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Glad you gave things a shot! Knowing they're not the thing for you is better than never having tried them at all. At least you learned something new, both from the cultivating and from the consumption.
May your life take you everywhere you want to go!
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You need to shroom at times other than when you have work in eight hours and taxes to be done.
Period.
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I don't even remember the word used to describe the frequent user... something like juggernaught
Maybe my subnic but good enough anyway. 
Don't let salvia scare you from shrooms. You won't get a salvia experience on a shroom time or a shroom experience on a salvia time.
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I had a similar experience where I got a horrid headache and fatigue during what should've been the best part of the trip. I think it has something to do with my severe allergy to mold and yeast, which are also fungi. In fact, mold causes me to see spots before my eyes, tracers, and have basically the same fatigue as shrooms did.
The solution? I tried a low dose of only 1-1.5 grams (ground up in chocolate for improved digestion) and felt much better. Still had some enjoyable visuals and the fun body high, too.
Maybe shrooms aren't right for you...they're certainly not for everyone, which is okay. They're not my drug of choice, but I'll still take them if offered!
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Tchan909 said: You need to shroom at times other than when you have work in eight hours and taxes to be done.
Period.
Yeah, very good point. Can't take shrooms anytime, do it when it sounds best, not when you're just bored and have nothing better to do. I did them because I was bored once and sure it brought something new and entertaining but much less of an experience than I was hoping for. Also, doing it with others can make it a much better time as long as they are someone who's company you enjoy.
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: BirdsIView]
#7521752 - 10/15/07 11:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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For me, marijuana which seems to be one of everyone's favorite drugs, I can't handle at all. I get anxious and paranoid etc. Out of curiousity, how much did you take?
Yea same thing, EVERYONE i know loves marijuana but all it does to me is make me super paranoid and weirded out. I hate that when you get to know someone who does drugs you almost always start with smoking a bowl with them, that just fucks everything up for me.
As far as the darkness thing and depression. I really see no relavence, just because i like something that people think is a negative thing does that mean my whole attitude towards life is negative? Maybe i like the darkness because its calming. I hate it when the doctors "know best", what i was told a few days ago... "some people need meds and cant help what they have, i have high blood pressure and take meds, i dont want to but i do. Your depressed and have to take pills to not be depressed" Getting fucking sick of "medical professionals"
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: The_Bomb]
#7521835 - 10/16/07 12:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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The_Bomb said:
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BirdsIView said:
For me, marijuana which seems to be one of everyone's favorite drugs, I can't handle at all. I get anxious and paranoid etc. Out of curiousity, how much did you take?
Yea same thing, EVERYONE i know loves marijuana but all it does to me is make me super paranoid and weirded out. I hate that when you get to know someone who does drugs you almost always start with smoking a bowl with them, that just fucks everything up for me.
As far as the darkness thing and depression. I really see no relavence, just because i like something that people think is a negative thing does that mean my whole attitude towards life is negative? Maybe i like the darkness because its calming. I hate it when the doctors "know best", what i was told a few days ago... "some people need meds and cant help what they have, i have high blood pressure and take meds, i dont want to but i do. Your depressed and have to take pills to not be depressed" Getting fucking sick of "medical professionals"
Yeah man, I can't even hang out with a lot of my friends because all they do is smoke weed when they hang out. I make myself look so stupid when I do marijuana, I can't talk right, I become antisocial which leads to me sitting there over-analyzing everything about me and the way my friends view me or stuff like that. I'd even have trouble just passing a blunt because I was so nervous and I guess having anxiety attacks. Also, it makes me dumb to the the point that I would skip words like "not" in sentences when reading and have to read things multiple times to understand it. Out of nothing better to do and some change in my day to day life, I still do it when I'm alone on weekends. For awhile I would still do it all the time with my friends because I was addicted to it basically (and yes weed is addictive if you ask me, mentally at least) and every time I thought that it would change and I would feel the way everyone else felt, but that never happened.
It seems alcohol does to me what weed does to my friends.
As for darkness, it could be you just liking darkness but I'll say this, when I was depressed I would go out and just look up at the stars and think about life. I would have a nice calming feeling but now that I'm not depressed, the darkness doesn't do that for me. It makes me worried more than happy. I remember when I was depressed I said how I like the rain and gloomy weather and my sister said "it reflects your mood" and I didn't agree with that. It's kind of like why it took so long for me to quit marijuana, I can only remember the feeling that I have at that point in time and I think that every other time I will feel the same way. If that made any sense...I'm tired ha. Basically, I can't relate or understand any other feeling other than my present one. Like with marijuana, when I was sober, I would think "oh it's just weed, how bad can it really be" and every time it would be just as bad as before. Stupid me.
