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boomer q
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mean green on a cake
#7530559 - 10/18/07 09:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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so i have a few cakes in one of my fcs, it has 3 full pint cakes and like 6 half pint cakes, all are either on their 3rd or 4th flush...however, one of the full pint cakes developed some green mold in a very small spot on the top... i dunked it 3 days ago and just noticed it now...only thing is that theres still a bevy of healthy looking pins on the cake, and all the others. i was planning on letting these cakes flush themselves out and when theyr done i was gonna clean out the fc real good and put in some new perlite...
so should i let the cake with the green fruit? other than the spot of green, the pins are lookin bigger and better on it than the rest of the cakes...i was thinking about just leaving it be and harvesting this flush, and then throw out all the remaining cakes anyway....so seeing as how im not expecting much more out of these cakes, would it be alright to ignore the green for a couple days, so i can get a decent sized flush, or should i immediately evict the green cake and just pick off the pins?
sorry if these questions sounded dumb, i havent had to deal much with the green meanies before
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Re: mean green on a cake [Re: boomer q]
#7530570 - 10/18/07 09:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd get rid of it fast,next thing you know all your cakes will be infected.
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boomer q
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Re: mean green on a cake [Re: avidpicker]
#7530586 - 10/18/07 09:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok, another question, can i quarantine the cake and just let it flush by itself? or should i just throw out the cake?
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Re: mean green on a cake [Re: avidpicker]
#7530591 - 10/18/07 09:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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If its pinning, put the cake in a large ziplock bag and let iot flush. Keep it away from everything else. Toss it and the bag once its done this flush..
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boomer q
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Re: mean green on a cake [Re: Slimz]
#7530595 - 10/18/07 09:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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thats what i was trying to hear, i just felt bad throwin out a cake with 10-15 healthy lookin pins, just on account of a little green spot
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Re: mean green on a cake [Re: boomer q]
#7530634 - 10/18/07 09:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mind you, I have NO experience in the field whatsoever. But I know I would not want to waste the cake either. especialy for some green mold, when i was planning on throwing everything away after anyway..
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Re: mean green on a cake [Re: Slimz]
#7530671 - 10/18/07 10:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yea, i figger its worth a try to save the baby pins, it was such a great cake before the disease came
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Re: mean green on a cake [Re: boomer q]
#7530701 - 10/18/07 10:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you're going to go with letting it fruit, you should atleast cut off the green spot on the cake, otherwise bits (that you may not see) may fall onto your pins, and after harvest, you'll have bits of invisible green on your shrooms. Especially if you isolate it in a ziplock bag. Doing that might allow the green to smear against the sides, then transmitting that to the rest of the cake/the pins growing and the green will have successfully spread. IF you're going to continue growth on that cake, you should definitely remove the green spot as efficiently as you can.
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Re: mean green on a cake [Re: boomer q]
#7530703 - 10/18/07 10:13 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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you can spay with a little H2O2 before you put it in a ziplock that wont get rid of the spores that are allready there but might keep the contam from spreading as fast if you didnt spray it with peroxide just a thought
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boomer q
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thanks fellas...good ideas
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Re: mean green on a cake [Re: boomer q]
#7530870 - 10/18/07 11:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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NEVER attempt to cut contamination out of a cake. This has been posted so many times, I can't believe people still give the horrible advice to attempt to cut it out. Doing so only spreads the contaminant spores. There is NO SUCH THING AS GREEN MOLD! The mold is white. Only the spores are green. You CAN'T cut it out.
Peroxide will NOT kill trichoderma.
Toss out contaminated cakes, or bury them outside. Don't leave them in the fruiting chamber to finish. The FC is easy to clean. The surfaces of all the walls/carpet/drapes/clothing in your house is impossible to clean, thus mold spores will be haunting you for years to come. RR
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Re: mean green on a cake [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7530897 - 10/18/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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shucks
so does thst mean that the whole cake has trich? if so, when in the cycle would it have contracted it? if it was there from the beginning and fruited, then the fruits are ok, right? how about the current pins?
sorry, i just dont know much about trich, i reckon
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Re: mean green on a cake [Re: boomer q]
#7530951 - 10/18/07 11:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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peroxide doesnt kill trich? does alcohol? I have some trich on my shiitaki log and the instructions say to swap it with alcohol every once in a while ..
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CaptainLinger
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shittake is going to be far more resistant to contamination. That's bad advice anyway, as RR says...you're still sending shitloads of green mold spores into the air, including each time you disturb the log to swab.
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Mind you, I have NO experience in the field whatsoever.
Uh, what? The one wonky thing RR didn't cover...a ziploc? If you have no experience, this is why you read the forums and learn. Don't waste your own time, and kill grows around the country giving simultaneously poor AND ineffectual advice. Mushrooms need low CO2 levels to pin. Putting your cake in a ziploc bag will ensure that trichodermia takes over everything, and not a single mushroom will grow.
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