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Mushrooms are just not for me
    #7520954 - 10/15/07 08:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well, after succesfully cultivating and enjoying the rewards of my labour.

This really isnt for me. Mushrooms are just too powerfull, while i had a great first experience. And this experience has been undescribable and frightening (without being a bad trip)

I had the most relaxed chilled out coming up watching TV.

But i just get so physically tired that i really wanted to sleep and when i thought that the peak was over. And that i could sleep.

Going to sleep while still triping is unbelievable and frightening at the same time. In the absense of light, all manour of things come to life, some disturbing and some absolutly gorgeous.

Yet it is too distracting, and i had to get up as i would have went insane trying to sleep.

I know when i do manage to sleep and get up ready for work, things will be back too normal and i will have a fresh lease of life.

either when i get up, or after work, the remaining shrooms from my pf cake will be picked, hopefully to go to someone to experience.

I have 3 jars waiting to be birth, they will not be. and the 2 i just inoc'd 3 days ago.


IM going to enjoy being straight for a while.

I have spent far to much time checking my jars, fanning out my fc and misting that could have been better spent taking care of paper work etc.

Thanxs everyone for there help its been grate fun.

oh i think i may have touched on level 4

cant wait till i can sleep!


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7520978 - 10/15/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I have spent far to much time checking my jars, fanning out my fc and misting that could have been better spent taking care of paper work etc.





PAPERWORK!!
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7520984 - 10/15/07 08:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hey thats alright, Mushrooms arnt for everyone, everyone has something that they will flip head over heals for because of how good it seems to the individual. That sucks (and at the same time is pretty funny) you put in all this work for something you were looking so forward to and in the end not like mushrooms. I give you tons of respect for all your work you put in to experience something you cultivated yourself. :thumbup::smile::mushroom2:
And while they are wearing off, just try to have some fun while its still there! Watch some southpark, the colors are trippy as hell and it looks really weird when you watch the old episodes when they still used cardboard or paper or w/e.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: elmanimal]
    #7521018 - 10/15/07 09:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah well paper which im so behind on for the taxman etc i gotta straighten up get things sorted, or i could loose everything.

Well not loose everything, ill get into trouble and spend years recoring from it.

The other thing that i have been meaning to ask, is that i get very sore while triping and for an hour afterwards, particularly at the solor plexus, its very uncomfortable, really the most annoying part, and i mean its really uncomfortable.

Its very hard to describe, but that feeling by itself is probably really tiring me out.

i have to admit that on this trip i have had a bit of a hard time, mostly it very nice relazing and just went with the flow, but it went on longer than i thought and i really want to sleep. But i cant cause i tried and it gets alll crazy.

I think u should all try that, even for just 15 minutes, go to bed just as you think ur peaking (which i thought i was over, turns out i was still peaking) its a very crazy experience.

Thanfully i knew that i had to get up and keep myself occupied, otherwise it could have gotten very bad.

As soon as i went through to the livingroom and turned on the lights felt much much better.

I must be at the tail end of the trip by now, the discomfort is subsiding and the hullucinations are ver slight now.

oh while i remember, i got up to go to the toilet and dint put my glass's on (im short sighted) and it was so confusing, rather than just having blurred vision, i had all these blurry diamond shapes across my vision. Mad


sorry for the bad typing, im very tired and somewhat confused and rambling a little bit, but i need to keep myself occupied


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7521031 - 10/15/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

For the soreness, you could try taking some kava before your trip. Just a thought.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: The_Bomb]
    #7521045 - 10/15/07 09:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lol i just read ur reply, funnily enough i was watching southpark coming up on the peak.

ive had fun during this short time, but i can see this causing more harm than is good. i really should be sleeping as im at work, supposed to be up in about 8 hours.

There are other factors, like im living in rented flat, and at the moment we are having problems that may result in a visit to our flat, plus with my girlfriends parents being so protective of her i really cant put all that at risk just for a bit of fun.

