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TripityDooDaDay
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Re: Folks that have broken through many times on both DMT & Salvia [Re: ashfiken]
#7530618 - 10/18/07 09:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cool overviews guys. So would most of you agree that the final destination of salvia travel is a jungle-like, or plant ridden environment?
No. Sometimes that's the case. Very often it's not. There are so many possible destinations with salvia. Many ime have nothing to do with plants at all. Salvia does do the plant thing well though.
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EthericOctopuss
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Re: Folks that have broken through many times on both DMT & Salvia [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
#7530806 - 10/18/07 10:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cool overviews guys. So would most of you agree that the final destination of salvia travel is a jungle-like, or plant ridden environment?
No. Sometimes that's the case. Very often it's not. There are so many possible destinations with salvia. Many ime have nothing to do with plants at all. Salvia does do the plant thing well though.
Very interesting. Could you describe some of the other types on environments it has taken you to?
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Re: Folks that have broken through many times on both DMT & Salvia [Re: EthericOctopuss]
#7530856 - 10/18/07 11:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not very well. Words don't work that way.
Some destinations seem normal except that you may be a different person. You may be in a different time. You may become an inanimate object. You may visit or become a part of a completely alien environment...
Salvia experiences have so much variance that you can't really define a "final destination".
One of the single most defining aspects of a salvia experience is the feeling of realness to whatever environment it takes you to.
No matter how strange the environment may be it usually feels genuinely real. It can make you seriously ponder the realness of ordinary everyday life upon return.
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Re: Folks that have broken through many times on both DMT & Salvia [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
#7530879 - 10/18/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Salvia breakthroughs rip me from my body and Im thrown in some strange, impossible parrelel universe. I cannot usually discern any visuals, other than some strange pattering of realities. With DMT it is more beautiful geometircs with intense colors, and a merging with the infinite... DMT is amazing.
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Re: Folks that have broken through many times on both DMT & Salvia [Re: EthericOctopuss]
#7531278 - 10/18/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Both experiences can be incredibly powerful. Trends I've noticed personally and for other people include: first, that salvia is not as "euphoric" as DMT. Second, that the nature of DMT visuals can be likened more closely to mushrooms than can salvia visuals. For instance, I'd wager more folks would describe DMT visuals as potentially "kaleidoscopic" than with salvia. (I think people are more likely to get a clearer picture of autonomous entities or creatures on DMT than salvia -- though visuals are something which you can't really predict except on the most basic level.) Third, that salvia can be a bit more somatic than DMT.
For me salvia has tended to be less pleasurable, murkier, and indeed more swamp-like than DMT. Say you're kidnapped by a witch (it happens.) She's not going to have DMT on the shelf; she's going to have salvia--in between the frog's eyes and the toadstool. Gandalf will have DMT. Really the best is to combine salvia with DMT or 5-Meo-DMT though. "Oh look at that, I'm dissolving. My essence is leaking atomic energy and blending with that of the unknown universe. Stop Dave, I'm afraid. My mind is going... I can feel it... I can feel it... Ma meeshka mow skwoz, eh......eh........"
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Re: Folks that have broken through many times on both DMT & Salvia [Re: EthericOctopuss]
#7531597 - 10/18/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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EthericOctopuss said: Cool overviews guys. So would most of you agree that the final destination of salvia travel is a jungle-like, or plant ridden environment?
A common theme seems to reoccur:Breakthroughs on...
Salvia tends to put you in touch with a female entity, which most refer to as lady salvia. She appears to sometimes offer insights and wisdom to voyagers, or sometimes scare the hell out of them.
DMT tends to put one in touch with the self-transforming machine elves. They appear to be a very kind, curious, and loving bunch. They seem to take joy in the fact that we have made the travel to their reality.
Please continue sharing your experiences fellas...
I have often realized a female presence with dmt. Usually it's a female being that is by my side..just out of view. Perhaps looking over my shoulder and giving me a tour of the show.
And sometimes those elves can be pretty sly and tricky...they may seem nice and friendly at times, but i think it's just an act!! lol
Every trip is different though...expect the unexpected.
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Re: Folks that have broken through many times on both DMT & Salvia [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
#7531878 - 10/18/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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No matter how strange the environment may be it usually feels genuinely real. It can make you seriously ponder the realness of ordinary everyday life upon return.
exactly. and in all my experience with salvia i have never come in contact with "lady salvia", i have felt many "presences" though.
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Re: Folks that have broken through many times on both DMT & Salvia [Re: maggotz]
#7532337 - 10/18/07 05:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I definetly agree that salvia is an erie murky expirience, Ive had some great expiriences with salvia, 20x every time, one time I forgot I was smoking it while smoking it another time the voices coming from the TV were talking to and/or about me, Ive gotten some minor OEVs nothing really worth mentioning and one time where I pretty much blacked out and had some crazy visions of alternate realities but I still dont think ive really had a break through, as for dmt I would love to try it but have no idea where to get it.
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Re: Folks that have broken through many times on both DMT & Salvia [Re: 2012shaman]
#7532402 - 10/18/07 06:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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as for dmt I would love to try it but have no idea where to get it.
I got mine from Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark.
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Re: Folks that have broken through many times on both DMT & Salvia [Re: Land_Crab]
#7532475 - 10/18/07 06:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Land_Crab said: Say you're kidnapped by a witch (it happens.) She's not going to have DMT on the shelf; she's going to have salvia--in between the frog's eyes and the toadstool.
man i have to completely agree with this statement
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EthericOctopuss
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Re: Folks that have broken through many times on both DMT & Salvia [Re: Land_Crab]
#7533150 - 10/18/07 09:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Land_Crab said: Both experiences can be incredibly powerful. Trends I've noticed personally and for other people include: first, that salvia is not as "euphoric" as DMT. Second, that the nature of DMT visuals can be likened more closely to mushrooms than can salvia visuals. For instance, I'd wager more folks would describe DMT visuals as potentially "kaleidoscopic" than with salvia. (I think people are more likely to get a clearer picture of autonomous entities or creatures on DMT than salvia -- though visuals are something which you can't really predict except on the most basic level.) Third, that salvia can be a bit more somatic than DMT.
For me salvia has tended to be less pleasurable, murkier, and indeed more swamp-like than DMT. Say you're kidnapped by a witch (it happens.) She's not going to have DMT on the shelf; she's going to have salvia--in between the frog's eyes and the toadstool. Gandalf will have DMT. Really the best is to combine salvia with DMT or 5-Meo-DMT though. "Oh look at that, I'm dissolving. My essence is leaking atomic energy and blending with that of the unknown universe. Stop Dave, I'm afraid. My mind is going... I can feel it... I can feel it... Ma meeshka mow skwoz, eh......eh........"
That was an awesome anology. Although I don't know if I'd have the cajones to combine the two. LOL!
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Re: Folks that have broken through many times on both DMT & Salvia [Re: EthericOctopuss]
#7533204 - 10/18/07 09:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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That was an awesome anology. Although I don't know if I'd have the cajones to combine the two. LOL!
It's not really so much more extreme as different. If you like both, try it.
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Re: Folks that have broken through many times on both DMT & Salvia [Re: EthericOctopuss]
#7533325 - 10/18/07 09:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah the intensity is definitely increased when combined, but if you can manage either by themselves you can manage them combined. the experience itself is quite different from the effects of each drug by itself. i definitely recommend it just be ready for a very unpredictable ride.
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