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OfflineSoverntear
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Lsd why so rare?
    #7526991 - 10/17/07 09:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

So recently i have been thinking. why is it so rare? the chemical is unstable to make yes, but any chemist who can make MDMA surely has the skills to make LSD. also whats with the recent onslaught of shit lsd (well here in toronto anyways) has anyone else noticed shitty acid floating aorund?


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Soverntear]
    #7527013 - 10/17/07 09:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You just need to know the right people.


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Individual]
    #7527017 - 10/17/07 09:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

that is what im always hearing. ive found GREAT lsd twice since beaing in toronto but it always happens im at a rave and someone just sits down next to me and asks if i do lsd


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Soverntear]
    #7527037 - 10/17/07 09:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah its all about who you know or bumping into that random person


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: thedudenj]
    #7527044 - 10/17/07 09:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

damn secrate societys of great lsd having people why hath you forsaken my consumption?


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: thedudenj]
    #7527048 - 10/17/07 09:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Seems like its popping up everywhere to me. Used to never be here, now there are sources everywhere. Thought it was just because i was getting older, but school kids seem to know where to get it. I think acid is making a comeback


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Ogla]
    #7527051 - 10/17/07 09:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well the main drugs kids are doing (E and K) are getting boring to them so people are making lsd come back. just theres a shit tonne of crappy lsd floating around


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Soverntear]
    #7527096 - 10/17/07 10:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

MDMA is in much higher demand these days than LSD. LSD has been slowly making a comeback, though. Not everyone wants LSD. :shrug:


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Robo]
    #7527105 - 10/17/07 10:16 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

good call, but (correct me if im wrong) wouldn't lad cost less to make?


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Soverntear]
    #7527107 - 10/17/07 10:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Soverntear said:
damn secrate societys of great lsd having people why hath you forsaken my consumption?




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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Soverntear]
    #7527116 - 10/17/07 10:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Don't know about that, but the amount of doses from a batch of LSD compared to a batch of MDMA is a lot since LSD is orally active in ug's. More money made.


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Robo]
    #7527123 - 10/17/07 10:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ug's?


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Soverntear]
    #7527129 - 10/17/07 10:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ug = micrograms = 1/1000000 of a gram


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Robo]
    #7527133 - 10/17/07 10:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ahhh ic ic, so therefor if more money could be made and sooo many people are searching for it....


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Soverntear]
    #7527146 - 10/17/07 10:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Soverntear said:
sooo many people are searching for it....



People are searching for it, true. But, there are more people out there searching for marijuana and stuff like prescription pills. Some people don't mess with psychedelics that often, they may find it intimidating/frightening (I'd say that's a fairly good portion of your standard drug using population) And that's good because these substances need to be feared and treated with respect.


Edited by Adagio (10/17/07 10:30 AM)


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Robo]
    #7527149 - 10/17/07 10:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's not everyone's cup of tea :shrug:


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Robo]
    #7527155 - 10/17/07 10:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

oh defently more people looking for pot and pills. and ive seen some fucking stupid acts of taking psys. everytime before i dose that scence of fear knowing what im getting my mind in to is there. also here in toironto lsd is in huge demand thats why im saying soo many people are searching for it


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Soverntear]
    #7527162 - 10/17/07 10:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

you know that if those people took a hit of acid, they'd start saying Fuck the Pills! Acid is the shit. Usually Pill heads are Ganster and thats not the LSD style


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Ogla]
    #7527203 - 10/17/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah lsd is defently for a certin type or at least best suited for


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Soverntear]
    #7527260 - 10/17/07 11:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

do not worry

lsd is flooding the markets and will only continue to do so for the next good while


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: demiu5]
    #7527329 - 10/17/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i hope this is true, and hopfully foxy will come back too


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: demiu5]
    #7527854 - 10/17/07 01:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Most of my friends that take MDMA and coke are starting to realize that the real fun is in psychedelics.


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Soverntear]
    #7528110 - 10/17/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The precursors for the easy LSD synth are hard to get and a total synthesis from all the basic components is long and tedious. Not everyone who makes/sells drugs is willing to spend the time and effort on something with such a low profit margin.