I really have to put it to her, but i cant believe how understanding she has been. that she has accepted that i wanted to try something not only highly illegal but very powerfull.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7521093 - 10/15/07 09:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Its weird because i like the darkness while im tripping. All the doc.s ive told that i like the darkness (whether it be a huge questionare thing or whatnot) they say its part of my depression, so i guess you have to be depressed to like the darkness. :confused:


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7521103 - 10/15/07 09:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)



edit: whoops


Edited by jonathan_206 (10/15/07 11:31 PM)


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: The_Bomb]
    #7521121 - 10/15/07 09:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Try a low dose during the day before you give it up. Maybe 2 grams if you have been doing eights. If you are looking for fun rather than revelations, you are more likely to find it there.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7521135 - 10/15/07 09:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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can I have your mushrooms then please? I've never done them before.




Bam wrong question to ask. You should have just PM'ed him and not said this in open forum.:mushroom2:


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7521181 - 10/15/07 09:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ok now that im almost over my trip.

I think i can admit that it was bad. thankfully i kept myself in control by keeping myself occupied on the internet.

i did search for stopping a trip but i knew that wasnt possibly anyway, but it kept me busy.

ive drank far too much water so when i do go to bed, ill probably be up every hour or so going to the toilete.

ok going to have a smoke and try and sleep.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7521234 - 10/15/07 09:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Do you enjoy any other hallucinogens?


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: Land_Crab]
    #7521250 - 10/15/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i had acid once it was very mild acid,was ok. closed eye visuals were awesm very 3d.

to be honest im really not interested in hullucinogens anymore.

some weed would be really nice though


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7521252 - 10/15/07 09:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If you have anything to help you sleep take it. I have found its hard to fall asleep for a while after a trip (or during also). If you have a benadryl take 4 you will be out in no time


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7521256 - 10/15/07 09:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

really want to sleep but im afraid things will kik of if i try and sleep, im almost back to normal but dont want to risk it


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7521277 - 10/15/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Fair enough; different strokes for different folks. Psychedelic experiences are not to be trifled with.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: Land_Crab]
    #7521316 - 10/15/07 10:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

right im really going to bed now, things have stopped breathing i think i can relax.

night everyone. Ill be back in a few days to let u all know im ok :smile:


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: Land_Crab]
    #7521324 - 10/15/07 10:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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i had acid once it was very mild acid,was ok. closed eye visuals were awesm very 3d.

to be honest im really not interested in hullucinogens anymore.

some weed would be really nice though





I've read all of your reports on your experiences as you have posted them. I get where you are coming from and agree with you.

Maybe you just got all you need for now. Maybe for good.

Time will tell.

Right now it seems like it's time for reflection.

Good night. :smile:


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: The_Bomb]
    #7521360 - 10/15/07 10:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Its weird because i like the darkness while im tripping. All the doc.s ive told that i like the darkness (whether it be a huge questionare thing or whatnot) they say its part of my depression, so i guess you have to be depressed to like the darkness. :confused:




Ha, yeah when I was depressed I loved the rain and darkness. I still do like the rain but before I was just in LOVE with it, most beautiful thing to me and brought me lots of happiness.

For the poster, I know how you feel. I think everyone has drugs that are great for them and one's that just aren't. For me, marijuana which seems to be one of everyone's favorite drugs, I can't handle at all. I get anxious and paranoid etc. Out of curiousity, how much did you take?


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: Land_Crab]
    #7521433 - 10/15/07 10:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The first time I had shrooms, I took an 8th and had a real mind awakening trip, but it did get scary for a bit and I contemplated suicide, but I was able to keep myself level by reminding that it was only a drug and would be over soon. I'm still glad i did it. Since then, I've done it a few more times.

I haven't had shrooms in a few years... Been looking for some earlier this summer.

This summer was my first time trying Salvia 20x, two bowls... :eek:
What a trip! I have never been so high... It really scared the shit out of me how fast and powerful it came on... I had absolutely no control over the shit I experienced. I have however learned more about how it affects the brain and how you can try to control it, but IMO it's best to just take the ride.

Anyway, that first experience with Salvia has made me unsure if I want to eat shrooms again. At least the salvia only lasted less than an hour, though it felt like an eternity. Whereas the shrooms will be a much longer ride.

