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 Ego Death
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 Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? 
#7523872 - 10/16/07 03:39 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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The rules here are pretty strict,
WHY?
I think a secret long-term member only locations map would be excellent.
I'm willing to share mine, anyway but only with true shroomers.
Does anybody remember a website run by a guy called Mr. Pixie? It held a shroom map and list of places!
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 Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Ego Death]
#7523905 - 10/16/07 03:45 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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> The rules here are pretty strict, WHY?
For general safety, to frustrate law enforcement, and preserve patches.
> I think a secret long-term member only locations map would be excellent.
I think most long-term members have no trouble locating psilocybin mushrooms.
You might be able to get away with putting psilocybin mushroom locations in the SPOTTER database.
http://spire.umbc.edu/spotter/
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sui
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Ego Death]
#7523918 - 10/16/07 03:48 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont need a map to know where to look. 
If theres woodchips look there. It cant get more simple than that
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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: sui]
#7523961 - 10/16/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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been around the shroomery for 4.5 years and u cant figure out why!
u must have spent way to much time in the pube...
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 Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Ego Death]
#7524759 - 10/16/07 06:42 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have asked a few times before to have the "no specific locations" rule brought down. I liked it when the North Florida Shroom Guide had a locations section, but cowboy ended up getting some complaints from the farmers.. so he backed down. I'm pretty sure the same would happen if we did it here..
I have never heard of Mr. Pixie, do you have a link?
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Ego Death]
#7524774 - 10/16/07 06:45 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I feel that's private info.
I share, via pm 
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: LouiseLouise]
#7526516 - 10/17/07 02:15 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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There are definitely some spots, I wouldn't want to share, for there are SO many fucks out there that would just go there and rip out EVERYTHING they see and most likely destroy the patches you have found in the last years...
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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Fahkface]
#7526610 - 10/17/07 03:36 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have asked a few times before to have the "no specific locations" rule brought down.
u could try enforcing the rules rather than trying to change them... theres been so much shit go through this forum in the last few days, its getting beyond a joke...
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#7526612 - 10/17/07 03:44 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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although i do wish there was something of the sort in existance, refering to secret map, such a thing would doom all patches listed to being sting zones for coppers, and be destroyed quickly by those who do not respect the shrooms.
in my experience when a (edible) mushroom patch is publicly known people try to go hunt there ripping up mycellium and stomping around gathering all fungus in sight to sell for cash. i dont see why it would be any different in the magic shroom case.
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Ego Death
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: pong]
#7526734 - 10/17/07 06:07 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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The old map had 100's of locations, I don't think they would bother to have police officers watching 100's of locations 24 hours a day just to watch out for a mushroom picker.
But yeah I accept the points - spose its not a good idea - accept for people like me that can't find any despite hunting for the past 10 years...
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Ego Death]
#7526740 - 10/17/07 06:15 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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10 years and nothing at all? do you live in the desert
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: fliped]
#7526752 - 10/17/07 06:27 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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geez I'd like to hope not
even if one were in the desert certain cacti would be the next best thing to mushrooms 
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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Ego Death]
#7526757 - 10/17/07 06:34 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ego Death said:
But yeah I accept the points - spose its not a good idea - accept for people like me that can't find any despite hunting for the past 10 years...
its not supposed to be that easy!
if u cant find your own patches thats tough shit... doesnt mean people should share the patches that they probably spent alot of time and effort on finding...
wot active mushrooms are u searching for anyway?
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#7527227 - 10/17/07 10:56 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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you havent seen an active in 10 years? do you live in the desert? lol
I didnt even notice fliped said this same comment.
you must be in the desert.
go take a trip egodeath. thats how i found gyms. outside of town. cuz they havent appeared here in years.
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GGreatOne234
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 Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#7528807 - 10/17/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have asked a few times before to have the "no specific locations" rule brought down.
u could try enforcing the rules rather than trying to change them... theres been so much shit go through this forum in the last few days, its getting beyond a joke...
If it ruffles your feathers enough than you can PM me any instances that have gone missed by our moderators. There is no need to knock the happenings in this forum out in the open as you did. Our staff are all volunteers, they contribute when they find the time. For the past six something years I have spent 1-2 hours daily moderating the happenings in this forum specifically, and that is a pretty steady contribution. I find the time to help out where I can here on a regular basis. And after so many years of doing this I don't lose any sleep if there are a few little rules that I missed being broken in here. Afterall, that is why we have CureCat now, she is more into enforcing all the rules than I am. Dig?
