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Cephalic
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Submersible heater question (cord in water?)
#7527852 - 10/17/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I really don't want to drill a hole through my tub to get the heater in, is it alright to submerge the entire thing (cord, dial, and all), or would that pose a serious hazard?
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: Cephalic]
#7527858 - 10/17/07 01:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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what type of heater??
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: Slimz]
#7527861 - 10/17/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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im pretty sure all heaters can be fully submerged.
my problem is always getting the suction cups to stick for more than a few hours at a time./
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: Cephalic]
#7527865 - 10/17/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just bought a submersible heater. It had in the instructions stating it was totally submersible. If it has a sealed rubber cap on the dial and cord it should be completely submersible.
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Cephalic
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: resptodd]
#7527873 - 10/17/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It has two rubber caps (on either side), and a dial. It's a 100W aquarium heater from Petland discounts, looks very heavy duty, not poor quality.
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: Cephalic]
#7527876 - 10/17/07 01:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Should be fine.. the word "Submersible" means you can "Submerse" It in the water... like a "Sub"-Marine
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: Slimz]
#7527883 - 10/17/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Slimz said: Should be fine.. the word "Submersible" means you can "Submerse" It in the water... like a "Sub"-Marine
Well... that part was obvious, I just didn't think it would be safe to submerge the power cord with it. From the image on the back, if you were using it in a regular aquarium, it shows to have it standing up with the cord out of the water.
Thanks for the advice
Edited by Cephalic (10/17/07 01:55 PM)
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: Cephalic]
#7527894 - 10/17/07 01:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: Slimz]
#7527936 - 10/17/07 02:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: Cephalic]
#7527961 - 10/17/07 02:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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thats FULLY submersable... so you can stuck the cord under water.. thats kinda like the ones I use (only it looks a little different)
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: Cephalic]
#7527999 - 10/17/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Cephalic said:
I really don't want to drill a hole through my tub to get the heater in, is it alright to submerge the entire thing (cord, dial, and all), or would that pose a serious hazard?
yes...
as long as it says it's fully submersible.
I've used Tronic heaters in the past...

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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: Roadkill]
#7528168 - 10/17/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Use some hot glue to get it stuck to the bottom if you have problems with getting it to stay put.
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: Funkatron9000]
#7528191 - 10/17/07 03:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Any cord could technically be submerged as long as it didn't have any holes in the insulation
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: Funkatron9000]
#7528539 - 10/17/07 04:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Funkatron9000 said: Use some hot glue to get it stuck to the bottom if you have problems with getting it to stay put.
i would have thought that the hot glue would just rewarm and seperate..but if not then hell ya!
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7528948 - 10/17/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I always take a lot of shit for this, but I say skip the little heaters, and just keep that room at 78-80, and you will be fine.
When using a household furnace in the fall and winter, this is so easily accomplished with little effort.
There are many safe, and efficient space heaters that can give you that extra 10 degree 24/7.
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7529263 - 10/17/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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futurewolf42o said: im pretty sure all heaters can be fully submerged.
my problem is always getting the suction cups to stick for more than a few hours at a time./
I put the heater were I wanted it then removed the heater.I then siliconed the top of the suction cups and all around the suction cup.Let it cure over night. Haven't had a problem since.
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: nw_shroomy]
#7529316 - 10/17/07 09:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
nw_shroomy said:
Quote:
futurewolf42o said: im pretty sure all heaters can be fully submerged.
my problem is always getting the suction cups to stick for more than a few hours at a time./
I put the heater were I wanted it then removed the heater.I then siliconed the top of the suction cups and all around the suction cup.Let it cure over night. Haven't had a problem since.
very nice.
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7529763 - 10/18/07 12:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Submersible heater = fine to stick fully under water (in fact they usually have a "minimum water level" line right at the top.) They're made to be under water at all times, and the cord is fine with that, as long as there are no breaks in the rubbery insulation. Using it in an incubator, tub-in-a-tub or oitherwise, is not much different from putting it in a fish tank.
Space heaters in the room or using furnace heat should be fine also, but that requires a lot more heat, meaning a lot more expense. It is more effecient to use more localized heat, like a fish tank heater, rather than heating an entire room. Natural gas heating is expensive around here because it gets pretty cold, so I keep my house around 68F in the winter. Even a space heater would take a lot more energy to heat say a 12' x 12' x 8' room than would an aquarium heater in a 10-20 gallon box in a closet or something.
There are many ways to skin that cat, but some are more effecient than others. You could use the exhaust from a constantly-idling car to heat your entire dwelling, scrubbing the exhaust with some sort of CO and CO2 filters, just to keep the temp up to shroom-favorable temps, but it wouldn't be very effecient. Heat only the space you need to be warm, and you'll save money.
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: nw_shroomy]
#7529803 - 10/18/07 01:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i just lay a pyrex baking dish into the bottom and stick the suction cups to that. works great and helps distribute heat more evenly and avoids hot spots on the plastic tubs.
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: cpw1971]
#10390676 - 05/24/09 11:56 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I was wondering the same about my heater.
I have this one Hagen Elite 50w
They say it's submersible but I see a limit line
Hope I got a good one
Thanks in advance for the answer
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Re: Submersible heater question (cord in water?) [Re: MadSeason]
#10390804 - 05/24/09 12:19 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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The limit line your speaking of is probably a minimum water line.. But, check your manual it should say in there..
the review at the link you posted was pretty funny.
PS: WOW i just noticed how old this thread was
Edited by cyb3rtr0n (05/24/09 12:21 PM)
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