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The art of candy-flipping
    #7524558 - 10/16/07 06:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I may have the opportunity the next few weeks to candyflip, and I was wondering about the best way of doing it.

When do I take the acid? When do I take the E? I'd like the best experience possible, obviously. I've hippieflipped before and done mescaline and E, but never candyflipped with E and acid.

Any recommendations?


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: MOTH]
    #7524587 - 10/16/07 06:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'd say take them both at the same time if you want it to be intense as it can be. Maybe take the E a little bit after you take the acid, or find out which one will kick in first and dose according to that.

I'd take them both at the same time.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7524624 - 10/16/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I thought hippie flipping was shrooms and E


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: Fraggin]
    #7524626 - 10/16/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It is, but I'm talking about candyflipping with acid and E.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: MOTH]
    #7524644 - 10/16/07 06:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Take the E a 1/2 hour after the cid. You're more likely to reach both peaks at the same time.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: iBruiseBlue]
    #7524659 - 10/16/07 06:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, now that I have all these responses, I'll throw another question out there...

I know I shouldn't expect anything, but...any descriptors of the experience? What will happen?


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: MOTH]
    #7524743 - 10/16/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm...I'm reading Erowid trip reports right now. Very, very illuminating.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: MOTH]
    #7524757 - 10/16/07 06:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

this is just me but i would take it a little later. like 1.5 2 hours into it. i dunno tho. iv never done mdma in any copasity so i couldent tell ya. but the idea of feeling emotinaly drained on an acid come down just dosent sound appeling to me. so i would think you would want to take it a little later.
im sure both chemicals resonate of each other too


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: MOTH]
    #7524758 - 10/16/07 06:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think I'm going to try it with yoga and meditation. I've been doing yoga daily for a few months now and have been amazed at how great it makes me feel. I imagine that combined with candyflipping it would be fucking amazing. There is even a trip report of someone who tried that.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: notapillow]
    #7524773 - 10/16/07 06:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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this is just me but i would take it a little later. like 1.5 2 hours into it. i dunno tho. iv never done mdma in any copasity so i couldent tell ya. but the idea of feeling emotinaly drained on an acid come down just dosent sound appeling to me. so i would think you would want to take it a little later.
im sure both chemicals resonate of each other too




I am a little worried about any MDMA crash, that's why I was considering taking it later too. On the other hand, I love intense experiences. There is also the possibility of taking one pill in the beginning with the acid, and redosing on the E later on in the night.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: MOTH]
    #7524796 - 10/16/07 06:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ah
well your pretty damn experinced in the flipy relms oh phycho space i assume moth, so i dont think you should have anything to worry about. :trippping:
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mescaline and e? how was that?:snowman:


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: notapillow]
    #7524827 - 10/16/07 06:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Fucking wonderful/beautiful/lifechanging.  I was at a festival in Austin.  The music swept me away.  I could feel the pulse of the universe not only in my body, but I could SEE it to, all around me, and I could literally SEE the flow of energy and my place in it.  It was then I realized that it is my destiny to become an icon of wonder. (?? still figuring that out)  Very rewarding experience.  Every cell in my body was dancing, making love with itself.  It was the trip that opened the door to loving myself. 

I have no reason to think that candyflipping will be any less wonderful. :smile:


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: MOTH]
    #7524860 - 10/16/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

iv had so many opertunities to try candy/hippy fliping, let alone just how many times iv ran into e. i mean its e for godsake . my goodfreind in the bay once sayed "I dont even know how to describe ecstacy...its like the fucking safeway of drugs. big corperate."
i always loved that analogy for some resson. i dunno iv just never felt the need to feel any better ha i already do.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: MOTH]
    #7525442 - 10/16/07 08:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

my first one is coming real soon too.
I'm ever so excited. I think this is gonna be what gets me back into tripping again.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: Dreamer987]
    #7525486 - 10/16/07 09:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I like to take the E after 3-4 hours into the trip.  Sometimes longer.  I like the dimensionality to acid, and find that MDMA "flattens" the experience if I take it before the peak. Its a nice addition to the after-glow that always follows a good trip, and really allows me to probe my mind and better integrate the experience. 

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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #7526689 - 10/17/07 05:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

There are two aproaches to candy tripping. The most popular aproach is to take the acid first and the MDMA when the acid peaks or even later. Personally I don't like this because I always feel it takes something away from the acid. First the acid opens you up, then the MDMA negates that to a certain degree.

I personally prefer to take the MDMA first and the acid 1 hour later. This way the MDMA creates the perfect mindset to enter an acid trip. For me this creates the best psychedelic experiences in existance (I have tried 14 different psychedelic drugs and quite a few combinations). The trick is not to take too much MDMA, but take a solid dose of acid. For me 50 to 75 mg MDMA is enough. Followed by 2 strong blotters this is the most reliable way to create Shulgin +4 experiences for me.

