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Drying Cyans??
    #7529114 - 10/17/07 07:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Is it normal when drying cyans for the caps to get very light colored??


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: Mongala]
    #7529117 - 10/17/07 07:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yes


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: fliped]
    #7529127 - 10/17/07 08:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

while this thread has been created, what youre drying teks people? i use a dehydrator, not too hot, they still pretty potent. is there a better way?


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: casgoodie]
    #7529232 - 10/17/07 08:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

on a newspaper with a fan on em, then into the desiccant (baked epsom salts) chamber.


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: CptnGarden]
    #7529280 - 10/17/07 08:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I just lay them on paper towels in a shoebox then into my closet they go


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: Mongala]
    #7529287 - 10/17/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

whats a good place to keep them once there dried to keep maximum potency for long periods of time?


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: Mongala]
    #7529312 - 10/17/07 09:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

after dried i keep them in sealed plastic bags and then covered by a paper bag to prevent contact wit light. very important to be sure they are 101% dry before placing in plastic bags so they dont mold or rot.

what is a good dissecant?


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: casgoodie]
    #7529360 - 10/17/07 09:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

CptGarden up there says baked epsom salt works


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: Mongala]
    #7529363 - 10/17/07 09:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

something easily available?


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: casgoodie]
    #7529446 - 10/17/07 10:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Epsom Salt is easily available.


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: Asante]
    #7529507 - 10/17/07 10:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

table salt can be baked and used too.

dont u know how we humans made salted meats? we would fire roast salt so it would expel moisture, and then bury chunks of meat deep into it.
preserving it.

epsom salt is 1-2$ for a milk carton of salts, less expensive than table salt, and usually easier to find.

in an airtight enclosure, the salt sucks the remaining moisture from the mushrooms, to try and rehydrate itself.

if your mushrooms arent cracker dry, and they still flex or bend, they will mold in a jar or bag. its happened to me once with a few different kinds of mushrooms, mainly agaricus augustus. digging into your pantry for some caps for your upcoming soup and finding a jar full of moldy lumps, is kinda irritating.

now i use baked epsom flakes, wrapped up in a paper towel and taped shut, throw into the jar or bag with them to keep them CRACKER DRY. most dessicants are poisonous anyways, with epsom or table salt u can easily stick the mushrooms directly into the salts and not worry about accidentally consuming some. the worst u will get from eating TOO MUCH epsom salts is diarrhea, otherwise its completely harmless.


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: CptnGarden]
    #7529523 - 10/17/07 10:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

so its findable at a grocery store? where the table salt wood bee? thanks for the explanation btw


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: Asante]
    #7529554 - 10/17/07 10:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I took an old food dehydrator and just cut the heating element inside. throw a few trays with mushies in there and let it sit for about 6 hours.

viola! nice and crispy.


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: Pigsarefood]
    #7529588 - 10/17/07 11:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thats a good option too. im afraid to do that because i use the dehydrator for fruit as well and then it wouldnt work so well. is it easy to remove and replace the heating device in a dehydrator?


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: casgoodie]
    #7529831 - 10/18/07 01:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If you have a dehydrator use it.
If you don't, you don't really have to bother with salts, or anything like that. If you have whole room to dry them, just spread them on some newspapers and let them dry "ye old way". Takes it's time, but you don't need any electricity or other anything...


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: Fahkface]
    #7529850 - 10/18/07 01:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

food dehydrator is great!
don't use one myself... but you cant go wrong with that.
I put mine on a screen, a couple of feet above a radiator heater...
warm, dry air -
THEN... grind those babies up in a coffee grinder, put them in half-gram gel-caps -- and into the freezer they go.
I get 5 years or more out them that way, and they're easier to transport.


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: Fahkface]
    #7529855 - 10/18/07 01:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

hey... Cptn...
Why would I want to get my epsom salts baked?
And how?
Bong? Papers?

help.


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: mattso]
    #7529909 - 10/18/07 02:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i like that idea, where to get the gel caps ?


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: Fahkface]
    #7529921 - 10/18/07 02:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

air drying, even with a fan can only go so far in many areas. as an example; the air on the olympic peninsula in autum/winter is wet - like hard to keep a cigarette burning wet at times. it is not possible to dry mushrooms in such air and dehumidification or desiccant's become nessecary.


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: casgoodie]
    #7529924 - 10/18/07 02:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Within a three foot range from the back of the computer. A computer will keep room temp higher, with a detriment depending on size of said room.

Added benefit is a slow warm airflow about a foot over the mushrooms (Only in an ATX Mid or Full Tower, in upright postition).

The elevated air flow will keep more spores on the paper, by creating a softer lift of air, rather than a direct flow.


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: jet li]
    #7537469 - 10/19/07 10:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ok, just bought some epsom salt and my mushrooms an extra dehydrator session, been in paper bags since. so do i just make like a tebag of epsom salt and put it in an air tight container with the fungi? or do i have to bake it ? just asking cause cptngarden said BAKED epsom salt. so bake it or just use it?


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: casgoodie]
    #7537494 - 10/19/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

baking will make it most effective as it is hygroscopic, and draws moisture from the air. it does this by driving the moisture back out of the salts and thus allowing them to take up a greater amount of water from the air, which is in turn leached from your even damper mushrooms untill either both the air and the mushrooms are dry or they have taken up water to capacity.

you can take a decent sized sealable container, line the bottom with an inch or two of salts and place some sort of improvised rack inside to set the mushrooms on. just be sure the mushrooms are held above contact with the epsom salts, as they are a strong laxative. the idea is to have enough salts to readily take up all the water. seal the container and leave 24 hours or more. when finished, keep the mushrooms in a sealed impermeable container away from heat and uv light [such as sunlight].


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: canid]
    #7537509 - 10/19/07 10:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i used to dry my picks with a fan and intermintend heater bursts.

now i have no fan
so the 2 i have are just sitting on my desk. i hope they dont rot. any iders?


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: canid]
    #7537510 - 10/19/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ok, thanks, so just put it on a cookie sheet and bake it for a while? as for a rack i dont know what to do, could a couple layers of paper towel do the job? the fungi is pretty much cracker dry, just want to guarantee with the salts


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: jet li]
    #7537772 - 10/20/07 12:07 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You could use Damp Rid. It's easy to find at stores like Target. It's a great desiccant.


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: jet li]
    #7537785 - 10/20/07 12:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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jet li said:
Within a three foot range from the back of the computer. A computer will keep room temp higher, with a detriment depending on size of said room.

Added benefit is a slow warm airflow about a foot over the mushrooms (Only in an ATX Mid or Full Tower, in upright postition).

The elevated air flow will keep more spores on the paper, by creating a softer lift of air, rather than a direct flow.




Yeah, I agree, but these people think it takes some sorta miracle to dry a damn mushroom. Seriously with you all the way bro. Even the big juicy ones dry out just fine with this tech. Later, keep finding those monster patches holmes.


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Re: Drying Cyans?? [Re: casgoodie]
    #7537789 - 10/20/07 12:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I scored a K-Tel dehydrator at the Salvation Army for $4 a few weeks ago.

Testing it tonight!


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