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Jaymes
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PNW A. Muscaria ID
#7526238 - 10/17/07 12:19 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Since my other thread seems dead and I still need to be 200% sure about this, I'm making a new one with "final" pictures showing the possible concentric rings and such.
I recently found another batch of easily over 100(grown and popping up), so it'd be pretty cool if it was the real deal.




The wart's impression on this cap looks odd.



One piece of the load.
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jet li
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Re: PNW A. Muscaria ID [Re: Jaymes]
#7526252 - 10/17/07 12:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm pretty damn sure those are all "Fly Agaric".
Amanita muscaria var. muscaria or Amanita muscaria var. formosa
the orangish looking one could be either. I'm pretty sure var. formosa is a little more yellow, and the red just kinda fades with age in var. muscaria.
I'm almost certain that muscaria is the only red species of amanita in North America, but I'm not 100% on that.
I see alot of those every year. I don't mess with those things. They take too long to prepare, and don't give a very good feeling, in my opinion. Just kinda like racey and sweaty.
It's definitly one mushroom I would prepare and eat, if I was about to freeze to death, though.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: PNW A. Muscaria ID [Re: Jaymes]
#7526257 - 10/17/07 12:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its Amanita muscaria.
Make sure you look for the concentric rings on the volva. I can see them in most of your photos.
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Jaymes
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What do you mean by they take too long to prepare. As in when you cook them?
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Alan Rockefeller
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> I'm pretty damn sure those are all "Fly Agaric".
I agree.
> Amanita muscaria var. muscaria > or > Amanita muscaria var. formosa
Wrong. : )
Amanita muscaria var. muscaria grows in central and northern Alaska and northern Canada, as well as Siberia, Austrailia, New Zealand and South America.
Red muscaria's found in the continental US are Amanita muscaria subsp. flavivolvata (Singer).
> the orangish looking one could be either. I'm pretty sure var. formosa is a little more yellow, and the red just kinda fades with age in var. muscaria.
Often the orange ones are genetically the same as the red ones, but one of the genes doesn't get activated all the time causing an orange color.
Source: Rod Tulloss, pers comm.
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jet li
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Re: PNW A. Muscaria ID [Re: Jaymes]
#7526297 - 10/17/07 12:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah, you bake them really slowly and baste them, with their own fluids. I did it once, and felt like a damn gramma with my mits and spoons and all that woman stuff hangin off me. Afterward, I went and fondeled my vagina and ate icecream to a good episode of "Friends".
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Jaymes
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Re: PNW A. Muscaria ID [Re: jet li]
#7526330 - 10/17/07 12:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hahaha.
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Re: PNW A. Muscaria ID [Re: Jaymes]
#7527577 - 10/17/07 12:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, thats them. There are so many of thoes things around Seattle right now. Too bad they are kind of crappy. I agree with a previous replyer that the work that goes into preparing them isn't worth the effect..
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Jaymes
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Re: PNW A. Muscaria ID [Re: b3jamboree]
#7529693 - 10/18/07 12:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Really? I've read a few "articles" stating that you get a very intense hallucination from them.
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Re: PNW A. Muscaria ID [Re: jet li]
#7530001 - 10/18/07 03:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i read that method [from a usenet archive] years and years back on erowid and have used it but have found over the last few years that air or sun drying most of the water from then baking them to dryness is effective and less messy [provided it's dry enough inside or sunny enough outside that they don't rot of course].
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Re: PNW A. Muscaria ID [Re: canid]
#7531069 - 10/18/07 12:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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omfg i wish i could have a find like that im going to the PNW
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Re: PNW A. Muscaria ID [Re: thedudenj]
#7531110 - 10/18/07 12:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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All I got was a lethargic and euphoric feeling, not really noticable. No hallucinations or anything like that.. I was talking to this guy that would eat ones as big as his head and feel the same thing.
Anyone here actually tripped on one? I always thought they were a very intense ride until I tried it and barely anything happened lol
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Re: PNW A. Muscaria ID [Re: thedudenj]
#7531117 - 10/18/07 12:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I highly recommend that you smoke some weed if eating Fly Agaric...helps to counteract the intense nausea and saliva that happens during the build up. And the buzz can be very intense...I actually enjoy it more that most other mushrooms, but the build-up is hard to get through, the taste of the tea is horrible, and that delusional state as you come down is pretty strange. Not a recreational drug, outside of the two hours where you're peaking and enjoying yourself. Slight hallucinations, but more of a body buzz, with waves of intoxication flowing through you. And it seems that the larger and older the cap, the more chance you'll puke it up before tripping.
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Jaymes
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Yeah, I'm definitely not going to try them. lol. Doesn't seem worth it like people are saying.
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Re: PNW A. Muscaria ID [Re: Jaymes]
#7531366 - 10/18/07 02:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quite beautiful mushrooms.
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Jaymes
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Yeah they are, my favorite to snap pics of.
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