I thought that maybe as time went on, I became more and more grounded in reality and that now when I take hallucinogens it removes that safe grounding in reality and makes me very uncomfortable. It never used to do that... I used to be a ____* traveler and was most comfortable on hallucinogens, compared to reality.  (*I don't even remember the word used to describe the frequent user... something like juggernaught)


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: TehGreatMutato]
    #7521453 - 10/15/07 10:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Glad you gave things a shot! Knowing they're not the thing for you is better than never having tried them at all. At least you learned something new, both from the cultivating and from the consumption.

May your life take you everywhere you want to go!

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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: TehGreatMutato]
    #7521468 - 10/15/07 10:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You need to shroom at times other than when you have work in eight hours and taxes to be done.

Period.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: TehGreatMutato]
    #7521544 - 10/15/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't even remember the word used to describe the frequent user... something like juggernaught





Maybe my subnic but good enough anyway. :grin:

Don't let salvia scare you from shrooms. You won't get a salvia experience on a shroom time or a shroom experience on a salvia time.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: TehGreatMutato]
    #7521545 - 10/15/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I had a similar experience where I got a horrid headache and fatigue during what should've been the best part of the trip. I think it has something to do with my severe allergy to mold and yeast, which are also fungi. In fact, mold causes me to see spots before my eyes, tracers, and have basically the same fatigue as shrooms did.

The solution? I tried a low dose of only 1-1.5 grams (ground up in chocolate for improved digestion) and felt much better. Still had some enjoyable visuals and the fun body high, too.

Maybe shrooms aren't right for you...they're certainly not for everyone, which is okay. They're not my drug of choice, but I'll still take them if offered!


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7521651 - 10/15/07 11:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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You need to shroom at times other than when you have work in eight hours and taxes to be done.

Period.




Yeah, very good point. Can't take shrooms anytime, do it when it sounds best, not when you're just bored and have nothing better to do. I did them because I was bored once and sure it brought something new and entertaining but much less of an experience than I was hoping for. Also, doing it with others can make it a much better time as long as they are someone who's company you enjoy.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: BirdsIView]
    #7521752 - 10/15/07 11:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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For me, marijuana which seems to be one of everyone's favorite drugs, I can't handle at all. I get anxious and paranoid etc. Out of curiousity, how much did you take?



Yea same thing, EVERYONE i know loves marijuana but all it does to me is make me super paranoid and weirded out. I hate that when you get to know someone who does drugs you almost always start with smoking a bowl with them, that just fucks everything up for me.

As far as the darkness thing and depression. I really see no relavence, just because i like something that people think is a negative thing does that mean my whole attitude towards life is negative? Maybe i like the darkness because its calming. I hate it when the doctors "know best",
what i was told a few days ago... "some people need meds and cant help what they have, i have high blood pressure and take meds, i dont want to but i do. Your depressed and have to take pills to not be depressed" Getting fucking sick of "medical professionals"


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: The_Bomb]
    #7521835 - 10/16/07 12:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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For me, marijuana which seems to be one of everyone's favorite drugs, I can't handle at all. I get anxious and paranoid etc. Out of curiousity, how much did you take?



Yea same thing, EVERYONE i know loves marijuana but all it does to me is make me super paranoid and weirded out. I hate that when you get to know someone who does drugs you almost always start with smoking a bowl with them, that just fucks everything up for me.

As far as the darkness thing and depression. I really see no relavence, just because i like something that people think is a negative thing does that mean my whole attitude towards life is negative? Maybe i like the darkness because its calming. I hate it when the doctors "know best",
what i was told a few days ago... "some people need meds and cant help what they have, i have high blood pressure and take meds, i dont want to but i do. Your depressed and have to take pills to not be depressed" Getting fucking sick of "medical professionals"




Yeah man, I can't even hang out with a lot of my friends because all they do is smoke weed when they hang out. I make myself look so stupid when I do marijuana, I can't talk right, I become antisocial which leads to me sitting there over-analyzing everything about me and the way my friends view me or stuff like that. I'd even have trouble just passing a blunt because I was so nervous and I guess having anxiety attacks. Also, it makes me dumb to the the point that I would skip words like "not" in sentences when reading and have to read things multiple times to understand it. Out of nothing better to do and some change in my day to day life, I still do it when I'm alone on weekends. For awhile I would still do it all the time with my friends because I was addicted to it basically (and yes weed is addictive if you ask me, mentally at least) and every time I thought that it would change and I would feel the way everyone else felt, but that never happened.

