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OfflinePhishe
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I want to try mescaline
    #7525913 - 10/16/07 10:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I feel like it's a missing chapter of my life... :hippie:


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Phishe]
    #7525917 - 10/16/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What you need brother? You mean like pure powder?


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Phishe]
    #7525918 - 10/16/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

order some cactus, drrrr


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Teragon]
    #7525931 - 10/16/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I've wanted to for so long now, but it just seems like a lot of work. I do want to try some pure mescaline. I wish it was as common as LSD.

I would rather buy some cuttings from a store than online but I don't know exactly where would have san pedro or peruvian torch.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Phishe]
    #7525992 - 10/16/07 11:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Just ordered 42" of san pedro :smile:.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Phishe]
    #7526019 - 10/16/07 11:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's easy as pie and great stuff.  First go to a respected website, get about a foot and a half or so of some san pedro, and then do one of the many extraction methods available, I know for a fact the everclear one works awesome. :thumbup:


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Riboflavin]
    #7526029 - 10/16/07 11:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Could you perrty please point me in the direction of the everclear tek?


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7526035 - 10/16/07 11:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

hold up I know brewmaster posted it, will have in a sec.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Riboflavin]
    #7526037 - 10/16/07 11:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Could you perrty please point me in the direction of the everclear tek?


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Phishe]
    #7526041 - 10/16/07 11:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

mesc is the bomb yo! I highly recomend it!!!


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: fliped]
    #7526063 - 10/16/07 11:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

from brewmaster:

"alcohol is the way to go! but my friend usually has to repeat that process 2 to 3 times with new everclear to pull all the goodies out. The resulting strained alcohol gets less black with each pull until its a light translucent green. Then evaporate down to desired consistency. Is that what you do? or do you only pull and strain once? seems like a lot of potential left in that cactus if you only pull once."

I didn't do any evaporating, the stuff was potent enough as is. And yes, I'm sure there is plenty of mescaline still in that muck in the jar, I'm just all out of everclear. I'm in VA where, unfortunately, you can't buy it; it'll be sitting under my kitchen sink 'till next time I go to Asheville.

The "tar ball" method is a good one: downside- messy, sticks to your pan, also takes longer to kick in.

I'll probably do this with the next 6-10 oz of liquor I put in the pedro mud. But knowing the first 6 shots of black/green mescaline-laced everclear would be the most potent, we opted to just drink it straight up. It hits you a lot quicker and you get a nice alcohol buzz while you wait. Besides, green everclear seemed like a great way to dose on St. Patty's day!

Again, this isn't a "tek" and certainly not an accurate way to gage dose but when it comes to me and mescaline.... I can't enough!

I spent a lot of loot on chemicals for a mescaline extraction on 750g of dried cactus and it's been nothing but a pain in my ass. Well, that's not totally true, it's been kind of fun, but all the time I've put into siphoning, hanging around paint thinner and muriatic acid, freezing and evaporating.....I wish I would have saved the stuff. I do have 5g of (I'm assuming) very pure, white mescaline and I keep getting more from each pull but I'm fucking done with it.

This A/B extraction is a great way to extract some DMT but for Mesc., I feel it just isn't worth the time and effort.

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It basically consists of letting dried cactus powder sit in everclear for a few days, straining with a coffee filter, and reducing through evaporation or heat assisted(sp?) (like a stove) evaporation and downing a couple of shots of mescaline everclear. The important part is to be careful and keep flames away from the everclear!! It might not be the best idea to reduce the everclear using a gas stove.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Riboflavin]
    #7526072 - 10/16/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think I will just boil a shit ton down to the "tar ball" you speak of. use a sacrificial pot.

Is it worth it to use the core?


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Riboflavin]
    #7526074 - 10/16/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

here we go right here (from brewmaster):

I've been saying this a lot in the past couple weeks but just for the sake of conversation...

