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How long will humans last?
    #7531497 - 10/18/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

How many people can this world sustain? Are we near the end? The following graph is very thought provoking and I wonder how much higher the graph can go!



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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Stizzle]
    #7531509 - 10/18/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Everyone knows were all gonna die in 2012 anyway


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Stizzle]
    #7531511 - 10/18/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

We have some time yet.

Until that asteroid comes in 2021.


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Stizzle]
    #7531516 - 10/18/07 02:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: ganjaguru]
    #7531518 - 10/18/07 02:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Everyone knows were all gonna die in 2012 anyway




What haven't they told me?


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Stizzle]
    #7531549 - 10/18/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

put it this way...every single person on earth could fit in texas with 1000 sq. ft of land a piece

we are no where close to overpopulation yet


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7531584 - 10/18/07 02:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah but dont come to Texas, we dont need any more dirty hippies.

I saw a thing on national geographic about it Zepp, just google Dec 21st 2012, Were all dead. Everyone knows it


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7531585 - 10/18/07 02:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

So, if my calculations are correct, Texas is 6,000,000,000,000 sq. ft big?

EDIT: Yep, it's much bigger in fact.


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Stizzle]
    #7531586 - 10/18/07 02:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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How many people can this world sustain?





Comfortably, about ten billion people. With fusion energy in a hydrogen economy, I'd say about a hundred billion people. If we really had to cram it we could accommodate a trillion people, but we'd then have something that's more of a Borg cube than a planet.

With a trillion people on plan et earth, most of the landmass would be citylike, with dozens of levels below the ground and lots of skyscraper cities. You'd have cities floating on the ocean, submerged cities in the ocean and cities on the bottom of the ocean. You'd have sky cities floating on ginormous balloons of hydrogen high into the stratosphere. You'd have cities orbiting the planet.

But we're not supposed to do that, we're supposed to move into space and spread out among the stars. A good number of people on a planet like this is one billion people. Population control can help: if we allow two kids per family, enough families will opt for one or none and population will decrease.
We can handle this, or mother nature will do it for us the hard way.


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7531603 - 10/18/07 02:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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put it this way...every single person on earth could fit in texas with 1000 sq. ft of land a piece





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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Thin White Duke]
    #7531604 - 10/18/07 02:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

there is about 7 trillion square feet in texas


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Atheist]
    #7531611 - 10/18/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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put it this way...every single person on earth could fit in texas with 1000 sq. ft of land a piece





that cant be right



wanna bet?


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7531619 - 10/18/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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there is about 7 trillion square feet in texas




Quite mind boggling.


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Thin White Duke]
    #7531622 - 10/18/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah...texas is a big fucking state...

and 1000 sq. ft isnt huge ...but it aint bad either..ive lived in some tiny studios in nyc


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7531623 - 10/18/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

no thanks, i'll just believe you haha


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7531633 - 10/18/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

How big a cage would you put a human in? I'd say the bare minimum a person needs would be a hectare (100x100mtr), most of it being public space.


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7531635 - 10/18/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I did the math (roughly) and suprisingly he is correct.

Texas is ~270,000 square miles or 7,527,168,000,000 square feet.

Giving 6billion people 1000sqft. each comes out to 215,220.39 square miles.


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Atheist]
    #7531636 - 10/18/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Everything is bigger in texas


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Asante]
    #7531638 - 10/18/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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How big a cage would you put a human in? I'd say the bare minimum a person needs would be a hectare (100x100mtr), most of it being public space.




Shit jail cells are what... 8x8 ft?
We got plenty of room


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Thin White Duke]
    #7531639 - 10/18/07 03:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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there is about 7 trillion square feet in texas





My new shoes must be made in Texas then :crankey:


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Stizzle]
    #7531643 - 10/18/07 03:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i dont make stuff up.....

and to wiccan..im not saying anyone should have only 1000 sq ft to live....im just pointing out that the world is far from overpopulated ....


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: ganjaguru]
    #7531648 - 10/18/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Shit jail cells are what... 8x8 ft?
We got plenty of room




Thats not living. We don't want a prison planet.


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Asante]
    #7531654 - 10/18/07 03:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well there was no mention of comfortably in your post.


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: ganjaguru]
    #7531675 - 10/18/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You can't give everybody only 1000 sq ft because people will have to move about. If you subtract roads & community buildings from those 1000 sq ft, we might as well live in a jail cell.