It seems alcohol does to me what weed does to my friends.

As for darkness, it could be you just liking darkness but I'll say this, when I was depressed I would go out and just look up at the stars and think about life. I would have a nice calming feeling but now that I'm not depressed, the darkness doesn't do that for me. It makes me worried more than happy. I remember when I was depressed I said how I like the rain and gloomy weather and my sister said "it reflects your mood" and I didn't agree with that. It's kind of like why it took so long for me to quit marijuana, I can only remember the feeling that I have at that point in time and I think that every other time I will feel the same way. If that made any sense...I'm tired ha. Basically, I can't relate or understand any other feeling other than my present one. Like with marijuana, when I was sober, I would think "oh it's just weed, how bad can it really be" and every time it would be just as bad as before. Stupid me.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: BirdsIView]
    #7522033 - 10/16/07 03:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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For me, marijuana which seems to be one of everyone's favorite drugs, I can't handle at all. I get anxious and paranoid etc. Out of curiousity, how much did you take?



Yea same thing, EVERYONE i know loves marijuana but all it does to me is make me super paranoid and weirded out. I hate that when you get to know someone who does drugs you almost always start with smoking a bowl with them, that just fucks everything up for me.

As far as the darkness thing and depression. I really see no relavence, just because i like something that people think is a negative thing does that mean my whole attitude towards life is negative? Maybe i like the darkness because its calming. I hate it when the doctors "know best",
what i was told a few days ago... "some people need meds and cant help what they have, i have high blood pressure and take meds, i dont want to but i do. Your depressed and have to take pills to not be depressed" Getting fucking sick of "medical professionals"




Yeah man, I can't even hang out with a lot of my friends because all they do is smoke weed when they hang out. I make myself look so stupid when I do marijuana, I can't talk right, I become antisocial which leads to me sitting there over-analyzing everything about me and the way my friends view me or stuff like that. I'd even have trouble just passing a blunt because I was so nervous and I guess having anxiety attacks. Also, it makes me dumb to the the point that I would skip words like "not" in sentences when reading and have to read things multiple times to understand it. Out of nothing better to do and some change in my day to day life, I still do it when I'm alone on weekends. For awhile I would still do it all the time with my friends because I was addicted to it basically (and yes weed is addictive if you ask me, mentally at least) and every time I thought that it would change and I would feel the way everyone else felt, but that never happened.

It seems alcohol does to me what weed does to my friends.

As for darkness, it could be you just liking darkness but I'll say this, when I was depressed I would go out and just look up at the stars and think about life. I would have a nice calming feeling but now that I'm not depressed, the darkness doesn't do that for me. It makes me worried more than happy. I remember when I was depressed I said how I like the rain and gloomy weather and my sister said "it reflects your mood" and I didn't agree with that. It's kind of like why it took so long for me to quit marijuana, I can only remember the feeling that I have at that point in time and I think that every other time I will feel the same way. If that made any sense...I'm tired ha. Basically, I can't relate or understand any other feeling other than my present one. Like with marijuana, when I was sober, I would think "oh it's just weed, how bad can it really be" and every time it would be just as bad as before. Stupid me.




Are we... the same person? Everything you wrote I relate to, especially the thing about only understanding the feeling that is happening in the present. I'll feel a different feeling and then all of a sudden my whole perspective changes but I can't even relate to what I was just feeling before, it feels like it had always been that way but I just didn't realize it.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: TehGreatMutato]
    #7522136 - 10/16/07 06:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I managed to sleep, the visual hulicinations had gone, specially the closed eye visuals, but everynow and then i was getting weird audio noises. I managed to ignore it and fell asleep.