I let 200 grams of dried torch powder sit in a glas jar with enough everclear to saturate the material plus an additional 6 shots (roughly). Shook it once every few days unti I was going to use it; although the liquor immediately turned black and separated a few hours later. (I believe this is THE quickest and easiest way to dose cactus (not the most accurate)). I probably could have drank it as soon as it separated.

I poured the black liquor through a coffee filter, leaving the pedro mud in the original jar. This was that extra 6oz. At this point, you can water it down to accurately dose as many people as needed (per volume your working with)

In the original concentration (190 proof) it only took 2 shots of liquor to provide me with a pleasant 14 hour trip.

Best way I've found to do mescaline. No lengthy boils, no messy extractions, no evaporations- just soak and swallow.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Riboflavin]
    #7526077 - 10/16/07 11:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Eh, but I got fresh pedro.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7526085 - 10/16/07 11:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ahh, butt a piece of piss to make into powder, ya just gotta slice it and throw it in a dehydrator for 'bout 10 hours and then into a blender. Real easy.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Riboflavin]
    #7526101 - 10/16/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

How much is everclear?


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Riboflavin]
    #7526103 - 10/16/07 11:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I usually just make tea. Do a search for MJshroomer's san pedro tea tek. Its simple, take a foot of pedro per person, chop, add water, blend, boil, strain, drink w. an OJ chaser.

It doesn't taste great but its really not as bad as people make it seem, and you trip for like 14 hours. Well worth it. Mescaline is cool stuff, you can get really deep without any fear. Good for personal insights and what not. And last time me and my girlfriend did it we had ghosts flying around our darkened living room. Its the real deal.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Noviseer]
    #7526116 - 10/16/07 11:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I am going to have to boil it down quite a bit more this time then, The taste is horrid, worse than I have ever had.

Any tips on getting a smaller amount of substance without burning the material?

a friend of mine told me he smoked cactus with some natives, is this possible?


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7526124 - 10/16/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

PS phishe: Sorry if this seems like a hijack, I hope you can use some of the info from my questions.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7526132 - 10/16/07 11:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Everclear runs about 17 bucks a bottle in wisconsin. However a much cheaper method witch I haven't gotten around to trying yet is the isopropyl alchohol method, this method is much like using everclear, except when your reducing it you absoloutly(sp?) must get rid of all the alcohol because this sort of alcohol is poisonous, so you basically boil it all out and then let it dry even more for a couple of days. I personally prefer everclear because then I can relax in the a lil' alcohol buzz while I wait for the mescaline to kick in.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7526140 - 10/16/07 11:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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DuNeRaVeR said:
I am going to have to boil it down quite a bit more this time then, The taste is horrid, worse than I have ever had.

Any tips on getting a smaller amount of substance without burning the material?

a friend of mine told me he smoked cactus with some natives, is this possible?




once it gets down to a glass or so (15-20oz of fluid) per dose, it'll start to get thick. transfer it into a double boiler (a pot inside another pot of boiling water) and double boil it down to a shot or two per dose.

it takes a while, but it's worth it


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Teragon]
    #7526146 - 10/16/07 11:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

AH HA!, Thank you wise sir.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Riboflavin]
    #7526147 - 10/16/07 11:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I would definitely just cut it into slices, cut out the middle, crush the outside into a nice gooey consistency and simmer it with enough water to cover it and two inches above. I add water after a bit. And don't be impatient simmer for a good 4-5 hours. Then drain into container. I refrigerate overnight and take on an empty stomach. I use 2 feet. Then there is no question that I wont have a good time I have used 3 feet before and it was a little intense but nothing out of hand. I did throw up and feel sick but after that it was all smooth sailing.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7526157 - 10/16/07 11:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Did you puke on 2 or 3 feet?

for dose purposes, how much do you weigh?


