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Police scrap crackdown on Vietnamese drug barons - because it's racist
    #7522574 - 10/16/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=487788&in_page_id=1770&ito=1490

A police crackdown on cannabis factories run by Vietnamese drug barons has been scrapped after officers were warned their actions might be racist.

Officers have identified a burgeoning industry which typically operates out of anonymous rented houses in the suburbs and shires.

They had planned to write to property landlords warning them to look out for suspicious tenancy applications.

But it is understood at least one force has been found to be in breach of the Race Relations Act after specifically referring to Vietnamese nationals in its letters.

The development has infuriated detectives seeking to break the stranglehold of Vietnamese barons, who control 75 per cent of UK production of cannabis.

Senior police sources confirmed there has been an "explosion" in Vietnamese-run cannabis factories over the past year.

Often the whole house will be given over to cultivation of the drug with a small living area reserved for the "gardener", often an illegal immigrant, who tends the plants.

Sometimes the gangs rent up to four properties in a row from the same landlord.

Each house can produce up to four harvests a year, worth up to £600,000.

Electricity connections are often tampered with to offer a free supply to power the lighting around the plants.

Following a recent crackdown by Scotland Yard, many of the crime syndicates have relocated out of the capital to rented properties in places such as Birmingham, Sheffield, Manchester, Nottingham, Leicester and Derby.

There are now three million cannabis users in the UK and more than 60 per cent of what they use is produced here, compared to just 11 per cent ten years ago.

According to investigators, the Vietnamese gangs have a distinct four-tier structure.

There is usually a financial backer, who owns a UK business such as a nail bar or restaurant.

There is a "consultant" who travels around the country advising people how to set up a cannabis farm.

Then there is the "gardener", and finally a seller, responsible for distribution of the drug.

The groups typically launder their vast profits in businesses, vehicles and property. Links to casinos have been uncovered in the Midlands.

Senior officers believe privately that the Government's decision to relax the laws on cannabis is the cause of the surge in home-grown production.

Chief Superintendent Jon House, of South Yorkshire Police, said the downgrading of the drug from Class B to Class C should be reversed.

He told Police Review magazine that the factories were setting up at an "alarming" rate.

"My recommendation would be that legislation should be introduced that would hold landlords accountable," he said.

• Super-strength 'skunk' warning

Home-grown "skunk", the most powerful and harmful type of cannabis, is flooding our streets, Government scientists have warned.

It accounts for three quarters of the cannabis seized, with 9,460lbs confiscated in the first half of this year.

"There is now an easy way to grow cannabis in this country because of the availability of equipment, specialist lighting and a cheap labour source through foreign nationals," said Dean Ames, head of the Forensic Science Service's drugs unit.

The potency of skunk, said to be two to three times more powerful than other forms of cannabis, was a major factor behind Gordon Brown's recent decision to review the downgrading of the drug from Class B to Class C in 2004.


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Re: Police scrap crackdown on Vietnamese drug barons - because it's racist [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7523323 - 10/16/07 01:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

"Home-grown "skunk", the most powerful and harmful type of cannabis, is flooding our streets, Government scientists have warned." WTF? those scientiest are retarded.


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Re: Police scrap crackdown on Vietnamese drug barons - because it's racist [Re: Groomies]
    #7524826 - 10/16/07 06:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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The potency of skunk, said to be two to three times more powerful than other forms of cannabis, was a major factor behind Gordon Brown's recent decision to review the downgrading of the drug from Class B to Class C in 2004.




It's so powerful just one hit makes heroin look like fucking piss weak ginger beer. It gives you the strengh of twenty five god hating bears, and makes white women dance with coloured folk and their jazz music.

Now, daily bollocks aside, too fucking true this is racist. It's racist against every single pot smoker across the UK.


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Re: Police scrap crackdown on Vietnamese drug barons - because it's racist [Re: Groomies]
    #7525046 - 10/16/07 07:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Groomies said:
"Home-grown "skunk", the most powerful and harmful type of cannabis, is flooding our streets, Government scientists have warned."  WTF? those scientiest are retarded.




It's the UK. There, skunky weed makes you kill people. :smirk:


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Re: Police scrap crackdown on Vietnamese drug barons - because it's racist [Re: Le_Canard]
    #7525661 - 10/16/07 09:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It's like saying the U.S. airports screening people of Arab descent is racist. It's not.

It just so happens that the members of a particularly violent terrorist group happen to be Arab.

If you already know what you're looking for, why pretend that that information is completely invalid? It's like saying every police officer who has arrested someone on the grounds that they fit the description of "a young, black male" who was seen committing a crime is racist.

If an eyewitness saw a young, black male perpetrate the crime, why would the cops waste time picking up an old, white guy?

Not to say our law enforcement and government agencies have never gone to extreme cases of racist action, ala Rodney King, or Japanese internment, or even everyday racial profiling without probable cause,
but in cases where an organized group is known to be of a certain race, I don't see the problem.

