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Do We Control Facial Expressions?
    #7531731 - 10/18/07 03:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I guess this would go under here, not sure.

Anyhow, do you think we actually control our facial expressions or is it the direct result of how we feel?


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Re: Do We Control Facial Expressions? [Re: mushroomplume]
    #7531746 - 10/18/07 03:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

We can consciously choose to change the muscles in our face to whatever expression we wish, but usually how we really feel comes through somehow, more subtly.


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Re: Do We Control Facial Expressions? [Re: Lion]
    #7531832 - 10/18/07 03:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's a mixture of both. Someone who has a good "poker face" can keep a straight face pretty well. But can you laugh without smiling? I sure can't.


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Re: Do We Control Facial Expressions? [Re: Lion]
    #7531842 - 10/18/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

When I first read this I thought it was a simple question with a simple obvious answer.
However the more I think about it it seems to me that the basic facial expressions that accompany crying and laughing may be natural, that is "not learned". Babies start out crying, and they have the classic screwed up face that follows us to the end of our days. Laughing faces may also be natural, as they occur very early in our development as well. Other, more subtle expressions are probably learned. Like questioning faces and expressions of disdain, flirting expressions etc. Although as we grow more sophisticated we are able to control our expressions, sometimes complete control can be obtained. But like BUG said usually the basic underlying emotions show through.

Ever tried NOT to laugh when something was very funny?


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Re: Do We Control Facial Expressions? [Re: El Zorro]
    #7531997 - 10/18/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think it is both, but I wonder to what extent though.

haha, another little tangent. Whenever we accuse someone of being fake, why do they appear fake? We all know good and well that we bullshit constantly with people throughout life, what makes "these" people seem fake to us?

Are they just bad actors?


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Re: Do We Control Facial Expressions? [Re: mushroomplume]
    #7532501 - 10/18/07 06:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

^Do you mean "fake" in the more shallow, superficial sense -- or fake in the sense that someone is being disingenuous? (fine line, true)


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Re: Do We Control Facial Expressions? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #7532602 - 10/18/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Land_Crab said:
^Do you mean "fake" in the more shallow, superficial sense -- or fake in the sense that someone is being disingenuous? (fine line, true)




It seems that the ones who come across as superficial are just the bad actors.

I'm sure all of us here have been lied to at some point and time, but would never have thought of that person as a acting fake at the time.


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Re: Do We Control Facial Expressions? [Re: mushroomplume]
    #7535225 - 10/19/07 12:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

a smile means the same thing in every single culture
as well as a frown


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Re: Do We Control Facial Expressions? [Re: Lion]
    #7535254 - 10/19/07 12:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

bug said:
We can consciously choose to change the muscles in our face to whatever expression we wish, but usually how we really feel comes through somehow, more subtly.




:thumbup: i think it's the eyes..


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Re: Do We Control Facial Expressions? [Re: Clean]
    #7535840 - 10/19/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Do We Control Facial Expressions? [Re: mushroomplume]
    #7535881 - 10/19/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I got 18/20


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Re: Do We Control Facial Expressions? [Re: Toddo]
    #7537080 - 10/19/07 08:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

that was a really interesting test
i got 16/20, you beat me punk :frown:


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Re: Do We Control Facial Expressions? [Re: SampaJasli]
    #7544808 - 10/21/07 09:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If you really disconnect from reality and your body and go inside your mind like when your day dreaming, you can have all these thoughts and they dont register on your face so much. So i think state of mind also has a large effect on facial expression. Like laughter is something which is really hard to control, but how often do you laugh when your by yourself? It seems laughter is done to express to others that we find something funny.


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Re: Do We Control Facial Expressions? [Re: DimensionX]
    #7544851 - 10/21/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I got 17 out of 20 correct.


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Re: Do We Control Facial Expressions? [Re: Crystal G]
    #7545003 - 10/21/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Bah, I got 10 out of 20...

maybe if they didn't use british people... i was too distracted by their teeth


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Re: Do We Control Facial Expressions? [Re: boxcarguy07]
    #7545156 - 10/21/07 11:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

^^maybe thats the reason you cant tell, youre too used to fake-toothed smiles


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