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Acyl]
    #7528133 - 10/17/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

=( that's sad.
Acid is very hard to find, and it's a real shame.
Half of the time when you do find a link, it isn't even a) real acid, or b) quality.
People WILL realize one day that coke and shit aren't nearly as good as psychedelics. The don't even realize what they're missing.


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: chemical burn]
    #7528198 - 10/17/07 03:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I wish i could find some LSD, I live south of montreal right next to the vermont border and no one around here has ever even seen LSD, I recently talked to this guy about getting a sheet he said he could find some so I told him to come back to me with a price, I also have connections in Toronto so maybe ill try there.


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Acyl]
    #7528219 - 10/17/07 03:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Not everyone who makes/sells drugs is willing to spend the time and effort on something with such a low profit margin.



Is it that low of a profit, though? If you synthesized a gram of LSD, laid at 100ug a hit, that would be 10,000 hits of LSD times however much you would sell 1 hit for, say 5 dollars. That would be 50,000 dollars for the chemist himself minus the costs of the equipment and chemicals/precursors.I understand the precursors might be difficult to obtain, but is the synthesis itself so expensive that you couldn't make profit from a $50,000 worth yield?


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Robo]
    #7528276 - 10/17/07 03:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I suppose I should have mentioned the demand also, its easier to find meth heads than acid heads.


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Acyl]
    #7528283 - 10/17/07 03:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

True.


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: demiu5]
    #7528520 - 10/17/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I used to never be able to find LSD, but now i can get it at basically a steady flow =]. I think it IS making a comeback. Thank God.


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Dagnus]
    #7528553 - 10/17/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Expect numerous PMs


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Ogla]
    #7528561 - 10/17/07 05:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

this might be why its hard to find

lsd doesnt seem like one of those supply and demand drugs

its out there and its first come first serve

if its more popular itll be bought off quickly

i for one am glad that lsd is getting popular

id rather see a bunch of twisted freaks over a bunch of e and k fiends any day


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Soverntear]
    #7528781 - 10/17/07 06:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Soverntear said:
So recently i have been thinking. why is it so rare? the chemical is unstable to make yes, but any chemist who can make MDMA surely has the skills to make LSD.




Actually LSD is much more difficult to synthesize and involves even more rare and restricted materials. The chemical process is more complex than MDMA.


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: demiu5]
    #7528803 - 10/17/07 06:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Get caught selling LSD and you can go to jail for life.


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Serdal]
    #7528842 - 10/17/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know if the man slaughter for a hit of acid is true. A friend of mine said he got an LSD charge when he got caught with acid on candy. Dose anyone know the laws reguarding?


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Serdal]
    #7529237 - 10/17/07 08:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Get caught selling LSD and you can go to jail for life.



Not necessarily. Perhaps for a mass manufacture and distribution charge you might get a very long sentence, but you wouldn't get thrown in the slammer that long for just small-time selling.


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Robo]
    #7529354 - 10/17/07 09:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

there seems to be a lot of misinformation about sentencing for drugs. i know ive heard several times about how getting caught with a mdma is manslaughter. dont believe the hype is all i have to say about that.


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: fuckusernames]
    #7529361 - 10/17/07 09:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

but as far as why so rare. im going to agree that its the fact that the synthesis is a fair bit more difficult than your average mdma or meth synthesis. i still have yet to acquire this elusive chemical. im hoping ill meet some good samaritan someday that can help my psychedelic travels.


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: fuckusernames]
    #7530263 - 10/18/07 06:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

in canada LSD sale only warrents a max of 10 years


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: Soverntear]
    #7530463 - 10/18/07 08:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well i found this..

"Within hours of each other last week, the Governors of California and Nevada signed bills imposing fines of as much as $1,000 and sentences of up to one year behind bars for possession of the hallucinogenic drug LSD."

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,941998,00.html


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Re: Lsd why so rare? [Re: demiu5]
    #7530568 - 10/18/07 09:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah it was really hard to find around here the last several years (only crappy acid) but a FOAF has like 4 different types right now its really coming back strong, at least in Oregon.


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