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OfflineCaptainLinger
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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: robbyberto]
    #7535198 - 10/19/07 12:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

CDMA, the analog predecessor to GSM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdma

Used to be phone calls were handled by a particular frequency range, switching when they moved between towers. You could listen with an analog scanner. Now voice traffic is encrypted, and no, you can't just pull it out of the air. Even as such, using that evidence in court would have to meet wiretap standards.


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7535427 - 10/19/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Good to know. Thanks.


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7535865 - 10/19/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I was chatting with a guy wearing a Calif police jacket. "Hell of a commute" I said. He explained it was his brother's.

Apparently his brother is on a team whose primary responsibility is to kick into action when another cop is murdered. His team monitors cell phones (didn't specify text messages or voice, but I got the impression it was both) after a cop is killed and looks for certain activity that is consistent with what the gangs do to protect those responsible for the killing.

I'm all for catching the cop-killers, but knowing what I know I carefully avoid anything incriminating on cell calls or text messages.


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7535999 - 10/19/07 03:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

CaptainLinger said:
I'd just love to see the police incident where a mid-level drug dealer was pursued and phone tapped under the Patriot Act. That's just silly. Wiretaps are on the very, very laborious, difficult, and pricey end of surveillance. When you get busted it will be due to a traffic stop, or an informant.

Just because you hear about it on the news doesn't mean you're next, and it's not as if police are running an all-resources war here. If you're big enough to get hit by that kind of prosecution, you shouldn't be visiting a cultivation-oriented site, period.




He speaks the truth. While there have been abuses of the patriot act (for non-national security investigations) that doesn't mean your likely to ever encounter it. And its future in the courts is uncerain.


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: johnm214]
    #7536756 - 10/19/07 06:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Poker, I think that's exactly what I'm talking about. You don't fuck up a cop, period. One of the cardinal rules of maintaining an effective "peaceful" enforcement corps is ensuring the personal security of officers.

Growing shrooms? It's not like they're going to have to personally answer to that, anytime. Mushrooms are decentralized. I've never heard of GDs trying to learn PF.


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7538641 - 10/20/07 09:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

on the same topic, how safe is say aol/aim to be discussing "larger" illegal activities? i know that information isnt confidential and a log is always kept on file somewhere, same applies for myspace and facebook too...

how safe are other messenger systems--yahoo, skype, etc...


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: Crystal G]
    #7669526 - 11/23/07 08:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Crystal G said:
on the same topic, how safe is say aol/aim to be discussing "larger" illegal activities? i know that information isnt confidential and a log is always kept on file somewhere, same applies for myspace and facebook too...

how safe are other messenger systems--yahoo, skype, etc...


Can someone answer this plz.


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: bumble]
    #7671088 - 11/23/07 04:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm curious to know as well.


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: Robo]
    #7671214 - 11/23/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

when in doubt exercise caution  :tinfoil:


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: bumble]
    #7672009 - 11/23/07 07:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

There's no beating face-to-face communication.


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: Robo]
    #7672571 - 11/23/07 09:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Adagio said:
There's no beating face-to-face communication.




You mean face to face communication, whispering under a blasting radio so that not even a recorder outside can pick up your vocal waves :lol: [/total tweaker status]


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: Zwieback0]
    #7674154 - 11/24/07 10:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

govt is trying to make it legal for phone companies to provide them with records regarding where calls are coming from so they can "track" the locations of drug dealers.. right. i'll believe that...


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: nerotheavenger]
    #7674499 - 11/24/07 12:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

instant messaging is a lot safer than cell phones i think.

Messages can be encrypted. You can use various methods and also use VPNs to further hide your traffic.


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: Liquidkick]
    #7680457 - 11/26/07 02:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The latest scatterchat might have a flaw in it so I dont know if its safe to use. Im completely new to this area but watching this video was pretty interesting.



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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: bumble]
    #7680770 - 11/26/07 07:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Talking is much safer, text messages and IMs can be documented


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7680856 - 11/26/07 08:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

its like you didnt bother reading the last posts of this thread..


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: bumble]
    #7682485 - 11/26/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

So? I knew the answer and replied.. Is it a fuckin requirement to read every post in every thread you post in?


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7682506 - 11/26/07 04:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

YES :crankey:


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: Robo]
    #7705115 - 12/02/07 01:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Telephones in general are not worth the risk, Definately a face to face business.


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Re: Which is safer? Text Messages or Calls [Re: Robo]
    #7706246 - 12/02/07 11:42 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Does anyone know if there is such a thing as encrypted IM's?

I wold love to have AIM to be secure like PGP, Hushmail,etc.
Do they have instant message encryption,proxies, or something like that?


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