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: GGreatOne234]
#7528841 - 10/17/07 06:31 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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i had 5 or 6 patches of cyans once, i told two people where all but one is, then the next year all i had was one patch cause they destroyed the others.
trust no one.
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GGreatOne234
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 Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: CptnGarden]
#7528852 - 10/17/07 06:36 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree, most people are complete jerks when it comes to showing them where the shrooms are exactly.
But I have learned that some people you can trust with your locations, others you cannot.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Ego Death]
#7528879 - 10/17/07 06:44 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ego Death said:
The rules here are pretty strict,
WHY?
I think a secret long-term member only locations map would be excellent.
I'm willing to share mine, anyway but only with true shroomers.
 Bad idea.
Sweet! You're willing to share locations that yielded you zero (0) mushrooms in 10 years of hunting!?!? 
I'm gonna pass. I'm not a true shroomer anyways. 
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Ego Death]
#7528890 - 10/17/07 06:47 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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As far as rules go, thats a pretty good one. Hard to imagine not finding anything in ten years if you're serious. Plenty of info here to educate you when and where to look.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: GGreatOne234]
#7530139 - 10/18/07 05:42 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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GGreatOne234 said:
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uarewotueat said:
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I have asked a few times before to have the "no specific locations" rule brought down.
u could try enforcing the rules rather than trying to change them... theres been so much shit go through this forum in the last few days, its getting beyond a joke...
If it ruffles your feathers enough than you can PM me any instances that have gone missed by our moderators. There is no need to knock the happenings in this forum out in the open as you did. Our staff are all volunteers, they contribute when they find the time. For the past six something years I have spent 1-2 hours daily moderating the happenings in this forum specifically, and that is a pretty steady contribution. I find the time to help out where I can here on a regular basis. And after so many years of doing this I don't lose any sleep if there are a few little rules that I missed being broken in here. Afterall, that is why we have CureCat now, she is more into enforcing all the rules than I am. Dig?
mmhmm
CureCat's the strongarm of the shroomery
jokes on you kitten, im wearing a helmet!
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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Kanker]
#7530684 - 10/18/07 10:07 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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If it ruffles your feathers enough than you can PM me any instances that have gone missed by our moderators.
yeah it does ruffle my feathers when half the posts that go through the forum are blatent rule breakers... i dont make the rules man, but they are there for a reason after all...
i'll PM u a list later then.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#7530924 - 10/18/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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funny you guys mentioned it, i havent seen curecat in days.
whered she go?
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canid
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#7531379 - 10/18/07 02:10 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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i don't know, bu she'd better be at the resivoir for the upcomming thingie. [edit: temporary confusion as to what day it was...]
anyway, moderating a forum like this can be hard to keep up with. that's why i had to leave, two or three times, to get a real life
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GGreatOne234
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 Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: canid]
#7531534 - 10/18/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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For the first few weeks CureCat was a mod she was very productive. I didn't have to lock any threads for a while, it was a nice break. Hopefully she is just busy with things lately and will get back soon because the forum is also very busy this time of year.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: GGreatOne234]
#7532222 - 10/18/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: jet li]
#7532328 - 10/18/07 05:43 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: GGreatOne234]
#7532359 - 10/18/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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GGreatOne234 said:
For the first few weeks CureCat was a mod she was very productive. I didn't have to lock any threads for a while, it was a nice break. Hopefully she is just busy with things lately and will get back soon because the forum is also very busy this time of year.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Kanker]
#7532798 - 10/18/07 07:41 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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funny you guys mentioned it, i havent seen curecat in days.
whered she go?
i was going to ask the same
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 Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: cactu]
#7532881 - 10/18/07 08:03 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've been searching for 2 years and I haven't found anything but 1 flush of amantias... i live in VT.. I'm frustrated I get shut down every time I ask if someone hunts in VT so I can talk to them in a pm about trying to get hints or whatever info I can but it gets shut down EVERYTIME.. so I guess if its okay with you im asking in this thread since someone else wants to argue the locations thing... pm me guys..
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: cactu]
#7532908 - 10/18/07 08:11 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Curecats been busy thats all!
SHES NOT DIED YOU GUYZ
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: implee]
#7532951 - 10/18/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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> funny you guys mentioned it, i havent seen curecat in days.
> whered she go?
Something about school.
If she ditches out on the BBQ saturday she will regret it. But I am sure she wouldn't try such a foolish stunt.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: jet li]
#7533252 - 10/18/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: scout24]
#7533941 - 10/19/07 02:24 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey guys, I have had NO time this past week! 
