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Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR]
#7520712 - 10/15/07 07:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana October 15, 2007 - salem-news.com
(PORTLAND, Ore.) - Portland, Oregon could be the next major U.S. city to legalize the possession of small amounts of marijuana. Measure 8's ballot caption explains that it, "Assets criminal penalty exemption for possession of marijuana in Portland."
The measure would allow possession of less than an ounce of marijuana for people over 21. Possession of less than an ounce at this time is a misdemeanor.
The ballot measure would not decriminalize pot, activist Parker Bell told reporters, it would legalize it, which means that the measure would bring commerce and money into it.
The opponents of Oregon's medical marijuana program, passed twice by voters, have been very active in recent weeks and months preparing legislation that could overturn the voter endorsed law. Police in Oregon have also been busy conducting grow raids all over the state. The DEA also moved into Oregon, bringing more pressure and scrutiny on the program. Since moving in, the federal agency has tried without success to subpoena the names and personal information of a number of OMPP patients.
It is widely suggested by anti-drug organizations that medical legalization laws are a front for proponents of total legalization. Now Bell is going to try to see what Portland voters think about exactly that, though it is not clear if it is a direct reaction to increased police intervention.
Portland would not be the first U.S. city to remove pot from the crime dockets, in fact there are about a dozen, including Oakland, Seattle and Denver, which have passed similar measures.
But in Denver, people quickly learned that their own mayor had no apparent use for it. He quickly reminded voters that marijuana was still illegal under state law, and they would still be arrested for it, in spite of the new city law.
So now you have city laws being passed that states won't recognize, and state laws being passed that the federal government doesn't recognize, as in the case of medical marijuana.
Opponents of legalization say it is a bad idea to legalize marijuana because of the message it sends to kids. Others contend that the children of peaceful people who smoke marijuana should not be denied their parents because they were arrested for possessing and smoking a natural substance people have used for thousands of years.
Petition signature collecting starts next Friday. 27,255 signatures are required by July 7th to get Measure 8 on next year's ballot.
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Re: Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR] [Re: veggie]
#7521133 - 10/15/07 09:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh shit. Just another reason to move to Portland. I'd love to get my name on that petition.
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Re: Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR] [Re: veggie]
#7521248 - 10/15/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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So we have Feds oppressing States and States oppressing Cities. What a wonderful country we live in where the voice of the people matters...
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Re: Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR] [Re: DNKYD]
#7521282 - 10/15/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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That would be pretty sweet. Every year I do counseling at a summer camp in OR. A jay on the coast would be great.
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Re: Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR] [Re: Pooter]
#7521418 - 10/15/07 10:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm sure all the portland residents can join me in saying
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Re: Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR] [Re: and0rr]
#7521428 - 10/15/07 10:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lucky lucky kiddies
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Re: Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR] [Re: veggie]
#7521534 - 10/15/07 10:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i can't wait
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Re: Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR] [Re: xjuan]
#7521716 - 10/15/07 11:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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GO PORTLAND GO!!!!!!!!!! vote for true freedom people, get your lazy asses off the couch and sign the petition!!!!
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Re: Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR] [Re: veggie]
#7521986 - 10/16/07 02:10 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
veggie said: 152007/pot_measure_101507.php]salem-news.com[/url]
Opponents of legalization say it is a bad idea to legalize marijuana because of the message it sends to kids. Others contend that the children of peaceful people who smoke marijuana should not be denied their parents because they were arrested for possessing and smoking a natural substance people have used for thousands of years.
But having establishments where people can go and get absolutely smashed sends the right message to kids. It seems that the worry should not be about the children of people who use marijuana but alcohol irresponsibly. Not to say parents should toke in front of their kids but putting a legal age on pot makes a lot more sense than keeping it illegal.
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Re: Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR] [Re: TripleTree3]
#7522020 - 10/16/07 02:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fuck the children. They're going to do stupid shit regardless of the law.
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Re: Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR] [Re: DNKYD]
#7522041 - 10/16/07 03:07 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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states have the right to govern themselves, it says that in some old document (maybe the bill of rights or the constitution,) even tho a state may legalize the beautiful plant we call cannabis, the government seems to think they have the right to over ride the voice of the state and the people in the state which they don't,
when this country was founded it was meant to be a country for the people by the people, nowa days there is no country for the people by the people there is the government which tells us people what to do, i say we say fuck the government and let the people rule this country once again, why should a plant be illegal? it shouldn't that is the long and short of it, cannabis was made illegal because of racism and money and lies,
(the money part) cannabis was the first billion dollar crop and it can be made into many things such as rope, paint, fuel, food, paper, clothing, and many many more that i don't have the time to list, the main thing it was made illegal from on the money part is because DuPont (sp?) paint company was pissed because they had a huge investment in tree farms that they used to make paper but most paper was starting to be made with cannabis more then trees so they were going to loose allot of money and they weren't about to let that happen,
(on the racism side) marijuana is the Mexican name for cannabis, and it was used instead of its rightful; name cannabis, when they voted to illegalize cannabis, because Americans were very racist towards Mexicans in that day and age because so many were migrating from Mexico (not unlike this day and age) but when they heard the word marijuana they automatically hated it because it was Mexican,
(on the lies) many lies were told about cannabis in the few months preceding the illegalization of cannabis, such as: cannabis will make young white girls lust for black males (another racist claim), that one cannabis cigarette would make you turn into a axe murderer, and many more completely ignorant claims like these were made,
if a jury were to look over these claims nowa days they would laugh there asses off over some of the ridiculous claims made when they made this miracle plant illegal, people were stupid enough to actually believe allot of this horse shit back then,
so i hope you enjoyed this little summery of why cannabis was made illegal, and please forgive me if i said something untrue or false or stupid because i am fucking drunk off my ass Right now,
and please if you liked what i have to say please give me a good rating (thats the reason its there after all) and i will gladdy return the favor
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Re: Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR] [Re: DNKYD]
#7522042 - 10/16/07 03:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Absolutely but it just boggles my mind how MJ is still illegal when alcohol is such a widely abused and dangerous substance.
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Re: Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR] [Re: TripleTree3]
#7522302 - 10/16/07 08:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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According to the Constitution we have the right to put substances in our body as we please... but why on earth would the govt. recognize the constitution?
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Re: Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR] [Re: dutchmushroom]
#7522410 - 10/16/07 09:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
dutchmushroom said: and please if you liked what i have to say please give me a good rating (thats the reason its there after all) and i will gladdy return the favor
Nice try, though.
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Re: Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR] [Re: fireworks_god]
#7522533 - 10/16/07 10:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Despite the oppression that cites are under by the states as far as being able to legalize pot, its always good to see the voice of people being heard.
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Re: Portland Will Vote to Legalize Marijuana [OR] [Re: fuckusernames]
#7522667 - 10/16/07 11:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I can't wait to see how the poll turns out.
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