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Scared to do salvia
    #7520397 - 10/15/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Okay so the last time I did salvia I was completely in the wrong set and setting. Ontop of that I was only supposed to do a very low dose and I had an unexpected 'breakthough' where I got way to high and totally wasn't prepared for it. Just to top it all off, I was with some of my friends who I thought I was trust and would be cool about it but pointed at me, laughed, and stared at me 1ft away from my face. I know it was pretty obvious to them that I was having a bad trip because they said I looked at them like I was a frightened animal but they STILL continued to point and laugh at me.

So before I did minor doses to work my way up. They were equivalent to an intense weed high. My last one I forgot who I was, where I was, how long I was there, what was going on, etc. I do take a little bit of the blame but I did several small doses before and I was confident it was only going to be a 'warm up' for the night ahead. I was wrong.

Since then I became WAY to scared to touch salvia again, for fear of having a very bad trip but I really want to have a trip for the insight. I'm getting some shrooms soon and I think they will be a good experience to prepare me for salvia (Since I'm new to psychedelics besides weed).

Anyways I really want to do salvia and I don't know what I'm looking for here but I guess some reassurance although I'm sure I'm probably not going to get that.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Serdal]
    #7520444 - 10/15/07 06:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Im also scared of salvia, but its this fear that makes me love the experience so much. Breakthroughs can be pretty difficult to deal with at the time, but (for me) its all about reflecting on what I just went through.

I wouldnt ever go into a trip wanting to get something out of it, this is too difficult to do with salvia I think. Too much shit is happening to you at one time, its just too overwhelming to try and make sense of it.

Just take the drug for what it is, a psychedelic ride. You may not not learn much about yourself but tripping is life changing in itself.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Acyl]
    #7520453 - 10/15/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Its pretty dam intense, I first tried with a pipe but got no result so I switched to a bong and put some 10x extract ontop on some ganja.

2 seconds after the bong hit I was in the Salvia demension and goddamn that place is weird!


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: pornisfun2]
    #7520472 - 10/15/07 06:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I know I will get something out of salvia even if it's just gaining a new experience. I've been researching salvia for like the past year now and only a little while ago was I finally able to get my hands on some.

What pisses me off though is that some kids in our school are trying salvia and it pisses me off how they just go and do it with no respect and expect to get to 'fucked up fun' high. I see these idiots do it and I wonder why the hell they can do it but not me!


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Serdal]
    #7520484 - 10/15/07 06:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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What pisses me off though is that some kids in our school are trying salvia and it pisses me off how they just go and do it with no respect and expect to get to 'fucked up fun' high. I see these idiots do it and I wonder why the hell they can do it but not me!





Well they probably dont take huge gravity bong hits.. im sure they hardly ever even break through.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Serdal]
    #7520494 - 10/15/07 06:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

buy some Salvia. get your mind off of it, but keep asking yourself "is this a good time?". on a day where its fitting, smoke some and be prepared. you could have the same bad trip like the last time or a glowing insightful experience. I know its said way too much, but go in with a good mindset and pleasant setting.

also, secretly dose those shitty ass friends of your with potent Salvia extract and watch them look like a frightened animal.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Limerick]
    #7520517 - 10/15/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Are you sure your friends were actually laughing in your face like that? One time a friend was tripping on salvia and he thought everyone in the group was standing around him in a circle laughing. In reality, we were just chillin a couple yards away (and he was looking at the sky most of the time anyway).


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Limerick]
    #7520518 - 10/15/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Salvia space is so weird, when I think about it sometimes I just kinda crazily laugh.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Limerick]
    #7520521 - 10/15/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I won't try anything higher than 10x,i'm fine with that :shrug:


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Serdal]
    #7520538 - 10/15/07 06:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Okay so the last time I did salvia I was completely in the wrong set and setting. Ontop of that I was only supposed to do a very low dose and I had an unexpected 'breakthough' where I got way to high and totally wasn't prepared for it. Just to top it all off, I was with some of my friends who I thought I was trust and would be cool about it but pointed at me, laughed, and stared at me 1ft away from my face. I know it was pretty obvious to them that I was having a bad trip because they said I looked at them like I was a frightened animal but they STILL continued to point and laugh at me.

So before I did minor doses to work my way up. They were equivalent to an intense weed high. My last one I forgot who I was, where I was, how long I was there, what was going on, etc. I do take a little bit of the blame but I did several small doses before and I was confident it was only going to be a 'warm up' for the night ahead. I was wrong.

Since then I became WAY to scared to touch salvia again, for fear of having a very bad trip but I really want to have a trip for the insight. I'm getting some shrooms soon and I think they will be a good experience to prepare me for salvia (Since I'm new to psychedelics besides weed).

Anyways I really want to do salvia and I don't know what I'm looking for here but I guess some reassurance although I'm sure I'm probably not going to get that.




Those guys are definitely not true friends. If my friend was terrified like that, I would try to calm him down and just keep telling him,"It's just the drug causing the intense trip, it will wear off very soon, it's going to be okay buddy."

