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Maximum knife sentencing doubles
    #7530443 - 10/18/07 08:41 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Tough measures to reduce knife crime are set to be introduced in Northern Ireland, under a proposed new law.


The sentence for anyone caught carrying a blade will double from two years to four.

The government is also looking into a licensing scheme to regulate the sale of knives.

Criminal Justice Minister Paul Goggins said the powers "cover any implement that has a blade or point or that may be deemed as an offensive weapon."........

The government is also examining how to develop a code of practice on the sale of knives, and it is looking at other items like Samurai swords which may be added to the list of offensive weapons.....

The legislative proposals being announced on Thurdsay would mean a maximum four-year sentence for the following offences:

.Having a knife in a public place or on school premises

.Possession of an offensive weapon

.Selling a knife to a person under the age of 18

.Manufacture or sale of certain knives (flick or gravity knives)

.Unlawful marketing and publications connected with the marketing of knives

.Manufacturing or sale of a flick knife or gravity knife

.Sale or possession of a crossbow to someone under the age of 18.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7050182.stm


"Criminal Justice Minister Paul Goggins said the powers "cover any implement that has a blade or point or that may be deemed as an offensive weapon."........






Pointy sticks, pointy pens, tire irons, hammers, wrenchs, 2x4s, stones, Bananas......


Liberals/Leftists are salivating over the endless possibilities for control and Revenue/money!


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Re: Maximum knife sentencing doubles [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7530484 - 10/18/07 08:55 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Liberals?

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Re: Maximum knife sentencing doubles [Re: Arp]
    #7530500 - 10/18/07 09:01 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

and Leftists.;)


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Re: Maximum knife sentencing doubles [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7530532 - 10/18/07 09:12 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Sheriff of Nottingham: Locksley! I'll cut your heart out with a spoon.
Guy of Gisborne: Why a spoon, cousin? Why not an axe, or a... ?
Sheriff of Nottingham: Because it's DULL, you twit. It'll hurt more.

-Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves

I wonder how long before they outlaw sharp edges and pointy corners...  :rolleyes:


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Re: Maximum knife sentencing doubles [Re: Seuss]
    #7530554 - 10/18/07 09:19 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Why don't they just make assault and murder illegal? That should fix the problem, no?


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Re: Maximum knife sentencing doubles [Re: Seuss]
    #7530564 - 10/18/07 09:22 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

:smile: I guess they  prefer us serfs to be murdered with  blunt/dull objects as opposed to a sharp/pointy objects:shrug:. SICK BASTARDS!


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Edited by lonestar2004 (10/18/07 09:24 AM)

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Re: Maximum knife sentencing doubles [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7530593 - 10/18/07 09:33 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

In some(most?) European nations the "liberals" are on the right side of the political spectrum.

The liberal party (APNI) only obtained 3,7% of the votes in the 2007 election.



See how right-wing conservatives and nationalists are taking over (DUP=right wing, Sinn Féin=nationalist).

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Re: Maximum knife sentencing doubles [Re: Arp]
    #7530610 - 10/18/07 09:42 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

He doesn't want to hear that.

It doesn't fit in with is "Dirty Libs are Making the Sky Fall" world-view.


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Re: Maximum knife sentencing doubles [Re: Arp]
    #7530766 - 10/18/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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In some(most?) European nations the "liberals" are on the right side of the political spectrum.






So In the U.K. Politicians like Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher are considered Liberal-Leftists, not Conservatives?????


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Re: Maximum knife sentencing doubles [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7530936 - 10/18/07 11:32 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I would put Thatcher on the right side of the spectrum.

a quote from wikipedia:
"In France and in Southern Europe, the word liberal does not always include the suggestion of general support for individual rights that it carries in Northern Europe. More, in those countries liberalism is associated with the right-wing, as it is also in Germany, the Netherlands, Denmark and Switzerland, while it is more closely associated with the left-wing in the United Kingdom, which has a political history in some ways similar with that of the United States, and in some Scandinavian countries. Anyway it is to remember that, before the rise of democratic socialism and of social democracy, liberals were the left-wing opposed to the right-wing conservatives. In many countries liberals were replaced by social-democrats or pulled towards the centre or the right-wing. Liberal ideas were absorbed by the conservatives concerning the economy and the individualist vision of men and society, especially in those countries in which liberals disappeard as an independent political force."

I'm not so familiar with systems outside Scandinavia, but here liberals coalition themselves with conservatives and various right-wing elements. They usually advocate a free-market with less governmental interference.

Edited by Arp (10/18/07 11:38 AM)

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Re: Maximum knife sentencing doubles [Re: Arp]
    #7530955 - 10/18/07 11:39 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

i updated it with the full segment :smile:

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Re: Maximum knife sentencing doubles [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7531230 - 10/18/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Hillary's propaganda has reached Ireland! :eek:


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Re: Maximum knife sentencing doubles [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7531973 - 10/18/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

now I'm doing the Riverdance....in your faces!


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Re: Maximum knife sentencing doubles [Re: afoaf]
    #7531999 - 10/18/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

River Dance Monkeys (Remix)



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Re: Maximum knife sentencing doubles [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7532019 - 10/18/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

if only the monkeys had knives in their hands while they danced.

then it would be perfect.


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