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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#7526947 - 10/17/07 08:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I made some pretty goddamn embarrassing posts on this forum a while ago in the throes of a bad trip. I deleted them when I got over it.
A bad trip should not be taken as a sign it's time to stop, it's a sign there's something wrong in your mindset or preparation and should approach it differently next time. In this case, I think the problems with your preparation are clear as day. Next time you shroom, make sure you don't have anything to do the next day, so you can trip with a clear conscience (a fantastic feeling, believe it or not) and relax & recover in peace. This simple matter of timing will affect the nature of your trip more than your dosage.
Edited by Tchan909 (10/17/07 08:55 AM)
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veda_sticks
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anyway to get rid of the tiredness, about 3 hours into the trip i was absolutly knackered, i felt like i would just fall asleep, but ofcoarse the bright colours and imagery kept me awake.
If i was full of energy i would have quite happily been awake till when it ended (5am) cause i didnt really have to be up until 1pm
when i tried to go to bed was when it started going sour
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
#7530512 - 10/18/07 09:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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My bf was telling me about a time when he was tripping with some random chick who he didn't know too well. All of sudden she started freaking out because she had 2 papers due the next day and a final. He ended up driving her to school while he was peaking cause she was freaking out so badly.
1. Definitely don't trip if you have something to do the next day. Even if it's going to be a while after the trip is supposed to end. You never know how longs it's going to last, how long it will take you to fall asleep, etc.
2. Also, it's nice to trip with a friend, someone you trust.
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
#7530574 - 10/18/07 09:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Over the years I have become extraordinarily sensitive to mushrooms.
0.75-1.5mg psilocybin - enhanced reality 1.5-3mg psilocybin - moderate trip 3-6mg psilocybin - intense trip (often overwhelming) 6-12mg psilocybin - overwhelming heavy trip
I need 2-4 times less than most people.
Maybe the same is true for you also, perhaps it simply was too much. But then again, perhaps you're right and its just not for you. Sorry to hear you had such a hard time. I'd say don't do anything rash and just let some time pass.
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: Asante]
#7530590 - 10/18/07 09:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think I am hypersensitive to them as well .. I get a great trip off of less than 1 gram dried
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
#7530638 - 10/18/07 09:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah tiredness can really ruin a trip. Be well rested.
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well the day after I felt really bad. not just feeling sick but I felt something had changes and I got quite scared. by night time I stared feeling btter.
the next day I felt back to normal.
and 2day I feel fucking great
I have had some time to reflect and I mostly remember the good things about the trip.
I had some good news yesterday too. buut no need to go into that.
I.ve got 2 days off so I'm off the our recording studio to work on a project. I an playing drums to some acoustic guitar songs that we are working into a full production. with bass electricc guitar vocals and other thingd.
2morow I will be working on bass lines.
I know it may be a bit early. but since I'm feeling so good, and I'm going to be kept real busy playing and working with cool equipment likedelays and fx units I think it would be a shame to miss an opertunity to trip on a music project.
were doing it off our own backs theres no deadlines, nothing to worry about. we just get on and letit flow.
this time though I will start really low. and wait longer.
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good show draw up them memorys and crtystelise them in a solid groove
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me *DELETED* [Re: veda_sticks]
#7533120 - 10/18/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Post deleted by Divided_SkyReason for deletion: posted twice
-------------------- 1. "After an hour I wasn't feeling anything so I decided to take another..." 2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..." 3. "I had to be real quiet because my parents were asleep upstairs..."
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: Divided_Sky]
#7533128 - 10/18/07 09:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
veda_sticks said: i had acid once it was very mild acid,was ok. closed eye visuals were awesm very 3d.
to be honest im really not interested in hullucinogens anymore.
some weed would be really nice though
This is me being preachy, but weed seems to be worse to most people in the long run because it is so complacent and nihilistic. It makes me sad when people opt it over psychedelics because it is really more of a narcotic escape than a real positive force in many people's life.
Personally, I have a very difficult time with mushrooms. I value doing them and I think they are amazing, but they generally do not treat me lightly. I can get very scared and confused on them which always makes me apprehensive.
However, I have had some incredibly transforming and even enjoyable experiences on acid and san pedro. 8 times out of 10 I would choose one of those over mushrooms just because they are a better fit for me. I also feel LSD is more profoundly mind expansive and higher signal to noise. Until you've got a decent amount of that stuff you generally don't know the enlightening things psychedelics are capable of. Also, mushrooms generally create a more panicy, weird, confusing and disorienting picture of psychedlics which is not true across the board. I usually don't suggest people start out with them because IMO they are one of the most advanced trips.
My two cents.
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: Divided_Sky]
#7533724 - 10/19/07 12:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I usually learn a lot more from my mushroom experiences than LSD... for me, LSD is more of a good time (albeit still very psychedelic) than shrooms, easier to handle, easier to control, easier to swallow. Mushrooms are much harder to have fun on (and more likely to give me an unpleasant or depressing trip) but have always taught me far more. Like you, they usually make me anxious or fearful, but this often leads to a confrontation with personal issues, or a drastic shift of my frame of reference, which acid has potential for but projects in a very different, less reliable way. Nausea usually becomes a big problem for me too, on most trips there's at least a few minutes of thrashing about while I struggle to cope with a nausea that is not entirely physical, not entirely psychosomatic, but entirely unbearable. This is a much bigger problem for me on dried or just plain old mushies. I guess these chemicals affect everyone differently. I really need to try san pedro.
Weed is psychedelic, but you simply can't consider it on the same level as other psychedelics. It's got too many side effects that are way more pronounced than the trip itself, and they are mostly very nice side effects. Personally I feel like weed is a great way to get somebody in the psychedelic mindset before they take the plunge into something more mentally intense like shrooms or acid.
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Edited by Tchan909 (10/19/07 12:26 AM)
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First to the mj bashers on this thread (j/k), I understand what you are saying, yet respectfully disagree. It strikes out at me because in a way I used to experience the exact same thing. In fact, I would try to never be around other people when I used for the same reasons. Once in college, however, things changed. When I was with people I trusted, and was able to slow down, things worked out. I guess 'slow down' is the key, since a lot of what you describe is anxiety related. If your force yourself to slow down and 'go with the flow' then things sort of work themselves out. By slow I don't mean stupid, just slow and methodical. You can think through very complex and deep things in this same manner.
As far as to the OP, just give things time and live and let live/die. Whatever you choose to do is fine, just make sure it is a sincere choice once all the noise has settled. I say this because I have had the exact same ultimatums before, which I never followed through on. However, I have also gone many years with no substances. So there isn't a wrong choice, just valid/invalid reasons.
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