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: BirdsIView]
#7522033 - 10/16/07 03:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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BirdsIView said:
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The_Bomb said:
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BirdsIView said:
For me, marijuana which seems to be one of everyone's favorite drugs, I can't handle at all. I get anxious and paranoid etc. Out of curiousity, how much did you take?
Yea same thing, EVERYONE i know loves marijuana but all it does to me is make me super paranoid and weirded out. I hate that when you get to know someone who does drugs you almost always start with smoking a bowl with them, that just fucks everything up for me.
As far as the darkness thing and depression. I really see no relavence, just because i like something that people think is a negative thing does that mean my whole attitude towards life is negative? Maybe i like the darkness because its calming. I hate it when the doctors "know best", what i was told a few days ago... "some people need meds and cant help what they have, i have high blood pressure and take meds, i dont want to but i do. Your depressed and have to take pills to not be depressed" Getting fucking sick of "medical professionals"
Yeah man, I can't even hang out with a lot of my friends because all they do is smoke weed when they hang out. I make myself look so stupid when I do marijuana, I can't talk right, I become antisocial which leads to me sitting there over-analyzing everything about me and the way my friends view me or stuff like that. I'd even have trouble just passing a blunt because I was so nervous and I guess having anxiety attacks. Also, it makes me dumb to the the point that I would skip words like "not" in sentences when reading and have to read things multiple times to understand it. Out of nothing better to do and some change in my day to day life, I still do it when I'm alone on weekends. For awhile I would still do it all the time with my friends because I was addicted to it basically (and yes weed is addictive if you ask me, mentally at least) and every time I thought that it would change and I would feel the way everyone else felt, but that never happened.
It seems alcohol does to me what weed does to my friends.
As for darkness, it could be you just liking darkness but I'll say this, when I was depressed I would go out and just look up at the stars and think about life. I would have a nice calming feeling but now that I'm not depressed, the darkness doesn't do that for me. It makes me worried more than happy. I remember when I was depressed I said how I like the rain and gloomy weather and my sister said "it reflects your mood" and I didn't agree with that. It's kind of like why it took so long for me to quit marijuana, I can only remember the feeling that I have at that point in time and I think that every other time I will feel the same way. If that made any sense...I'm tired ha. Basically, I can't relate or understand any other feeling other than my present one. Like with marijuana, when I was sober, I would think "oh it's just weed, how bad can it really be" and every time it would be just as bad as before. Stupid me.
Are we... the same person? Everything you wrote I relate to, especially the thing about only understanding the feeling that is happening in the present. I'll feel a different feeling and then all of a sudden my whole perspective changes but I can't even relate to what I was just feeling before, it feels like it had always been that way but I just didn't realize it.
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I managed to sleep, the visual hulicinations had gone, specially the closed eye visuals, but everynow and then i was getting weird audio noises. I managed to ignore it and fell asleep.
I feel like shit 2day, really bad indigiestion and i really wanna throw up, i tried to throw up and broguht up some nasty red coloured stuff.
Thats the thing, i had just under 20 grams (wet)
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Tchan909 said: You need to shroom at times other than when you have work in eight hours and taxes to be done.
Period.
great advice. you may have had a bad experience this time, but maybe when and if you're ready to try again, take the shrooms at a time when you dont have anything to worry about and can be completely free. no deadlines, no people to act straight in front of and no constricting setting: freedom. you're trip will go so much better this way, you can just do whatever you feel like and be goofy or contemplative; whatever suits your mood.
also 20 grams wet does not seem like much at all if these were cubes, maybe you are very sensitive to shrooms. either way, my opinion is that you shouldn't disreguard them as not for you after one bad experience. escpecially since you put so much effort into growing them. you should give them another chance at an ideal time in a good setting in my opinion. if you feel you really don't want to touch psychedelics again though, then thats your choice....
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: opensaysme]
#7522737 - 10/16/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah mushrooms are not for everyone. i had a terrifying time once where i felt like i was lost in another world and never coming back, but when i came down it was the nicest thing ever and made me very grateful to be alive.
tripped a few times after that, the first two were a little weird but not as, and this latest time was great.
id say that if there is still interest, you should go for it. just look at whatever made your trip go bad, and try to accept it and work through it. then next time try to just go with the flow. it is harder said than done, because mushrooms can strike at that root of terrors beyond terrors, but in my experiences with myself, friends, and just reading about it. the best way to have a good experience, and get through rough spots are just to let it happen and not fight it.