The argument against taking the MDMA first is that you don't want to come down from the MDMA while still tripping on acid. For me this has never been a problem. Maybe because I take low doses of MDMA or maybe because I get quality crystal MDMA, but I never had this problem.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: donvliet]
    #7528999 - 10/17/07 07:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Great advice here. I'm bookmarking this thread. I still don't know what I'm going to do yet. I like donvliet's advice, but I'm thinking I might accidently forget about taking the acid after mdma, heh.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: MOTH]
    #7529047 - 10/17/07 07:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I really want to hippieflip but I have a strange fear of E. Its similar to the "fear" I had of drugs before I smoke weed the first time. I really dont want to fry my brain and get dumber, and I'm always worried that the MDMA is gonna be cut with Meth or something.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: g00ru]
    #7529049 - 10/17/07 07:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I like waiting for the acid to hit... and then near the end of the peak take the Roll..


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: MOTH]
    #7530024 - 10/18/07 03:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Moth, you won't forget to take the acid if you only take 50 to 75 mg of MDMA. These kinds of doses are low enough for you to still want something more. Take the acid 1 hour after dropping the MDMA and you'll be fine.

Guruu, you can get your pills tested. Then you know what's in them.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: MOTH]
    #7530085 - 10/18/07 05:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'v got 2 decent rolls, and a bunch of acid.
I'll probly eat a hit or 2, and eat the roll a few hours in. If my other tripping partner/s aren't interested i will eat the other roll towards the comedown.
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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: MOTH]
    #7530560 - 10/18/07 09:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Take the ecstasy 2-4 hours into the experience. Peaking on two things at the same time leaves you feeling like the drugs are fighting for control of your brain. It may not be pleasant.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: donvliet]
    #7632730 - 11/13/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I really want to hippieflip but I have a strange fear of E. Its similar to the "fear" I had of drugs before I smoke weed the first time. I really dont want to fry my brain and get dumber, and I'm always worried that the MDMA is gonna be cut with Meth or something.




X is often cut with meth. This is often what causes an unpleasant candyflip, too, for those who might find this thread again...

Some friends of mine had particularily meth-y X when they last candyflipped and it really fucked them up (in a bad way). Too body-speedy, sweaty, paranoid and stuff...their dicks all shrunk up (from the meth) and they were really confused (from the acid) when they had to piss and saw that....a few of them puked too...totally trolling...make sure you've got good rolls if yer gonna flip.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: azuresense]
    #7632772 - 11/13/07 09:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i thought a hippietrip (flip) was mushrooms and acid, and a candy flip was x and acid.

Either way, I wouldn't Candyflip unless I knew i had pure MDMA, not just some rolls cut with meth/heroin/cocain etc. Well... Maybe heroin based rolls cause they're very chill


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: citricacidx]
    #7634920 - 11/14/07 12:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Maybe heroin based rolls cause they're very chill





http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_info11.shtml

random side-tangent, but i hear that silly phrase so much...along with "doublestack" "triplestack"....no one wants to waste their heroin in a 10-buck roll. its all sales tactic my friend


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: azuresense]
    #7635088 - 11/14/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'd only Candyflip or hippyflip if I had pure MDMA Molly. :mushroom2:


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: azuresense]
    #7635260 - 11/14/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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azuresense said:
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Maybe heroin based rolls cause they're very chill





http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_info11.shtml

random side-tangent, but i hear that silly phrase so much...along with "doublestack" "triplestack"....no one wants to waste their heroin in a 10-buck roll. its all sales tactic my friend




sorry. I can admit when I'm wrong.

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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: citricacidx]
    #7635539 - 11/14/07 02:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Take E about an hour after acid for me.

The feeling is great cos the E gets rid of the sometimes weird bodyload of acid. If you want even better time, smoke a big bowl about 4 hours in and you will get amazing hallucinations. Peoples faces turning into others if your close in a dark area, say with a girlfriend.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: F1234K]
    #7635571 - 11/14/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Whats it called for Acid + Shrooms?

Asking for the name is kind of silly, since everyone has their own definitions for everything I realize. Thats the only combination I'd be interested in. Too afraid of E to try it.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: xile]
    #7635587 - 11/14/07 03:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I call that a Hippie Trip


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: citricacidx]
    #7635655 - 11/14/07 03:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

What do you guys call Mescaline + MDMA? Wiki says "love flip" but that's pretty lame. I always just call it cactus flipping.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: Robo]
    #7636540 - 11/14/07 06:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i ghetto flipped, which was lsa trip, and on my peak i took 2 tenths of some good molly, it was one of the best experiences of my life.

i took the molly on my peak.

usually heroin isn't in there, good link btw

and 'coke based e' isn't usually the case cuz coke is a quick drug, where mdma is a mid length drug.


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Re: The art of candy-flipping [Re: Molasses]
    #7638516 - 11/15/07 07:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Up north is where the molly's at. You say that word in the northeast n their ears perk up like wild dogs, they start shoutin out prices they can get it for...HIGH prices :undecided: but its worth it :smile:

i think cactus flipping sounds cool for mescaline/x heh

haha and ghetto flipped...i think here that means something like dxm+soma+oxy+xanax+psuedophedrine and whatever else is in mom's medicine cabinent...florida is such a loser place


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