It's like checking out someone wearing all red in a known gang area. It's a safeguard. There's no guarantee he's a banger, but if he is, you've just actually done something useful, and you've wasted less effort than you would pretending that you need to check every single person on the grounds of being politically correct.


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Re: Police scrap crackdown on Vietnamese drug barons - because it's racist [Re: Skeeblix]
    #7527340 - 10/17/07 11:33 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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It's like saying the U.S. airports screening people of Arab descent is racist. It's not.





Targeting particular groups leads to structural racism.

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It just so happens that the members of a particularly violent terrorist group happen to be Arab.





Yep, but how can you identify them without any proof?

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If you already know what you're looking for, why pretend that that information is completely invalid? It's like saying every police officer who has arrested someone on the grounds that they fit the description of "a young, black male" who was seen committing a crime is racist.

If an eyewitness saw a young, black male perpetrate the crime, why would the cops waste time picking up an old, white guy?





If you have PROOF that somebody is committing a crime, then arresting them can't be considered racial profiling. It's considered being a good police officer.

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...in cases where an organized group is known to be of a certain race, I don't see the problem.

It's like checking out someone wearing all red in a known gang area. It's a safeguard. There's no guarantee he's a banger, but if he is, you've just actually done something useful, and you've wasted less effort than you would pretending that you need to check every single person on the grounds of being politically correct.




Terrorist groups ARE a group of people known to perpetuate certain crimes - like some gangs - but UNLIKE gangs, they don't have any distinct marks that let you easily identify them.

How would you identify a terrorist or an Arab? Would you go by name? Do you go by where they are from or were born? Their permanent country? Color hair? Size of nose? Realize that race doesn't exist. Race is a concept made up by us. There are more diversities within a race than there are between them. Terrorists will just begin to change or recruit people who don't fit the mold that will be checked for.

Security: Anyone with a big nose = check more thoroughly
Terrorists: Increase funds for nose jobs

Security: Anyone wearing a jilbab, kurta, hijab, turban, etc = check more thoroughly
Terrorists: Since we're fighting infidels, our Gods have given us permission to dress Westernized. Hijabs out, miniskirts in! Let's get Gap gift cards!

This system wouldn't even focus on other groups that commit racism.

This all goes back to the Nazis and US' use of Eugenics to perpetuate differences among people and implement structural racism. It's a step backwards. It's like making drugs illegal. It sounds nice in theory, but it doesn't work in practice.


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Re: Police scrap crackdown on Vietnamese drug barons - because it's racist [Re: Quake3]
    #7527608 - 10/17/07 12:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

> It's like saying the U.S. airports screening people of Arab descent is racist. It's not.

"Officer, why are you searching me?" "Because you have brown skin. Put your hands behind your back."

> It just so happens that the members of a particularly violent terrorist group happen to be Arab.

It just so happens that the CIA has been giving large sums of cash to the leader of that terrorist group for 20 years. Arabs have nothing to gain by blowing up things in the US, which is why they only do it when paid to do it.

> If you already know what you're looking for, why pretend that that information is completely invalid?

White people use more illegal drugs than members of any other race. Would you mind if you were pulled over and searched for being white?

> It's like saying every police officer who has arrested someone on the grounds that they fit the description of "a young, black male" who was seen committing a crime is racist.

No, its not like that at all.

> If an eyewitness saw a young, black male perpetrate the crime, why would the cops waste time picking up an old, white guy?

Everyone knows that white guys do drugs.

> but in cases where an organized group is known to be of a certain race, I don't see the problem.

The problem is that 99.9% of the members of the race have nothing to do with the criminal group.

> It's like checking out someone wearing all red in a known gang area. It's a safeguard.

If some cop tried to search me because of what I was wearing, he and his supervisor would not hear the end of it. It is well known that police officers use drugs at a higher rate than the general population, partly because they are always in contact with drugs and partly because they are often unsupervised for long periods of time. Maybe we should search everyone wearing a uniform?

> There's no guarantee he's a banger, but if he is, you've just actually done something useful

Yes, useful, you've now got one less person wearing red clothes in public. Sounds like a great use of tax dollars.

I hope they go after the fuckers who wear old navy next. Don't even get me started on those lowlife scumbags who wear grey jogging pants everywhere.


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Re: Police scrap crackdown on Vietnamese drug barons - because it's racist [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7527869 - 10/17/07 01:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

"...in the suburbs and shires."

I couldn't help but imagine a bunch of hobbits maintaining a grow operation.


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Re: Police scrap crackdown on Vietnamese drug barons - because it's racist [Re: Kamin]
    #7527902 - 10/17/07 02:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Kamin said:
"...in the suburbs and shires."

I couldn't help but imagine a bunch of hobbits maintaining a grow operation.




And in the grove, I bought my skunk* from a hobbit.

*mango. It was tasty.


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