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: evolprim]
#7522777 - 10/16/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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sounds like he just did too much for the first time.. you should have started small and worked up going in head first like you did .. its going to hurt ..
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
#7523406 - 10/16/07 02:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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veda_sticks said: Well, after succesfully cultivating and enjoying the rewards of my labour.
This really isnt for me. Mushrooms are just too powerfull, while i had a great first experience. And this experience has been undescribable and frightening (without being a bad trip)
I had the most relaxed chilled out coming up watching TV.
But i just get so physically tired that i really wanted to sleep and when i thought that the peak was over. And that i could sleep.
Going to sleep while still triping is unbelievable and frightening at the same time. In the absense of light, all manour of things come to life, some disturbing and some absolutly gorgeous.
Yet it is too distracting, and i had to get up as i would have went insane trying to sleep.
I know when i do manage to sleep and get up ready for work, things will be back too normal and i will have a fresh lease of life.
either when i get up, or after work, the remaining shrooms from my pf cake will be picked, hopefully to go to someone to experience.
I have 3 jars waiting to be birth, they will not be. and the 2 i just inoc'd 3 days ago.
IM going to enjoy being straight for a while.
I have spent far to much time checking my jars, fanning out my fc and misting that could have been better spent taking care of paper work etc.
Thanxs everyone for there help its been grate fun.
oh i think i may have touched on level 4
cant wait till i can sleep!
Pussy.
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: anomaly420]
#7526722 - 10/17/07 05:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its really weird how i tripped so hard un 20 grams, even after triping the week before on 18 grams.
The other weird thing is, that the last time, i ate half of it and within 10 minutes of finishing i started tripping, and i ate it in food, then ate the rest an hour or so later and tripped harder.
This time, i ate them on there own with some water, and it took ages to kik in, bout an hour. And the peak lasted sooo much longer.
If i hadnt got so tired i would have been fine i think, about 3 hours into the trip after having great fun watching TV with no thoughts or worries enjoying the colour cycling and breathing and thinking how great the flat looks now that its totaly tidy and re arrange, i just wanted to sleep, which is unusuall cause i normally dont go to bed that early.
When i got into bed and shut my eyes it felt amazing, and there was a rush of colours, and for 5 to 10 seconds i became this aqua blue shiny form i was seeing with my eyes closed. After that disapeared it got dark and sinister, i was hearing disturbing noises and when i opened my eyes in the dark the hullucinations were very eratic.
Coincidently the shrooms were EQ growing on pf cakes.
Im currently drying my last flush for storage, about 48 grams. in my fragile state i just left my FC for a day and the caps flattened out. pick them to dry them, and .... spores everywhere, and i mean everywhere, all over the shrooms caps, on teh stakes, on the cakes, on the perlite. purple everywhere.
I need to clean in out anyway.
I got 3 cakes ready to birth, im gonna clean the FC chamber out and fruit those cakes, and dry and store the shrooms. then ill leave growing for a bit.
I was so close to just getting in from work and lobbying everything down the bin shute, thankfully when i got in from my work my girlfriend was and i felt much better.
i just found some topics on orange juice cranburry jucie and lemon juice. I am inclined to try the lemon juice shot, apparently it can intensify the trip (but this is not my reasoning, as i would just use much less shroom) but also the duration is much shorter.
I think i may try this with a really low does, say .8g dried and see what happens. If it is true and the duration is less, then i think i would preffer that.
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Edited by veda_sticks (10/17/07 06:06 AM)
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epilectric
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EternalCowabunga said:
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BirdsIView said:
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The_Bomb said:
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BirdsIView said:
For me, marijuana which seems to be one of everyone's favorite drugs, I can't handle at all. I get anxious and paranoid etc. Out of curiousity, how much did you take?
Yea same thing, EVERYONE i know loves marijuana but all it does to me is make me super paranoid and weirded out. I hate that when you get to know someone who does drugs you almost always start with smoking a bowl with them, that just fucks everything up for me.