I feel like shit 2day, really bad indigiestion and i really wanna throw up, i tried to throw up and broguht up some nasty red coloured stuff.

Thats the thing, i had just under 20 grams (wet)


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    #7522632 - 10/16/07 11:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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You need to shroom at times other than when you have work in eight hours and taxes to be done.

Period.




great advice. you may have had a bad experience this time, but maybe when and if you're ready to try again, take the shrooms at a time when you dont have anything to worry about and can be completely free. no deadlines, no people to act straight in front of and no constricting setting: freedom. you're trip will go so much better this way, you can just do whatever you feel like and be goofy or contemplative; whatever suits your mood.

also 20 grams wet does not seem like much at all if these were cubes, maybe you are very sensitive to shrooms. either way, my opinion is that you shouldn't disreguard them as not for you after one bad experience. escpecially since you put so much effort into growing them. you should give them another chance at an ideal time in a good setting in my opinion. if you feel you really don't want to touch psychedelics again though, then thats your choice....


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: opensaysme]
    #7522737 - 10/16/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah mushrooms are not for everyone. i had a terrifying time once where i felt like i was lost in another world and never coming back, but when i came down it was the nicest thing ever and made me very grateful to be alive.

tripped a few times after that, the first two were a little weird but not as, and this latest time was great.

id say that if there is still interest, you should go for it. just look at whatever made your trip go bad, and try to accept it and work through it. then next time try to just go with the flow. it is harder said than done, because mushrooms can strike at that root of terrors beyond terrors, but in my experiences with myself, friends, and just reading about it. the best way to have a good experience, and get through rough spots are just to let it happen and not fight it.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: evolprim]
    #7522777 - 10/16/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

sounds like he just did too much for the first time..
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7523406 - 10/16/07 02:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, after succesfully cultivating and enjoying the rewards of my labour.

This really isnt for me. Mushrooms are just too powerfull, while i had a great first experience. And this experience has been undescribable and frightening (without being a bad trip)

I had the most relaxed chilled out coming up watching TV.

But i just get so physically tired that i really wanted to sleep and when i thought that the peak was over. And that i could sleep.

Going to sleep while still triping is unbelievable and frightening at the same time. In the absense of light, all manour of things come to life, some disturbing and some absolutly gorgeous.

Yet it is too distracting, and i had to get up as i would have went insane trying to sleep.

I know when i do manage to sleep and get up ready for work, things will be back too normal and i will have a fresh lease of life.

either when i get up, or after work, the remaining shrooms from my pf cake will be picked, hopefully to go to someone to experience.

I have 3 jars waiting to be birth, they will not be. and the 2 i just inoc'd 3 days ago.


IM going to enjoy being straight for a while.

I have spent far to much time checking my jars, fanning out my fc and misting that could have been better spent taking care of paper work etc.

Thanxs everyone for there help its been grate fun.

oh i think i may have touched on level 4

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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: anomaly420]
    #7526722 - 10/17/07 05:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Its really weird how i tripped so hard un 20 grams, even after triping the week before on 18 grams.


The other weird thing is, that the last time, i ate half of it and within 10 minutes of finishing i started tripping, and i ate it in food, then ate the rest an hour or so later and tripped harder.

This time, i ate them on there own with some water, and it took ages to kik in, bout an hour. And the peak lasted sooo much longer.

If i hadnt got so tired i would have been fine i think, about 3 hours into the trip after having great fun watching TV with no thoughts or worries enjoying the colour cycling and breathing and thinking how great the flat looks now that its totaly tidy and re arrange, i just wanted to sleep, which is unusuall cause i normally dont go to bed that early.

When i got into bed and shut my eyes it felt amazing, and there was a rush of colours, and for 5 to 10 seconds i became this aqua blue shiny form i was seeing with my eyes closed. After that disapeared it got dark and sinister, i was hearing disturbing noises and when i opened my eyes in the dark the hullucinations were very eratic.

Coincidently the shrooms were EQ growing on pf cakes.