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7526158 - 10/16/07 11:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

how is the body high at 2-3 feet? Thats the one downside for me, I get this pheny neck cramp and back aches and weirdness like that, I don't really like how it can make my body tense up so much. Thats what has kept me from going over like 18 inches. The visuals and mental trip I absolutely love, but I don't want to get too deep into that overstimulated muscle cramp high


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Noviseer]
    #7526172 - 10/16/07 11:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I weigh about 180 and its pretty hard to deal with at 3 feet. Not only the nausea but the jittery nerves but if you have taken peyote before you will understand. Mescaline from cacti never lets you by easy but after it is worth it ten fold. I took 2.5 feet just a few days ago it was awesome I posted about it on this site. Its just hard getting past the nausea.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7526176 - 10/16/07 11:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe I will go 1.5 ft for my 2nd trip. My first was failed due to me not being able to chug enough and me and the girl split 18".


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7526204 - 10/17/07 12:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Chugging is definitly the hardest part.. You should try chewing up 5 peyote buttons and see if you don't puke. If your going to walk the path of the cactus your gonna pay in vomit.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7526207 - 10/17/07 12:07 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Chugging is definitly the hardest part.. You should try chewing up 5 peyote buttons and see if you don't puke. If your going to walk the path of the cactus your gonna pay in vomit.




LOL, I like to avoid it if possible.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7526236 - 10/17/07 12:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Don't get me wrong I hate it too brother.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7526241 - 10/17/07 12:19 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

mescaline tastes so disgusting



but at least at the end of the Vomit Road you reach:



which is a .gif representation of Nirvana


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7526251 - 10/17/07 12:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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mescaline tastes so disgusting



but at least at the end of the Vomit Road you reach:



which is a .gif representation of Nirvana



:stoner:

Word.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7526461 - 10/17/07 02:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Chugging is definitly the hardest part.. You should try chewing up 5 peyote buttons and see if you don't puke.  If your going to walk the path of the cactus your gonna pay in vomit.




if I boil it down to a teacup full of goo I just chug it and have only slight nausea. just sit still and watch a movie or documetaries until you start to come up after two houres or so. I have a pretty strong stomach btw.

man, I feel like having a trip again!:D


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: stefan]
    #7526464 - 10/17/07 02:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I wish I had a stomach like that.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7526482 - 10/17/07 02:07 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

if i slice up the cutting i am gonna get sometime and just leave it to dry in front of a fan or with some salt will that be bad?


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: pong]
    #7526640 - 10/17/07 04:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

IME you need a bit more dried pedro if you can dry it without rotting it go for it.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7526673 - 10/17/07 05:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

if i put it in a bucket full of calcum carbonate it should dry quite fast right?


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: pong]
    #7526676 - 10/17/07 05:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I've never used it before.. sorry. If I do dry I use a cookie sheet at 200 degrees. I hope it helps.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7526682 - 10/17/07 05:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

200 degrees does not destroy the mescaline?


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: pong]
    #7526697 - 10/17/07 05:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Not in my experience.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7526700 - 10/17/07 05:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

and how long does it take you to dry these slices of cactus?


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: pong]
    #7526950 - 10/17/07 08:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Who would've thought that the Sacred Cactus is a Sacred Internet Hit?


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7527036 - 10/17/07 09:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i want to try mescaline as well. i've heard a low dose can be a rather mellow, enjoyable psychedelic experience. and i'm all about the mellow.

this thread reminded me of a dream i had last night though. i didn't remember the dream... but then i saw this and it gave me a short flashback to at least part of it. someone had sent me a small cactus in the mail or something.. i remember pulling it out of the box and thinking "see? i knew it'd be fine" and then putting it on the window sill. for a split second as i was remembering the dream, it almost seemed like it had actually happened, before i realized, to my disappointment, that it was only a dream.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #7527150 - 10/17/07 10:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

are we allowed to post legitimate sites where we could purchase cacti? if not, would anyone like to PM me?


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #7527207 - 10/17/07 10:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Bring on the Legit Cactus Sites! PM me too! This is of course merely to grow them, and worship them for the non-chemical producing entity they are. They don't produce ANY chemicals. They don't.:-)


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: pong]
    #7529901 - 10/18/07 01:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

depends on the size of the slices you make just dry it to the point where it will break when you bend it.


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Re: I want to try mescaline [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7530050 - 10/18/07 04:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, post some links!


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