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TylerxDurden
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Acacia
#7532098 - 10/18/07 04:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I looked all over erowid for some information regarding Acacia, and couldn't find very much. I have a number of different Acacia plants growing in my area, and I recently heard they contain DMT (among other things). Wikipedia had a nice chart detailing the alkaloids in various strains/varities of Acacia.
However, most of the Acacia strains have (what seems like) a small percentage of active alkaloids. (ie. .02-4%) I can't do an extensive, complicated extraction but I was wondering if there was any way to trip off of these plants. Some have the alkaloids in the bark, some in the leaves, and others in the seeds.
My main question is, how much DMT is necessary to have an effect, and has anyone tried Acacia?
Thanks in advance...
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TylerxDurden
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TylerxDurden said: My main question is, how much DMT is necessary to have an effect
The orally active dose is much higher than smoked DMT, but I'm not sure exactly how much you need to ingest. Remember also if you do it that you are suppoused to take oral DMT with an MAOI (Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor).
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I read somewhere how much, I forget. Its probably somewhere on this page, lots of info.
http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=11
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use the search i jus saw another thread in ODD the other week
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Re: Acacia [Re: Coaster]
#7534108 - 10/19/07 04:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You'd have to consume massive amounts i think. With Acacias, even a shoebox full of the best bark might only give you 1 or 2 grams when extracted.
It's highly unlikely you'll get anything from a random acacia unless you know exactly what your looking for.
Extractions are extensive or complicated, they're easy to do and easily done in a day.
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Robo
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undergrounder said: You'd have to consume massive amounts
If you are considering doing oral DMT I'd suggest going with an ayahuasca brew.
Edited by Adagio (10/19/07 11:10 AM)
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TylerxDurden
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Re: Acacia [Re: Robo]
#7536083 - 10/19/07 03:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was planning on smoking it, and only once. If a low dose is around 20mg, and the plant contains 1% DMT, than 2 grams should work right? I don't mind taking several hits, and I don't really want to do a massive amount either.
An extraction doesn't really bother me too much, as long as I don't need more than a couple chemicals.
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Robo
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Really all you need is MHRB, Sodium Hydroxide, and some Naptha.
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TylerxDurden
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Re: Acacia [Re: Robo]
#7536175 - 10/19/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can a similar extraction be done with other DMT containing plants?
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Robo
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Sure, but I'd still recommend MHRB because you can extract up to 7+ grams N,N-DMT from 500 grams (1/2 kg) of Mimosa.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=1&Number=6931010&fpart=&PHPSESSID=
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acacia will need a defat step using an acid. mhrb is very clean and needs no defatting.
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Robo
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Yup, you can skip the defat step with MHRB, but if you want to you can do a solvent wash of the plant matter. Not necessary, though.
Edited by Adagio (10/19/07 05:19 PM)
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I bought random acacia and it did a thing. I smoked a mix from acacia leaves, bark and flowers. Inhaled a few bowls. It opened my chakras suddenly and cleaned all of them. When i closed my eyes i could meditate in buddha's method '' be the moment''. A GREAT thing for meditation. But if you want to trip on it through the wonderland you should smoke a lot i think or take it orally with MAOI. Try it.
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smoking just the plant matter has pretty much negligible effects. Acacia Maidenii is your friend.
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