If you have a spacecraft of a square kilometer you could put 10-25 people in there without them going hopping mad in a few years.

And even then, there would have to be free happy drugs for all to cope with the confinement.


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Asante]
    #7531683 - 10/18/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

? i dont think you are getting my point


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7531690 - 10/18/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'm getting your point :smile: I'm just more practically thinking of how much space we'd need :smile:


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: ganjaguru]
    #7531691 - 10/18/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

1000 square feet is like 15 times the size of a 8x8 jail cell.


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    #7531693 - 10/18/07 03:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

In the Matrix you only need 20 sq ft :awesome:


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Asante]
    #7531694 - 10/18/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ok...then lets add a few more states for a few extra sq. ft per person

that leaves every other continent human-less....we are so not even close to overpopulation


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7531717 - 10/18/07 03:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If we don't get our shit together some terrible disease will come along and slay billions in one year.


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Asante]
    #7533059 - 10/18/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

life isnt all about how much space you have, we need resources to live, the more people the more space we need for producing food, and oxygen, and resources to build


World Population from US Sensus Bureau
07/01/07 6,602,274,812
08/01/07 6,608,818,475
09/01/07 6,615,362,139
10/01/07 6,621,694,717
11/01/07 6,628,238,381
12/01/07 6,634,570,959
01/01/08 6,641,114,623
02/01/08 6,647,658,287
03/01/08 6,653,779,780
04/01/08 6,660,323,443
05/01/08 6,666,656,022
06/01/08 6,673,199,685
07/01/08 6,679,532,264

according to that graph, the population doubles roughly every 30 years, by 2030 we'll be at 17 Bill, 2060 34 billion, 2090 64 billion, 2120 128 billion.


going up pretty fast, and we dont seem to be getting much smarter... wasting huge amounts of our resources protecting ourselves from ourselves.


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7534185 - 10/19/07 05:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

shit ive stll got plenty of room at my house...sleepover any1?


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Stizzle]
    #7534211 - 10/19/07 05:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

As far as im concerned, we have no where near reached our population limit on this planet.... nor do i believe that for any particular reason we will all be wiped out in 2012 or 2021, be it by asteroid or nuclear holocaust. The human race is no where near the peak of our evolutionary track... think about it.


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Psylo_Subliminal]
    #7534213 - 10/19/07 05:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i fully agree. I think its POSSIBLE for some sort of disaster to happen. But i tend to think more on the optimistic side. Im stoked to see human advances...even within the next 5 or 10 years


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Itzpointless]
    #7534224 - 10/19/07 05:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

And as for Nuclear Holocaust... i absolutly think its possible, infact i think the chance of one acctually occuring are rather signifigant. But i will argue the fact that it will be the final end and demise of the human race. As a point to ponder tho... If it did manage to wipe out the ENTIRE human race, yes all 6 billion of us... then it would alose bring about the demise of planet earth. And then....well just think about it.:stoned:


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Itzpointless]
    #7534225 - 10/19/07 05:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the problem lies with the fact that with every house built= more people and at the same time less land for crops.

ontop of this, the more "advanced" we get it seems the more we pollute...funny how that works. I'm not just talking about cars either.

What some fail to realize is that our world is also being polluted from the inside(sewage and every dam chemical you can name).

This is a huge problem overlooked because...by time we notice it...it will be WAY to late...and i think its already showing in the tree's...they are all dieing.


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7534233 - 10/19/07 06:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well fuck ... lets plan an attack...saving only fellow shroomerites...well..some of u haha. One of two things will happen:


Well successfully organize a massive genocide and survive relying on the resources that we have left.

ooooor

We end up killing outselves along with everyone else. But wed prolly be so fried anyway that we wouldnt give a fuck hahaha


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: Stizzle]
    #7534341 - 10/19/07 07:16 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think a superbug will kill us all at some point.


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    #7534353 - 10/19/07 07:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yes thats another good point, the more the world is destroyed, the less things are kept in check. Any number of things could cause some mold competitor to go extinct and have black mold growing unchecked as an example. Same thing with viruses and what not....not to mention their are scientists out their CREATING viruses...wtf idiots i swear.


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    #7534357 - 10/19/07 07:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Time to bust out the soylent green.


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Re: How long will humans last? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7534358 - 10/19/07 07:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think humans (isolated tribes, etc) will last for quite a while, but I suspect modern society is running on borrowed time.


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