most* cow's milk has measurable quantities of herbicides, pesticides, dioxins (up to 200 times the safe levels), up to 52 powerful antibiotics (perhaps 53, with LS-50), blood, pus, feces, bacteria and viruses. (Cow's milk can have traces of anything the cow ate... including such things as radioactive fallout from nuke testing ... (the 50's strontium-90 problem).





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Milk is a national menace and its drinkers are always full of mucus, coughs, headaches, colds and flu. Remember that pasteurization is for the purpose of keeping bad milk in a saleable condition! Mother's breast milk is high in phosphorous (a brain food) and cow's milk is high in calcium (for bone structure). The human baby develops its brain first while the cow develops its bone structure first. So you see it's absurd to feed on cows milk especially for an infant!

Also, cow's milk is 300 times as potent in casein, which furnishes a number of amino acids for supplying the protein molecules to build bone structure that will carry the body's weight as mother's milk--a human develops twice its weight in seven months while a cow develops twice its weight in seven weeks, thus mother's milk for babies and cow's milk for cows, agreed?
Facts: Milk

* Causes arteriosclerosis
* Increases blood cholesterol
* Produces pyorrhea
* Causes obesity
* Coats the stomach--bad digestion
* Causes abnormal calcium deposits
* Causes all kinds of allergies and is not fit for human infants. Milk after weaning is abnormal.






Have some links.

http://www.notmilk.com/
http://www.newstarget.com/002695.html
http://www.rense.com/general26/milk.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-03-08-got-milk_x.htm
http://www.milksucks.com/index2.asp
http://www.all-creatures.org/health/marketing-int.html


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Re: Milk? [Re: Shroomism]
    #7534602 - 10/19/07 09:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I fucking hate milk.


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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: Milk? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7534701 - 10/19/07 09:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

So do I.

But I still can't help myself from eating cheese.. pizza is just amazing.  and god.. ice cream is probably my biggest weakness :crazy:


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Re: Milk? [Re: Shroomism]
    #7534735 - 10/19/07 10:10 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I've successfully adapted pizza to be vegan: I use silken tofu in place of cheese.  It doesn't get stringy and chewy, but it is creamy & a nice contrast to the sauce and veggies.  My son's teenage friends liked it, they even had seconds! :eek:


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Re: Milk? [Re: Veritas]
    #7534776 - 10/19/07 10:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

cool, i wish i had a hippie mom to make me hippie pizza
life sucks:crazy:


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Re: Milk? [Re: Veritas]
    #7535635 - 10/19/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

That doesn't sound too bad.
I've tried the 'non-dairy' and soy cheeses before but they all just taste like crap. Someone needs to figure this out!
Soy ice cream is not really bad at all though. Actually quite good.


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Re: Milk? [Re: Shroomism]
    #7535643 - 10/19/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'll let you guys know the brand I have at home.

I cant' tell the difference...and I love real cheese too.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: Milk? [Re: ZShroom]
    #7535665 - 10/19/07 01:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I just sat down with a cup.

I love milk, and so does Mr. T.


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Re: Milk? [Re: Thin White Duke]
    #7537967 - 10/20/07 01:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Visit www.notmilk.com for everything milk-related you could ever seek.


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Re: Milk? [Re: MK Ultra]
    #7538451 - 10/20/07 07:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

what about goats milk?

And goat cheese... mmmm.


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Re: Milk? [Re: Rustifer]
    #7538478 - 10/20/07 08:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I like milk but never thought it's so harmful :eek:


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Re: Milk? [Re: bi0dileet]
    #7539368 - 10/20/07 01:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Its really not.

Anyone who says drinking milk is going to kill you is just spreading hippie propoganda.

Over thousands of years, your body has become quite adept at using milk and milk products as food.

Dont believe the hype.

I dont drink milk because I dont like the taste/texture, not from deep-seeded paranoia that one day I'm going to wake up with 100 gallons of undigested cow juice sitting in my small intestine.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: Milk? [Re: ZShroom]
    #7541276 - 10/21/07 12:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

there is alot of milk info pro an anti, read them both and make up your on mind


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Re: Milk? [Re: ZShroom]
    #7541902 - 10/21/07 08:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It doesn't matter if drinking cow's milk is completely unnatural. That doesn't mean it's not good for you. The thing is: There's a big difference between the milk you buy at the store, and raw milk:

Why Conventional Milk is Bad

Cows are given steroids and growth hormones so they can be milked a ridiculous amount; to counter the side-effects of the growth hormones (heavy, infected utters), the cows are given large doses of antibiotics: The residues of the steroids, growth hormones, and antibiotics invariably wind up in their milk and meat. A study in the Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology from February 2005 demonstrated a significant positive association between milk drinking and teenage acne. The researchers suggested that the most likely explanation was the presence of hormones and "bioactive molecules" in the milk.

Pasteurization and homogenization: Pasteurization and homogenization both destroy vitally important, healthful compounds in the milk: enzymes; diminishes vitamins (completely destroys vitamins B12 and B6); denatures proteins; kills beneficial bacteria and promotes pathogens.

Raw Milk

Raw milk virtually always comes from grass-fed cows (as opposed to grain-fed cows). What does grass-fed mean? Cars are fed grains, such as corn, on factory farms to fatten them: A concentrated diet of corn can give a cow acidosis, which can lead to general weakening of the immune system that leaves the animal vulnerable to a host of horrible feedlot diseases. Cattle rarely manage to live on grain diets for more than 150 days! Between 15 and 30 percent of them are found to have abcessed livers at slaughter. Some estimates are considerably higher.

Milk contains CLA (conjugated linoleic acid), a chemical known to fight cancer, and raw milk contains the highest amount of it.

Contains healthy enzymes that help the body assimilate nutrients. According to Conneticut naturopath Dr. Ron Schmid, author of Traditional Foods Are Your Best Medicine and The Unttold Story of Milk : Green Pastures, Contented Cows and Raw Dairy Products, enzymes are a critical component in recovering from disease and establishing and maintainging health.

The fat content is completely different than milk from factory-farmed cows. Studies have shown that the omega-3 fat content is as high as 50%; it's virtually non-existent in factory-farmed milk. Research at the University of Aberdeen in Scotland and at the Institute of Grassland and Environmental Research (IGER) at Aberystwyth, Wales, showed that organic milk contains between 71% and 240% more omega-3s than conventional milk; and it has a good ratio of mega-3 to omega-6 fats. This is probably because the pasture-fed cows graze on a diet rich in red clover silage as well as their natural diet of grasses.

Raw milk seems to have been unfairly labeled a risk. The Weston A. Price Foundation website talks about it:

Except for a brief hiatus in 1990, raw milk has always been for sale commercially in California, usually in health food stores, although (there was) a period when it was even sold in grocery stores. Millions of people consumed commercial raw milk during that period and although the health department kept an eagle eye open for any possibile evidence of harm, not a single incidence was reported. During the same period, there were many instances of contamination in pasteurized milk, some which resulted in death.

(Paraphrased from The 150 Healthiest Foods on Earth, Jonny Bowden, Ph.D., C.N.S.)

http://organicpastures.com/
http://realmilk.com/


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Re: Milk? [Re: JunkFood]
    #7545067 - 10/21/07 10:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

"Hippie propaganda?" Were you on the debate team in high school? Because that argument sure shut ME up!


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Re: Milk? [Re: MK Ultra]
    #7546423 - 10/22/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I just calls 'em likes I see's 'em.


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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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