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coolimushi
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Considering having LSD
#7521959 - 10/16/07 01:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey all,
I have recently turned 17 years old, and I was wondering if I would be mentally prepared to take LSD.I smoke pot often and I have tripped on shrooms 4 times, and my last experience was a very strong trip. Total mind fuck, strong visuals, extreme confusion at some stages, heavy nausea at the come up, however, I had a beautiful trip, although a strange experience which is hard for me to express, it was wonderful and enlightened me into the spiraling world of psychedelics. My mates are great, no one ever seems to freak out during our trips, and it has always ended nicely, with us trying to express to each other what has happened and how amazing it was. So, I was wondering what you experts thought about this, and if you could give me any necessary tips for my first acid trip, also if you could give me a bit of info on the differences on shrooms and acid would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Cooli
Edited by coolimushi (10/16/07 01:50 AM)
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Re: Considering having LSD [Re: coolimushi]
#7522001 - 10/16/07 02:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You shouldn't say your 17 on legal-age forum. Use the search function for differences between shrooms and lsd and you've got all you need. Have fun!
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Re: Considering having LSD [Re: coolimushi]
#7522109 - 10/16/07 05:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ignoring the fact that you're breaking the rules by posting here: If you're doubting you're not mentally mature enough, then you're not.
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Freedom
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First you should realize these people aren't experts: this is a mix of high school kids, college kids, old hippies, and some other people who all have their own opinions.
At this point, beyond the basic pharmacodynamics, very little is known about the differences between mushrooms and LSD, and all psychoactive drugs effect different people in different ways.
The truth is, as Albert Hoffman said, taking psychedelics is a very serious experiment. There is too little known about psychedelics for someone to say with any kind of authority whether they would be good or even safe for you to try.
In my experience dose, set and setting determine far more than the individual drug. On any of your mushroom trips have you ever changed or put on music and experienced a dramatic alteration of your consciousness from it? The simple difference of having my eyes opened or closed has a much bigger difference on the experience than whether I am on LSD or shrooms.
I would recommend reading the erowid experience reports, looking at good and bad trips, and really process why you want to do psychedelics, what they might mean to you, how they might fit into your life, etc.
If you really are intent on using psychedelics, it would help you to learn how preparation of your set and setting can influence the character of the trip. Unfortunately it is difficult to find people skilled in this, but you can play with the variables and learn yourself.
You should also acknowledge the risks: psychedelics can trigger psychotic breaks, they can trigger schizophrenia, they can lead to anxiety disorders, they can make you paranoid or confused causing you to do dangerous things like jumping out of windows, and they can cause perceptual disorders which may leave you with disturbed vision for years.
That said, most people do not experience theses things, but from my reading of literature it seems that ~1% do. That's 1 out of 100. I would be extra cautious if you have bipolar disorder or a history of schizophrenia in your family.
No one here can really tell you what you should do. I suggest you familiarize yourself with the effects. Erowid is a good source. Books such as "The Varieties of the Psychedelic Experience" and "The Adventure of Self Discovery" are very good at explaining the various experience psychedelics are likely to yield.
I urge you to thoroughly contemplate yourself and psychedelics.
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Re: Considering having LSD [Re: Freedom]
#7522528 - 10/16/07 10:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would wait a while, because LSD is a little crazy. Not to say that it is more intense or powerful than mushrooms, I just happen to think that the experience is a little harder to handle.
Maybe it's because mushrooms are perectly natural, and mimick very similarly our own neurotransmitters, while LSD is man-made and compared to psilocybin, has a pretty different structure than endogenous neurotransmitters.
Or maybe my experiences stem from a preconcieved idea that LSD would be a little bit weirder than mushrooms because of that difference.
My point is that LSD is great, but when I first tried it (by that time being pretty experienced with mushrooms and cactus, and having some very intense ayahuasca experiences under my belt) it was very weird, and I felt like I was barely holding on to my sanity.
It's like I didn't quite trust LSD like I did natural hallucinogens.
Since that time, I have had much more intense, but much more pleasant acid trips. I guess it just took some getting used to.
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thats sorta weird, i feel the exact opposite from these guys....if youve tripped on shrooms 4 times youll be fine on acid, especially if youve had an intense mushroom trip before...
there are some basic differences between shroom and acid trips, the most pronounced is that shrooms have that really spiritual and emotional effect on you...when your comming down alotta times you feel like you wanna change your life, etc...acid is less emotional/spiritual , IME, acid makes you feel more high/goofy than shrooms do...it can still be really powerful and all encompassing and rapturing and all that, but in general i would say that acid trips are easier to handle than shroom trips because so much of it is visually based, as opposed to having a spiritual mindfuck...on acid i also tend not to have "thought loops" the way i do on shrooms, which makes it less likely for me to get nervous/anxious (for which i have a huge propensity) also, acid lasts alot longer than shrooms, but it sorta comes and goes, youll feel fine after 8 hrs of trippin, but youll keep getting residual visuals for a long time
in my experience acid is easier to handle than shrooms
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Re: Considering having LSD [Re: coolimushi]
#7522709 - 10/16/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's fucked up that we ban people for being underage. I know we have an 18+ rule, but who'd 'o thought we'd actually ban people who admitted they were underage?
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Re: Considering having LSD [Re: JunkFood]
#7522759 - 10/16/07 11:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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because minors get people into trouble.
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Re: Considering having LSD [Re: JunkFood]
#7522880 - 10/16/07 12:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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JunkFood said: It's fucked up that we ban people for being underage. I know we have an 18+ rule, but who'd 'o thought we'd actually ban people who admitted they were underage?
Happens all the time. Protects us from the parents of 17 year old French girls who jump off bridges.
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Exactly, minors are a huge legal responsibility and they really do have no place on a site like this.
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Happens all the time. Protects us from the parents of 17 year old French girls who jump off bridges.
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Re: Considering having LSD [Re: Acyl]
#7523500 - 10/16/07 02:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can see why banning minors is completely reasonable, but then I also can see most every person on this site breaking a federal law in one way or another because we think its a stupid law. But then us turning around and setting laws and saying to other people don't break these or you get banned... I still agree with it, but I can say if I did get banned I would be rootin tootin mad...
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boletusoftruth said: I can see why banning minors is completely reasonable, but then I also can see most every person on this site breaking a federal law in one way or another because we think its a stupid law. But then us turning around and setting laws and saying to other people don't break these or you get banned... I still agree with it, but I can say if I did get banned I would be rootin tootin mad...
speak for yourself, im not a criminal
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Re: Considering having LSD [Re: boomer q]
#7523556 - 10/16/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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He should have not stated his age. Then we wouldn't be flipping out, and no one would be the wiser.
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Re: Considering having LSD [Re: boomer q]
#7523643 - 10/16/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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boomer q said: speak for yourself, im not a criminal
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AlCapwn
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In today's society, everyone is guilty of one crime or another.
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boletusoftruth said: I still agree with it, but I can say if I did get banned I would be rootin tootin mad...
Rootin Tootin...?
Edited by Adagio (10/16/07 03:08 PM)
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Re: Considering having LSD [Re: coolimushi]
#7523733 - 10/16/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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In my opinion, growing and tripping on shrooms is a thing for minors.
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Re: Considering having LSD [Re: AlCapwn]
#7523836 - 10/16/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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AlCapwn said: In today's society, everyone is guilty of one crime or another.
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lsd is not as mind bending as a high dose of mushrooms... now back to school fool...
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