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OfflineLilMerlin
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Maza overlay again: how to avoid?
    #752277 - 07/17/02 12:34 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

The situation:

This is my second attemp at growing Mazas. Last time my 50/50+ ph was probably wrong, so I decided to opt for a neutral casing soil: Coco choir and straight verm.

the two following casings were incubated for four days and put into the fridge for two weeks (I was on holiday). They have been in the same terrarium for four days now and the Maza has monstruous overlay, while the Gulf Coast (below - cased with straight verm) is doing fine.

substrate: birdseed (but I don?t think it matters a lot since I had the same problem of overlaying in my first attempt with rye.)

Maza - coir:


GulfCoast - verm:


A closeup: fresh fluffy mycelium is coming up from the overlayed (covered with drops) layer.


I have been fanning (five seconds or more with a book) and and spraying above the above casings about four times a day. You can see the fine droplets on the mycelium.

Now, my question is: What are the means to avoid this overlay for this particular strain?

LilMerlin, hoping that desipite this deadly surface, one or two mushies are going to pop up anyway.


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Re: Maza overlay again: how to avoid? [Re: LilMerlin]
    #752396 - 07/17/02 04:04 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I am using 50/50 with peat moss and verm for bottom and top layer and have had huge success. I think (not sure) that overlay happens when you try to initiate the pins too late. I think you left it in the dark too long and let the mycelium overtake the substrate. That would be my guess. you should introduce light and put into the fruiting chamber once the mycelium starts poking through the valleys in your substrate. I wish I knew how to give you a link and all that jazzy stuff. I thought I would give you my opinion.

good luck


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Re: Maza overlay again: how to avoid? [Re: closetfreak]
    #752420 - 07/17/02 04:38 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

>What are the means to avoid this overlay for this particular strain?

Don?t use coir. Use 50/50+ casing or vermiculte.

>I think you left it in the dark too long and let the mycelium
>overtake the substrate. That would be my guess. you
>should introduce light and put into the fruiting chamber once
>the mycelium starts poking through the valleys in your substrate.

Good advice!

> I wish I knew how to give you a link and all that jazzy stuff.

Simply paste the link including the http:// and it will appear as a link automatically.




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Re: Maza overlay again: how to avoid? [Re: Anno]
    #752454 - 07/17/02 05:26 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I tried with verm as well.... and this one began overlaying alread in the fridge... at 5 deg Celcius. I don?t understand this mycelium... I wants to grow and grow and grow...

The one you?re seing here is the one with straight verm, everything the same as the one with coir:


But the one with coir was not overlayed at all; only a few timid dots of mycelium on the coir... that?s all. Only four days at around 23-5 deg. made it completely white as you can see. Maybe I?m fanning too little, maybe there?s too much humidity... but there is a lot of light (the terrarium is under my window, and there are clowds all the time, so: no direct sunlight and when there is, I move them farther from the window.)

The black thing on the left is some choir-verm added to avoid complete overlay if it does anything... just experimenting.

I must be doing something wrong... I?ll try fanning for 30secs or more 4-6 times a day... and we?ll see. And if any of you has some good idea... I?m all ears.

LilMerlin.


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