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Walter1496211
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Temperature.
#7534319 - 10/19/07 07:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have heard about a million different temps that are supposed to be optimal for mycelium I have seen teks that have been perfect at 80-86 and yet other say 72-80 is perfect I would like to see the results and timeliness for both claims thank you.
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Hippie3
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lol nice, neat and handed to you on silver platter is great but no such data matrix to be found. you won't go wrong with an air temp of 80*F* for incubation and 75*F for fruiting.
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Walter1496211
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Re: Temperature. [Re: Hippie3]
#7534333 - 10/19/07 07:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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How long does it take you for full colonization at 80 degrees? That is the type of info I am looking for. And I would like pics and timlines as well.
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Walter1496211
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http://www.shroomery.org/8432/From-syringe-to-print-using-rye
For instance many follow this tek if it is so wrong why does it have almost five stars????
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HappyHardcore
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It is a very useful tek for techniques, and it is not "so" wrong. May be a little off an some small things.
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86F is not optimal, no matter what. Mycelium growth in cubensis slows down at any temperature 83F and above. By 86, you're hurting the mushroom mycelium and stimulating thermophilic molds and bacteria. Normal room temperature works great for colonizing substrates, but at least try to keep it below 81F for best performance. RR
Whether or not magash still uses 86F as temps anymore, I do not know, but how he did it, in his experience, worked out for him whether it was optimal or not. Also... from RogerRabbit
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The guy in the 'mushroom growing made easy' video also refers to trichoderma as green penicillium mold, and dozens of other blatant errors.
86F is too hot. That figure comes from an error in paul stamets TMC, which was corrected in later books. However, many growers only have TMC, thus refer to it as the bible, as if everything we've learned about mushroom growing since 1985 when artificial cultivation at home was in its infancy, is void.
There is currently yet ANOTHER thread about temps, and that's where I got the RR quotes from...
There is never ANY set time for colonization at 80F. Everything is going to colonize differently depending on... Strain (whether it's isolate, clone or not), whether it's LC, multispore (which can vary quite often), procedures of preparing whether preparing rye, wbs, brf, whether shaken, ect, ect, ect...
Like in magashes rye tek, it took him 9 days.. And that is pretty fast and not likely for an inexperienced grower to achieve, especially with a multispore...
My rye jars shot up with multispore Orrisa incubated at 80-82, for full colo has taken me 2 weeks, and they are now done... I also shook them at about 20%
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I colonize and fruit in the 68-72(F) range and while my colonization times are generally 4-7 longer than higher temperatures - taking up to 14-20 days for rye grains - the results speak for themselves in that over a dozen or so inoculations, I'm still at least than a 1% contaminated jar percentage.
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Don't mistake my tone for a "matter-of-fact" attitude. I'm just presenting what I believe to be correct, until I'm corrected... - How Myco-Curious Prepares Coir & Compost Substrates - How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier - How Myco-Curious Builds An Automated Greenhouse ------------------------------------ figgusfiddus said: Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.
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