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santaclaws
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post 1st flush monotub; over 100 pins aborted or dormant?
#7524956 - 10/16/07 07:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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some stranger sent me this in an email:
greetings. its been awhile since ive posted on here. my adventures in mycology have been going quite well. thanks for all your help! however i have encountered a problem. this is a monotub colonized with cubensis (creeper strain). the substrate is composed of wbs spawned to composted manure, wheat straw, and vermiculite (via filter patch bag). the casing material is composed of my personal interpretation of ryche hawks 50/50+. it includes peat moss, vermiculite, crushed oyster shell, and a dash of hydrated lime. after the bottom tub was cased, it was incubated in the dark at around 85 degrees for about a week. patching was not necessary, for the rhizomorphs had very evenly poked their little white fingers evenly through the casing. i decided it was time to initiate pinning. the top tub was misted and attached, and i put the unit in my closet, which is two folding doors that open at the middle and i never close. the temperature in my room ranges from 73 to 78, usually more around 75. i thought that the light from the incandescent bulb would be enough to cause the mycelia to begin forming primordia, but after about 4 days i still didnt see anything. i decided to move the unit to the other side of my room under a window, which is normally completely lightproofed but i removed during the day with the exception of a blind.. well by this time, the casing layer was looking far more colonized than i had originally wanted it. im thinking that the time in the closet without adequate light allowed it to keep colonizing at a pretty fast rate. looks damn near overlay, and im afraid if i mist it, it will cause overlay. anyways the window got things going, and in about 3 days i started to see little bright white dots everywhere! i was very excited. a couple days later the entire casing was covered in pins. well over 100. a few of them started to get bigger. about 15 mature perfect specimens were harvested about a week later, after the most mature had started dropping spores and a spore print was made (of course). the rest of the pins? well they just kinda laid there and got fuzzy. there were a few specimens that i knew for fact were aborts, and they were removed. i had read about dormant pins before, and not to disturb them that they would continue on growing in another flush. so i took my measely 15 caps, misted the top tub again and reattached it. i avoided patching of the holes for the moment because i wasnt sure what was going on. well a few days later i took a look and noticed that about 20 of the larger remaining items that i assumed were dormant pins were turning black. i didnt want them to rot so i removed them. a couple more days went by and now im here. in the pictures, you can see a few more aborts i missed, but there are lots of other objects around them that under the fuzzy white cover appear to still be orange. if i look closely i think i can see new bright white dots of primordia forming all over the casing. what the heck is going on??





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Re: post 1st flush monotub; over 100 pins aborted or dormant? [Re: santaclaws]
#7525318 - 10/16/07 08:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks normal to me. Often, primordia for the first two or three flushes are set at the time of first flush. Those with the black heads are likely going to abort, but there's no need to pick them. They won't rot and cause problems during the time the rest are growing. RR
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Re: post 1st flush monotub; over 100 pins aborted or dormant? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7525555 - 10/16/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i sure hope its normal. it appears that the white fuzzy covering forming over the remaining pins is getting progressively thicker. is this some sort of defense mechanism enabled to protect the pins until its their time to shine? what is your opinion on the level of casing colonization? the casing was very well moisturized at the time of incubation, but after the first few fruits and the time spent with the lid off, it has gotten slightly drier and i do not want this to effect any upcoming flushes. is it too late to rehydrate, and if not what is the best way of going about that? by the way thanks for the help.
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Re: post 1st flush monotub; over 100 pins aborted or dormant? [Re: santaclaws]
#7526712 - 10/17/07 05:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're supposed to be misting a few times daily to replace what evaporates. RR
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Re: post 1st flush monotub; over 100 pins aborted or dormant? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7658427 - 11/20/07 10:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your bottom holes are too high. About 3 inches too high from what the pic shows. You want the bottom polyfill holes to be exactly at the top of the casing layer. Yours seem to be a few inches up. This may becausing co2 buildup and poor pinning.
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Re: post 1st flush monotub; over 100 pins aborted or dormant? [Re: shroomie_glen]
#7658442 - 11/20/07 10:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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looks dry and overlayed to me
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