Im currently drying my last flush for storage, about 48 grams. in my fragile state i just left my FC for a day and the caps flattened out. pick them to dry them, and .... spores everywhere, and i mean everywhere, all over the shrooms caps, on teh stakes, on the cakes, on the perlite. purple everywhere.

I need to clean in out anyway.

I got 3 cakes ready to birth, im gonna clean the FC chamber out and fruit those cakes, and dry and store the shrooms. then ill leave growing for a bit.

I was so close to just getting in from work and lobbying everything down the bin shute, thankfully when i got in from my work my girlfriend was and i felt much better.

i just found some topics on orange juice cranburry jucie and lemon juice. I am inclined to try the lemon juice shot, apparently it can intensify the trip (but this is not my reasoning, as i would just use much less shroom) but also the duration is much shorter.

I think i may try this with a really low does, say .8g dried and see what happens. If it is true and the duration is less, then i think i would preffer that.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7526756 - 10/17/07 06:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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For me, marijuana which seems to be one of everyone's favorite drugs, I can't handle at all. I get anxious and paranoid etc. Out of curiousity, how much did you take?



Yea same thing, EVERYONE i know loves marijuana but all it does to me is make me super paranoid and weirded out. I hate that when you get to know someone who does drugs you almost always start with smoking a bowl with them, that just fucks everything up for me.

As far as the darkness thing and depression. I really see no relavence, just because i like something that people think is a negative thing does that mean my whole attitude towards life is negative? Maybe i like the darkness because its calming. I hate it when the doctors "know best",
what i was told a few days ago... "some people need meds and cant help what they have, i have high blood pressure and take meds, i dont want to but i do. Your depressed and have to take pills to not be depressed" Getting fucking sick of "medical professionals"




Yeah man, I can't even hang out with a lot of my friends because all they do is smoke weed when they hang out. I make myself look so stupid when I do marijuana, I can't talk right, I become antisocial which leads to me sitting there over-analyzing everything about me and the way my friends view me or stuff like that. I'd even have trouble just passing a blunt because I was so nervous and I guess having anxiety attacks. Also, it makes me dumb to the the point that I would skip words like "not" in sentences when reading and have to read things multiple times to understand it. Out of nothing better to do and some change in my day to day life, I still do it when I'm alone on weekends. For awhile I would still do it all the time with my friends because I was addicted to it basically (and yes weed is addictive if you ask me, mentally at least) and every time I thought that it would change and I would feel the way everyone else felt, but that never happened.

It seems alcohol does to me what weed does to my friends.

As for darkness, it could be you just liking darkness but I'll say this, when I was depressed I would go out and just look up at the stars and think about life. I would have a nice calming feeling but now that I'm not depressed, the darkness doesn't do that for me. It makes me worried more than happy. I remember when I was depressed I said how I like the rain and gloomy weather and my sister said "it reflects your mood" and I didn't agree with that. It's kind of like why it took so long for me to quit marijuana, I can only remember the feeling that I have at that point in time and I think that every other time I will feel the same way. If that made any sense...I'm tired ha. Basically, I can't relate or understand any other feeling other than my present one. Like with marijuana, when I was sober, I would think "oh it's just weed, how bad can it really be" and every time it would be just as bad as before. Stupid me.




Are we... the same person? Everything you wrote I relate to, especially the thing about only understanding the feeling that is happening in the present. I'll feel a different feeling and then all of a sudden my whole perspective changes but I can't even relate to what I was just feeling before, it feels like it had always been that way but I just didn't realize it.




i feel exactly the same, when i smoke weed, BirdsIView and Eternal Cowabunga
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7526764 - 10/17/07 06:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

dude one Q.



if mushrooms are not for you....

then why did you make an account and post on a magic mushroom site. and why do you continue to post when you have already come to the conclusion?

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Re: i will try another time :) [Re: pong]
    #7526781 - 10/17/07 06:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I have been here for a good few months, grown some shrooms and triped once before which was good.

I started this topic while i was still triping pretty hard and after too while i was still a little fragile, to keep myself busy and thankyou to everyone who posted, u all kept me sane.