As far as the darkness thing and depression. I really see no relavence, just because i like something that people think is a negative thing does that mean my whole attitude towards life is negative? Maybe i like the darkness because its calming. I hate it when the doctors "know best", what i was told a few days ago... "some people need meds and cant help what they have, i have high blood pressure and take meds, i dont want to but i do. Your depressed and have to take pills to not be depressed" Getting fucking sick of "medical professionals"
Yeah man, I can't even hang out with a lot of my friends because all they do is smoke weed when they hang out. I make myself look so stupid when I do marijuana, I can't talk right, I become antisocial which leads to me sitting there over-analyzing everything about me and the way my friends view me or stuff like that. I'd even have trouble just passing a blunt because I was so nervous and I guess having anxiety attacks. Also, it makes me dumb to the the point that I would skip words like "not" in sentences when reading and have to read things multiple times to understand it. Out of nothing better to do and some change in my day to day life, I still do it when I'm alone on weekends. For awhile I would still do it all the time with my friends because I was addicted to it basically (and yes weed is addictive if you ask me, mentally at least) and every time I thought that it would change and I would feel the way everyone else felt, but that never happened.
It seems alcohol does to me what weed does to my friends.
As for darkness, it could be you just liking darkness but I'll say this, when I was depressed I would go out and just look up at the stars and think about life. I would have a nice calming feeling but now that I'm not depressed, the darkness doesn't do that for me. It makes me worried more than happy. I remember when I was depressed I said how I like the rain and gloomy weather and my sister said "it reflects your mood" and I didn't agree with that. It's kind of like why it took so long for me to quit marijuana, I can only remember the feeling that I have at that point in time and I think that every other time I will feel the same way. If that made any sense...I'm tired ha. Basically, I can't relate or understand any other feeling other than my present one. Like with marijuana, when I was sober, I would think "oh it's just weed, how bad can it really be" and every time it would be just as bad as before. Stupid me.
Are we... the same person? Everything you wrote I relate to, especially the thing about only understanding the feeling that is happening in the present. I'll feel a different feeling and then all of a sudden my whole perspective changes but I can't even relate to what I was just feeling before, it feels like it had always been that way but I just didn't realize it.
i feel exactly the same, when i smoke weed, BirdsIView and Eternal Cowabunga good to know, that i'm not the only one
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
#7526764 - 10/17/07 06:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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dude one Q.
if mushrooms are not for you....
then why did you make an account and post on a magic mushroom site. and why do you continue to post when you have already come to the conclusion?
just some food for thought(edit).
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Re: i will try another time :) [Re: pong]
#7526781 - 10/17/07 06:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have been here for a good few months, grown some shrooms and triped once before which was good.
I started this topic while i was still triping pretty hard and after too while i was still a little fragile, to keep myself busy and thankyou to everyone who posted, u all kept me sane.
Shrooms may not be for me, but i think it would be a shame to just pack up and leave after just 1 bad experience. This site is about many other things too, there are plenty people that dont do shrooms here. TI know of someone here that grows them but not take them, just does it as a hobby.
This site has many things to offer and this is why i still post, i have learned alot and well, why not just stick around and help other people out until i decide what i want to do.
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I'd give it another try at a better time
make sure the next day is completely free (it helps you to relax when you know you can spend the entire next day slowly recovering. ). make sure you're very well rested, eat light and healthy a few hours ahead of time.
trip with a friend, be sure there's no one coming by and do your best to ensure a completely stable environment for the trip (no buzz kills, or issues to worry you while tripping. anxiety will ruin a trip).
I've had aches before, it was usually because I was stressed or paranoid because my environment wasn't suitable.
shrooms are strong. to enjoy them, in my opinion you should make careful plans to make sure you have the right conditions. going camping in the middle of nowhere and tripping late night to early morning (take a solid nap earlier in the day) for example is always fun.
just my opinion, I used to trip shrooms quite a bit, but haven't in several years. I'm looking forward to trying them again in 3 or 4 weeks (I'd guess).
anyway it's not for everyone, but it sounds like your conditions weren't quite right. I'd have had a tough trip in the conditions you describe too I think.
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Re: i will try another time :) [Re: veda_sticks]
#7526836 - 10/17/07 07:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i had no idea you were tripping when you made the post.
well that sort of answers my question to why you made the post in the first place
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Re: Mushrooms are just not for me [Re: veda_sticks]
#7526937 - 10/17/07 08:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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veda_sticks said: Its really weird how i tripped so hard un 20 grams, even after triping the week before on 18 grams.
My most intense trip ever was from 2 and a bit grams of EQs grown from PF cakes. I was absolutely paralyzed, my mind being ravaged while I lay helpless on a crowded beach.
Potency varies A LOT. I had eaten up to 6 grams before and never had that happen to me.
Just take it slow, and don't trip when you have to work in the morning.
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