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OfflineAlan RockefellerM
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Re: Oregon ID Request [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7525092 - 10/16/07 07:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

> the spore print is brown.
> The scent is very fungi smell to it.
> tearing off the cap's skin its very smooth. There are lines, maybe the gills underneath?

Sounds like an Inocybe.

It is inactive for sure. Don't eat it.


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Re: Oregon ID Request [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7525134 - 10/16/07 08:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The reason for good pictures and an even better description is so you dont get so many different answers as shown in this thread... I doubt its active just from your particular habbitat... but who am i right?


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Re: Oregon ID Request [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7525151 - 10/16/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you guys for helping. I have a few more that I found, but I"m getting prints and stuff first. I'm sorry for the poor quality in the photos, its hard to get them looking perfect with a cell phone, and thats all I have.
If I come across them again and can get more definite descriptions and even pictures I'll let you all know, since apparently this mushroom isn't shown often (like someone said).
I'm sure I know the answer, but would it help at all if I drew the mushroom? I'm pretty confident in my ability to draw and since I have photo shop and such, I could make the colors accurate and bigger.
Just a suggestion.


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Re: Oregon ID Request [Re: Vhan]
    #7525375 - 10/16/07 08:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I apologize for insulting you. this forum is over 18 though and if i am going to be insulted i will do the same to my offender. when my knowledge and credibility are questioned in a ludicrous manner i shall do the same back.

Thanks for the warning.


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Re: Oregon ID Request [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7525997 - 10/16/07 11:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

"ludicrous" is informing an uninformed person that a poisonous mushroom belongs to a family on non-toxic mushrooms, and then being too proud to admit you made a mistake to even accept it in a civil manner.

one could also apply the same level of observation to the act of giving an "apology" in the form of an insult.

Carelessly throwing around guesses and believing yourself too wise to err or be corrected is not cool.

If you take your "knowledge and credibility" seriously enough to FIGHT for when its put into question, you should put the effort into actually LEARNING why it's getting questioned.

argumentative nothing, all i did was correct you.
because you were wrong. you don't need to be angry at me, just don't be wrong in the hunting forum about IDs.
people are getting too complacent about calling everything that is a look-alike a probable example of one of the many commonly-found look-alikes.

The particular one "foenisecci" is frequently consumed as a possible active by those who read the wealth of misinformation available on many "credible" mushroom sites.
its also often consumed along with pan subbs by those who do not know the difference, a harmless practice.

ID'ng Inocybes as THIS particular mushroom is subsequently dangerous, THATS why you were corrected. not because I have any sort of interest in your "knowledge and credibility"

conclusively, you didn't "do the same back"

so, hey, live and learn, you got lots of time to work on your legacy of credibility, and now you know better than to be careless.


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Re: Oregon ID Request [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7526033 - 10/16/07 11:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Whatever...

Everyone knows there are only two species of mushroom.

Pan. subbs
Pan. foes

Thanks for the warning.




heheh. just playin'.


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Re: Oregon ID Request [Re: jet li]
    #7526076 - 10/16/07 11:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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jet li said:
Quote:

Subbedhunter420 said:
Whatever...

Everyone knows there are only two species of mushroom.

Pan. subbs
Pan. foes

Thanks for the warning.




heheh. just playin'.




its true if u live in so-cal


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Re: Oregon ID Request [Re: jet li]
    #7526091 - 10/16/07 11:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

oops, forgot to mention, Inocybe geophylla is usually brown or pallid. sometimes appearing hygrophanous, between the growth and decline stages of fruiting. The color purple occurs gregariously among populations, so having many brown or pallid specimens and a few purple is in fact an identifier of this species.

ALL the pictured mushrooms should be considered inocybes, not JUST the purple ones.


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Re: Oregon ID Request [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7526130 - 10/16/07 11:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

> oops, forgot to mention, Inocybe geophylla is usually brown or pallid.

Inocybe geophylla is all white.

Inocybe geophylla var. lilacina is probably the one you were thinking of. It is a good match for the pictures in this thread. Both Inocybe species contain quite a bit of muscarine.


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Re: Oregon ID Request [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7526379 - 10/17/07 01:07 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ya know i feel like not being nice and continuing my argument but its not gonna get me anywhere but banned. I guess my trade off of the word toxic with inedible wasnt suitable? i think you do the same wording apology/insults as i do also. I have also scolded people for being hard headed on this forum. go dig up some closed threads. You also have a different way of thinking and the way you write to people may offend them more than you know. Different lives. get used to others. ill will get used to yours. done

I never want to have this conversation again.


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Re: Oregon ID Request [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7526465 - 10/17/07 02:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, but if anyone DOES dig up old posts. try to refrain from posting responses to people who may very well be dead.

Thanks.

hehehhe.


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Re: Oregon ID Request [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7526546 - 10/17/07 02:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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> oops, forgot to mention, Inocybe geophylla is usually brown or pallid.

Inocybe geophylla is all white.

Inocybe geophylla var. lilacina is probably the one you were thinking of. It is a good match for the pictures in this thread. Both Inocybe species contain quite a bit of muscarine.




those are not separate species.
they are mearly separate color variations.
technically, i doubt they are even separate subspecies.

and they can occur quite brown


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Re: Oregon ID Request [Re: jet li]
    #7527215 - 10/17/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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jet li said:
yeah, but if anyone DOES dig up old posts. try to refrain from posting responses to people who may very well be dead.

Thanks.

hehehhe.




lol
yes but i wouldntve killed em. if someone died from this thread due to me id probably change my Acct. name and start over. most likely put flowers on the next inocybe i saw... the ones in my back yard.


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Re: Oregon ID Request [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7528691 - 10/17/07 05:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hhahah. Oh, i wasn't saying that your ID had killed anyone, just that every once in a while someone replies to a post from like 2001, and it's hilarious because all you see in the avatars is :



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Re: Oregon ID Request [Re: jet li]
    #7530913 - 10/18/07 11:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yes i know exactly what you mean. haha.

its even better when workman finishes working up a new species and pulls the old thread out it came from and posts his work in it.


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