It really sucks. I missed the MSSF meet on tuesday as well.
I had a big project for school due, had my car in the shop, have been working 30 hrs this week, and began training at a new job.
I wanted to let you guys know what was up but i just couldn't find the time....
The good news is that I think I will have a good bit more free time very soon!! 
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Ego Death
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: scout24]
#7534470 - 10/19/07 08:23 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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scout24 said:
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Ego Death said:
The rules here are pretty strict,
WHY?
I think a secret long-term member only locations map would be excellent.
I'm willing to share mine, anyway but only with true shroomers.
Bad idea.
Sweet! You're willing to share locations that yielded you zero (0) mushrooms in 10 years of hunting!?!?
I'm gonna pass. I'm not a true shroomer anyways.
Naa man, I have info on Amanita's. I can get thousands of them but I don't want to consume Amanita's - I want find libs!
In 10 years I have found in total about 30 libs. For the past 4 years - nothing and I search every year. I know exactly where they are supposed to grow etc I just never find any. I find other mushrooms that are not libs...
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Ego Death]
#7535044 - 10/19/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good to hear from you curecat. hope thats all gonna go away so you may have some peace soon.
BTW, Alan, Curecat, I plan on taking my trip up to San Fran within the next 6-10 weeks. Ill PM you both soon.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#7535572 - 10/19/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice! We'll have to plan a hunt!
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: CureCat]
#7535637 - 10/19/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Most definitely. Itll be like having Christmas twice.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: GGreatOne234]
#7537155 - 10/19/07 08:41 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree, most people are complete jerks when it comes to showing them where the shrooms are exactly.
I'm not a jerk, I'm pretty freindly.
I'm honest but I understand how alot of people can be jerks and just rape patches. It really stinks, I just feel like all this stingyness makes gives bad vibes to the community. I wish we could all just freely distribute all around, but that's not reality, and people have good reason for their stinginess.
I feel those out their though that havn't found anything for a long time. When I first started looking I took the advice to make it part of your lifestyle, because you have to be on the lookout all the time. But I just started getting so stressed out and felt really sick.
I don't think I'm going to find anything this year either, I think if you have the opportunity to grow, do that and save yourself some trouble. That what I would be doing if I could. You can look anyways but maybe you won't find anything. Some people don't. If they were so easy to find, a lot more people would be looking, I think. People who say they're easy to find I think are just in the right place, because in some places, you can look for a long time, until you are real sore and turned over lots of bushes and comb numerous giant woodchip piles and find nothing. It's just chance.
I wish I had some mushroom map too. But I've realized a lot of places are on restricted property, and I'm not even right with that at all.I think I'll have to find them on my own. There's always next year.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
#7537222 - 10/19/07 08:51 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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people who say they are easy to find know what they are doing and have the desire to learn. it's not chance, it's education.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: canid]
#7537254 - 10/19/07 08:59 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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people who say they are easy to find know what they are doing and have the desire to learn. it's not chance, it's education.
So true. You get out what you put in.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
#7537444 - 10/19/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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When I first started looking I took the advice to make it part of your lifestyle, because you have to be on the lookout all the time. But I just started getting so stressed out and felt really sick.
Mushroom hunting stressful? Weird.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Great Scott]
#7537446 - 10/19/07 09:54 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't believe you.
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Great Scott
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
#7537656 - 10/19/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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You can't just go around trudging aimlessly through uncharted waters.
It's more conducive to try n' pay attention to things; ecological relationships and so forth... really zero in on the proper habitat parameters.
Simply stated... it's kind of like process of elimination.
And definitely the dirt time. You gotta (even until you're sore sometimes) put in the time and energy if you want a return.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Ego Death]
#7537771 - 10/20/07 12:07 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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hahaha. Good luck trading "thousands" of amanita for someone's prized psilly spot. Later.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
#7538027 - 10/20/07 01:30 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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> When I first started looking I took the advice to make it part of your lifestyle,
> because you have to be on the lookout all the time. But I just started getting
> so stressed out and felt really sick.
LOL!!!
Well, if you see it as a chore or your interest is not in finding, but in getting high, then yeah, trying to do it ALL the time is gonna make you all strung out. The impulse comes naturally to me, I have to keep myself from scouting for mushrooms while driving and remember to keep my eyes on the road.
> If they were so easy to find, a lot more people would be looking, I think.
Uhhh, well... They are not that easy to find. You have to research and know what to look for.