Shrooms may not be for me, but i think it would be a shame to just pack up and leave after just 1 bad experience. This site is about many other things too, there are plenty people that dont do shrooms here. TI know of someone here that grows them but not take them, just does it as a hobby.

This site has many things to offer and this is why i still post, i have learned alot and well, why not just stick around and help other people out until i decide what i want to do.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: TehGreatMutato]
    #7526823 - 10/17/07 07:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'd give it another try at a better time

make sure the next day is completely free (it helps you to relax when you know you can spend the entire next day slowly recovering. ). make sure you're very well rested, eat light and healthy a few hours ahead of time.

trip with a friend, be sure there's no one coming by and do your best to ensure a completely stable environment for the trip (no buzz kills, or issues to worry you while tripping. anxiety will ruin a trip).

I've had aches before, it was usually because I was stressed or paranoid because my environment wasn't suitable.

shrooms are strong. to enjoy them, in my opinion you should make careful plans to make sure you have the right conditions.
going camping in the middle of nowhere and tripping late night to early morning (take a solid nap earlier in the day) for example is always fun.

just my opinion, I used to trip shrooms quite a bit, but haven't in several years. I'm looking forward to trying them again in 3 or 4 weeks (I'd guess).

anyway it's not for everyone, but it sounds like your conditions weren't quite right. I'd have had a tough trip in the conditions you describe too I think.


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Re: i will try another time :) [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7526836 - 10/17/07 07:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i had no idea you were tripping when you made the post. 


well that sort of answers my question to why you made the post in the first place

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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7526937 - 10/17/07 08:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Its really weird how i tripped so hard un 20 grams, even after triping the week before on 18 grams.





My most intense trip ever was from 2 and a bit grams of EQs grown from PF cakes.  I was absolutely paralyzed, my mind being ravaged while I lay helpless on a crowded beach. 

Potency varies A LOT.  I had eaten up to 6 grams before and never had that happen to me. 

Just take it slow, and don't trip when you have to work in the morning.

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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7526947 - 10/17/07 08:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I made some pretty goddamn embarrassing posts on this forum a while ago in the throes of a bad trip. I deleted them when I got over it.

A bad trip should not be taken as a sign it's time to stop, it's a sign there's something wrong in your mindset or preparation and should approach it differently next time. In this case, I think the problems with your preparation are clear as day. Next time you shroom, make sure you don't have anything to do the next day, so you can trip with a clear conscience (a fantastic feeling, believe it or not) and relax & recover in peace. This simple matter of timing will affect the nature of your trip more than your dosage.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7530232 - 10/18/07 06:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

anyway to get rid of the tiredness, about 3 hours into the trip i was absolutly knackered, i felt like i would just fall asleep, but ofcoarse the bright colours and imagery kept me awake.

If i was full of energy i would have quite happily been awake till when it ended (5am) cause i didnt really have to be up until 1pm

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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7530512 - 10/18/07 09:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

My bf was telling me about a time when he was tripping with some random chick who he didn't know too well. All of sudden she started freaking out because she had 2 papers due the next day and a final. He ended up driving her to school while he was peaking cause she was freaking out so badly.

1. Definitely don't trip if you have something to do the next day. Even if it's going to be a while after the trip is supposed to end. You never know how longs it's going to last, how long it will take you to fall asleep, etc.

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    #7530574 - 10/18/07 09:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Over the years I have become extraordinarily sensitive to mushrooms.

0.75-1.5mg psilocybin - enhanced reality
1.5-3mg psilocybin - moderate trip
3-6mg psilocybin - intense trip (often overwhelming)
6-12mg psilocybin - overwhelming heavy trip

I need 2-4 times less than most people.

Maybe the same is true for you also, perhaps it simply was too much. But then again, perhaps you're right and its just not for you. Sorry to hear you had such a hard time. I'd say don't do anything rash and just let some time pass.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: Asante]
    #7530590 - 10/18/07 09:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think I am hypersensitive to them as well .. I get a great trip off of less than 1 gram dried


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    #7530638 - 10/18/07 09:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah tiredness can really ruin a trip. Be well rested.


