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Offlinefreddurgan
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Something I read about drugs in the Pub
    #7527972 - 10/17/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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"I think it means that people who didn't have an opinion to begin with tried to find one using drugs. This cannot work. But if you have and opinion and a solid foundation of who you are and what you want then and only then can it help open your mind to the path you have already chosen."

What do you think about this? I was 18 when I first started using drugs of various sorts and I didn't have a clue about life or any opinion of it whatsoever. I feel today like I lack identity but at the same time I'm OK with that. I feel like my lack of identity is an identity. Perhaps a weakening of the ego, or perhaps an ego strengthening that is so overwhelming that I'm convinced that it's actually a weakening.

I don't know where I'm going with this but I'm curious as to your opinions on the original quote.


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Re: Something I read about drugs in the Pub [Re: freddurgan]
    #7528083 - 10/17/07 02:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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"I think it means that people who didn't have an opinion to begin with tried to find one using drugs. This cannot work. But if you have and opinion and a solid foundation of who you are and what you want then and only then can it help open your mind to the path you have already chosen."




I think though drugs people are "forced" in a sense to STOP and look around at reality. Specifically psychedelic drugs the experience for me was very expansive to my perspective, I experienced new ways of looking at reality and seeing more "outside of the box". After a one or 2 years of doing that every so often and gaining interest in eastern philosophy which was illuminating me like no other information had. Also eastern philosophy was a main reason for me to develop foundation of introspection and meditative practice, psychedelic drugs lost there power and became a hindrance in experiencing unadulterated deepening of realization. The experience of psychedelic drugs and the philosophy of Tao, Buddhism and Hinduism all meshed very well and fit phenomenally.

With a good foundation of who you are and what you want psychedelics can help to a certain extent in my belief, but are ultimately are a crutch. The experience may be enlightening, but it ends, and with it information is lost.


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Re: Something I read about drugs in the Pub [Re: freddurgan]
    #7528092 - 10/17/07 02:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What lack of identity? You're freddurgan and have a consistent style to your posting.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Something I read about drugs in the Pub [Re: Icelander]
    #7528166 - 10/17/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i think it depends on the drugs you do. i was 14 when i snorted speed for the first time then a few months later i started smoking pot. and i think its given me the ability to help find myself, and look around at other people, and capitalis of sorts on my individuality


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Re: Something I read about drugs in the Pub [Re: PsychedelicPhish]
    #7528703 - 10/17/07 05:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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"I think it means that people who didn't have an opinion to begin with tried to find one using drugs. This cannot work.




Is it possible to not have an opinion?  I've always had strong opinions, they ended up crushing me because I didn't have the courage to express them.  I told myself that all my barriers needed to fall down!  Latching onto somebody who had no problem expressing themselves led me into a lot of weed and a pile of rubble where those walls once stood... :crazy:

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But if you have and opinion and a solid foundation of who you are and what you want then and only then can it help open your mind to the path you have already chosen."




...then I was free to create my own foundation.  This statement is truth. :sun:


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