Many people pass by actives on a regular basis, but few people "stumble" upon them when they are not looking, and have enough knowledge to know what they are and collect them.
>> People who say they're easy to find I think are just in the right place, because
>> in some places, you can look for a long time, until you are real sore and
>> turned over lots of bushes and comb numerous giant woodchip piles and find
>> nothing. It's just chance.
> people who say they are easy to find know what they are doing and have the desire to learn. it's not chance, it's education.
It is chance and education. You need to be in the right place, and you need to know what you are looking for.
For instance, I knew Ps. cyanescens habitat well when i lived in San Diego, and never found a thing.
The first day I visited the Bay Area, I found a patch of them.
This suggests that it is luck/chance and education/practice.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: CureCat]
#7538080 - 10/20/07 02:04 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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i didnt have a clue about mycology at all last year... ive since learned and located cyans, azures, amanita muscaria, chantrelles, and also identified several other types that i dont want anything to do with (damn those mycenas they are everywhere!)
while i certainly think im in a good location, i also know of people in the area who havent found anything. ive spent a lot of time reading through these forums gathering information as well.
and even with my successes i'm sure there are other things im seeing and completely unaware of. there is certainly a learning curve, but this site is full of good information, and if you put in the time, itll happen.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: oregon97103]
#7538177 - 10/20/07 02:59 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm new to the hunting scene myself, but I've already made a lot of observations in the field that just reading text on the internet wouldn't have helped me to understand. I believe it's important to note the surrounding conditions of any mushroom you find, not just actives. I've only been on one hunt, but I've already found mushrooms in places I wouldn't expect. One example was an oak leaf I overturned, which had a tiny cluster of about four inactives underneath. Another was a large inactive cluster that, at a glance, appeared as a small sink or hole in the grass.
Mushrooms can hide themselves very well when they want to. You just have to make careful note of any surface anomalies you've seen that have produced finds, active or not. You'll eventually start to notice them more, at which point you'll hopefully be on the road to finding the good stuff.
But, don't take it from me if you don't want to. I myself have not encountered a psychedelic species yet, but I'm sure I will someday.
As for the rule about disclosing locations - I agree with it. Not because of the distant potential for legal troubles, but because I think that finding active mushrooms is something that should only occur for those who have invested time and effort towards tracking them down. I'm all for generosity if somebody wants to let a friend in on a secret plot of land, but having hot spots openly disclosed would downplay the knowledge and abilities of the people who are interested in the mushrooms themselves, not just their psychoactive effects.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Gill]
#7538201 - 10/20/07 03:11 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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a good point. there was a time, when i was young, where i have vivid memory of wandering the the woods of alaska, fascinated as i have always been by forests and all they contain, and yet do not remember ever seeing or noticing a mushroom other than bracket fungi. one day, i just started noticing them. now, years later, i see mushrooms everywhere i go. i can not keep myself from looking for mushrooms no matter where i am or what i'm doing, at least passively.
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: canid]
#7538223 - 10/20/07 03:28 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah. I've recently developed the habit to wanna skim over every patch of fresh grass I see. It sucks when you see a nice mushroom in the distance when you're amidst a group of people who wouldn't know what to think of you going over to look at it.
Ahh, such is life.
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 Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: Gill]
#7538238 - 10/20/07 03:48 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gill said:
It sucks when you see a nice mushroom in the distance when you're amidst a group of people who wouldn't know what to think of you going over to look at it.
Personally, I've stopped bothering with concealing my interests and general manner. I've come to realize that those people who tolerate my behaviour are far more novel than those who do not. And I prefer strange friends. So it works to my advantage. 
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: CureCat]
#7538528 - 10/20/07 08:28 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Uhhh, well... They are not that easy to find. You have to research and know what to look for.
Many people pass by actives on a regular basis, but few people "stumble" upon them when they are not looking, and have enough knowledge to know what they are and collect them.
I know they're not easy to find. And I know you need to be educated.
This is what offends me so much. Here are some people who find what they're looking for, but then when other people don't find them, they are criticized.
It's an insult to my intelligence, and it's an insult to my labors. There are many people who look and look and don't find anything. Several other people in the thread have claimed that. And even here in Seattle it happens. I know what to look for, it's not rocket science. I have posted my own thread asking for information. I have spent time researching what to look for. I have searched miles and miles of area that contained woodchips and wood debris that many would surely say potentially carried actives. I have searched numerous parks, and wherever I have gone, my eyes have constantly been scanning the area. There is hardly a thing I have not done or a a basic knowledge I lack, that most other pickers don't lack also. I think that people should get the right information. And the right information is : you may not find anything. You may not find anything after getting all the information you need to know, and after searching far and wide. That's the truth, and anything else is misleading.