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    #7532411 - 10/18/07 06:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well the day after I felt really bad. not just feeling sick but I felt something had changes and I got quite scared. by night time I stared feeling btter.

the next day I felt back to normal.

and 2day I feel fucking great

I have had some time to reflect and I mostly remember the good things about the trip.

I had some good news yesterday too. buut no need to go into that.

I.ve got 2 days off so I'm off the our recording studio to work on a project. I an playing drums to some acoustic guitar songs that we are working into a full production. with bass electricc guitar vocals and other thingd.

2morow I will be working on bass lines.

I know it may be a bit early. but since I'm feeling so good, and I'm going to be kept real busy playing and working with cool equipment likedelays and fx units I think it would be a shame to miss an opertunity to trip on a music project.

were doing it off our own backs theres no deadlines, nothing to worry about. we just get on and letit flow.

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Re: I feel really good [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7532483 - 10/18/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

good show
draw up them memorys and crtystelise them in a solid groove


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me *DELETED* [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7533120 - 10/18/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #7533128 - 10/18/07 09:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)


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veda_sticks said:
i had acid once it was very mild acid,was ok. closed eye visuals were awesm very 3d.

to be honest im really not interested in hullucinogens anymore.

some weed would be really nice though




This is me being preachy, but weed seems to be worse to most people in the long run because it is so complacent and nihilistic. It makes me sad when people opt it over psychedelics because it is really more of a narcotic escape than a real positive force in many people's life.

Personally, I have a very difficult time with mushrooms. I value doing them and I think they are amazing, but they generally do not treat me lightly. I can get very scared and confused on them which always makes me apprehensive.

However, I have had some incredibly transforming and even enjoyable experiences on acid and san pedro. 8 times out of 10 I would choose one of those over mushrooms just because they are a better fit for me. I also feel LSD is more profoundly mind expansive and higher signal to noise. Until you've got a decent amount of that stuff you generally don't know the enlightening things psychedelics are capable of. Also, mushrooms generally create a more panicy, weird, confusing and disorienting picture of psychedlics which is not true across the board. I usually don't suggest people start out with them because IMO they are one of the most advanced trips.

My two cents.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #7533724 - 10/19/07 12:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I usually learn a lot more from my mushroom experiences than LSD... for me, LSD is more of a good time (albeit still very psychedelic) than shrooms, easier to handle, easier to control, easier to swallow. Mushrooms are much harder to have fun on (and more likely to give me an unpleasant or depressing trip) but have always taught me far more. Like you, they usually make me anxious or fearful, but this often leads to a confrontation with personal issues, or a drastic shift of my frame of reference, which acid has potential for but projects in a very different, less reliable way. Nausea usually becomes a big problem for me too, on most trips there's at least a few minutes of thrashing about while I struggle to cope with a nausea that is not entirely physical, not entirely psychosomatic, but entirely unbearable. This is a much bigger problem for me on dried or just plain old mushies. I guess these chemicals affect everyone differently. I really need to try san pedro.

Weed is psychedelic, but you simply can't consider it on the same level as other psychedelics. It's got too many side effects that are way more pronounced than the trip itself, and they are mostly very nice side effects. Personally I feel like weed is a great way to get somebody in the psychedelic mindset before they take the plunge into something more mentally intense like shrooms or acid.


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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7533772 - 10/19/07 12:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

First to the mj bashers on this thread (j/k), I understand what you are saying, yet respectfully disagree. It strikes out at me because in a way I used to experience the exact same thing. In fact, I would try to never be around other people when I used for the same reasons. Once in college, however, things changed. When I was with people I trusted, and was able to slow down, things worked out. I guess 'slow down' is the key, since a lot of what you describe is anxiety related. If your force yourself to slow down and 'go with the flow' then things sort of work themselves out. By slow I don't mean stupid, just slow and methodical. You can think through very complex and deep things in this same manner.

As far as to the OP, just give things time and live and let live/die. Whatever you choose to do is fine, just make sure it is a sincere choice once all the noise has settled. I say this because I have had the exact same ultimatums before, which I never followed through on. However, I have also gone many years with no substances. So there isn't a wrong choice, just valid/invalid reasons.


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