I've known about mushroom picking since I was a young teen. And I never got into it for this very reason. Because it's hard. Real hard. And because people's behaviour really puts people off.
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> When I first started looking I took the advice to make it part of your lifestyle,
> because you have to be on the lookout all the time. But I just started getting
> so stressed out and felt really sick.
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LOL!!!
Well, if you see it as a chore or your interest is not in finding, but in getting high, then yeah, trying to do it ALL the time is gonna make you all strung out. The impulse comes naturally to me, I have to keep myself from scouting for mushrooms while driving and remember to keep my eyes on the road.
First of all, it's not nice to laugh. Second of all, I have never done actives before. So it's really stressful. When I first started hunting it wasn't so bad. I awaited that "big surprise" in finding something. Now it's just agony. There's a proverb, and it goes like this:
Hope deferred makes the heart sick, But desire fulfilled is a tree of life.
Now until my desire is fulfilled, It makes me feel sick, real sick. I already have anxiety problems as it is. And I keep telling myself to just let it go, it's not wroth the stress, but I got the mushroom bug, and I can't get it out. Once I've actually tried them, and know what it's like, that'll help alot. And once I've actually found them in the wild, then that'll help alot. But until then, I'm just stressed out.
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people who say they are easy to find know what they are doing and have the desire to learn. it's not chance, it's education.
It is chance and education. You need to be in the right place, and you need to know what you are looking for.
You were right in your second statement. It's chance and education. Some areas will have lots, while other areas have none. But the "sure fire" places really go to look (at least around here) are in one of these places:
1. stealing from parks
2. illegally trespassing and stealing from private business property
3. illegally trespassing and stealing from personal private property
I never was willing to do the last two, and I started to do that first long enough to search a big deal, until I realized the laws. It's the forbidden fruit, and I won't bite. It's against the law and it makes me mad and gives people a bad name. This is another one of the reasons why so many people look down on drug users. Because they will steal. Drug users are a bunch of thieves, esp the teenagers. And no one can tell me it's not true, because I have met so many users, and I have walked thew walk, and there is hardly a user that will not steal to support their habit if they have to.
But it's not all education, a lot of it has to do with chance, and experience can help too. I've seen it when I study the id's and pictures in the hunting forum. And when people can go on their lunch break, and go find a bunch of cyans, that has a lot less to do with experience then just plain chance.
Anyways, people who are looking for locations, I just feel like why are you asking. If somebody knows a location, don't you think they would have told their friends before you? Don't you think it would be picked already? I think so.
And even if not, the idea of openly posting locations..large groups of people would flock to that single location, and patches would be destroyed. There's a lot of people who want get high and have no interest in mycology, and they will tear the patches to shreds and they won't share with you either.
Here's what you do. Go down to the store. Buy a huge bag of whatever substrate they naturally grow in. Put it down in your yard or somewhere hidden in the environment. Then get some spores and mix it up, and wait. That's what I'm going to do. Never have to worry about finding locations ever again!
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Re: Why are we not aloud to talk about locations? [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
#7538570 - 10/20/07 08:50 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay look, I am NOT insulting or criticizing anyone for not finding what they are looking for!!
I said, "This suggests that it is luck/chance and education/practice."
You could have all the education and practice, and not find a goddamn thing! Just bad luck!
Secondly, I don't consider picking something that most people will never notice, and most people consider eye sores, to be "stealing".
Although, by law this may be the case, I do NOT agree with all laws. I have NEVER been chased off by a business or home owner for picking their mushrooms. They are usually curious and somewhat amused when i talk with them, and I have even been invited for further inspection of their back yard!
It is your own deal if you do not want to pick on public/private/business property, however, that is where Ps. cyanescens likes to grow. So you are sacrificing a lot of good territory.
I'll be interested to see if your first find is growing from a private or business property and how you deal with it.... My first find was in a VERY indiscreet spot, and my nerve got to me after the first harvest, so I got dressed up and went to get permission. Worked like a charm!
> Here's what you do. Go down to the store. Buy a huge bag of
> whatever substrate they naturally grow in. Put it down in your
> yard or somewhere hidden in the environment. Then get some
> spores and mix it up, and wait. That's what I'm going to do.
> Never have to worry about finding locations ever again!
It is not that simple.
I mean, it could work, though I have attempted this expecting nothing to come of it, and that is exactly the result i got.
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