I have a healthy respect and fear of salvia too. I have heard WAY too many horror stories of terrifying trips not to. Still, anything capable of giving such a profound experience in an alternate dimension is very enticing IMHO.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Liquid_Dimension]
    #7520551 - 10/15/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Oh I'm completely sure. They used to mess with me while I was high on cannabis(although it was only 2 people out of the group or 6). They've never been high before because of their immunities or somethin like that and they just mess with me alot even though I told them not to. After that salvia experience I told them that I'd never talk to them again if they ever messed with me on anything again. These are good friends of 4 years too.

I plan on messing with him the first time he gets high a lot as a little revenge but I would never give him salvia. First off that's just mean even if they can be an ass and second off I'd never waste my salvia on him.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Serdal]
    #7521547 - 10/15/07 10:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

First off, weed isn't a psychedelic! That should have been painfully obvious.

I know where you're coming from with your bad salvia trip. I have yet to have a happy trip. But at the same time, all of my trips have been good, you know? They're experiences not to be forgotten.

Every time I smoke it, the same trip reoccurs, again and again, exactly the same. It's too much to go into detail of the trip, but I keep meaning to post it on erowid.

Anyway, even the lightest toke will scare me now.

Balls up and give it another shot. I'm about to do the same myself, just to help me decide if I want to buy some more.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: TehGreatMutato]
    #7521568 - 10/15/07 10:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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First off, weed isn't a psychedelic! That should have been painfully obvious.





It chemically alters the way your senses translate outer world stimuli.. Its usually mild, but on really large doses it can be pretty obvious.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: TehGreatMutato]
    #7521586 - 10/15/07 10:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Salvia isn't about being happy. Salvia is a bit more honest than that.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7521939 - 10/16/07 01:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Tripity, your avatar reminds me of a portion of my last trip... It's like I am/was falling through eternity. I felt like I couldn't escape from the hell I was in.

If I stare at the center of that it's almost like I'm getting flashbacks lol.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: TehGreatMutato]
    #7522244 - 10/16/07 07:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

salvia is a brief and very strong psychedelic.
being scared of it is worth examining if you are analytical
getting into strong psychedelic experiences is not exactly entertainment, it is more of a quest.
if you have a quest, self realization, spiritual, or analytical it may suit you to go again.
otherwise, don't be ashamed of who you are or of not liking the salvia experience. it is not a measure of your humanity or virility.
shamans never fit in the middle of the bell curve of social norms.
users of salvia may fit in society well but they also are comfortable alone.
again, that really does not include the majority.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: pornisfun2]
    #7522566 - 10/16/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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2 seconds after the bong hit I was in the Salvia demension and goddamn that place is weird!




True dat nigga.

What's the highest extract everyone has smoked? 21x for me! Shit was intense.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: marshalldylan1]
    #7523837 - 10/16/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Weed is very psychedelic for me. I'm very light weight so I smoke a lot of weed. I always hallucinate (mildly) as well as most of my friends do not.

Oh I knew before I even tried it that I was probably going to hate the drug. But I do consider myself a psychonaut and I would love to enter the salvia realm for personal growth, insight, etc.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Serdal]
    #7523849 - 10/16/07 03:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Weed is in fact a mild psychedelic, look it up, it is classified as a hallucinogen.

If you have weed and mushies, don't bother with Salvia, it does not compare.

I know about 15 people who have tried salvia, and NONE of them enjoyed it, myself included.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7523896 - 10/16/07 03:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Weed is in fact a mild psychedelic, look it up, it is classified as a hallucinogen.

If you have weed and mushies, don't bother with Salvia, it does not compare.

I know about 15 people who have tried salvia, and NONE of them enjoyed it, myself included.


this might be fair to say if he was looking to use it for solely a recreational purpose...


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: AgingHippy]
    #7523906 - 10/16/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

True, you are correct. Salvia is not a rec drug.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7524037 - 10/16/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Weed is in fact a mild psychedelic, look it up, it is classified as a hallucinogen.

If you have weed and mushies, don't bother with Salvia, it does not compare.

I know about 15 people who have tried salvia, and NONE of them enjoyed it, myself included.




That's what happens when you approach salvia with the wrong intent.

Salvia is much more than a good time. I and many others love it. Play around with it just looking for a good time and you will get your ass handed to you, or nothing much at all.

Salvia can be enjoyed once you learn how. That's more of an extra benefit rather than the main point of salvia it seems. Most of the people who try it just don't know what they are doing.

Weed and shrooms are a lot more user friendly for those who are just looking for kicks.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7524344 - 10/16/07 05:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

TripityDooDaDay: what kind of mindset do you think is optimal for a Salvia experience?


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7524346 - 10/16/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Serdal, your friends sound like absolute dicks. Just wanted to say that.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Cyrone]
    #7524403 - 10/16/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

True, but really, I am too scared to get used to Salvia.

I think some people want to trip to laugh and feel good about life, that's me.

I am not interested in mind fucks, just fun and laughter.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7524407 - 10/16/07 05:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Salvia scares the crap out of me. I don't really like it, at least not my experiences with it so far. They've always been painful or negative, but not in any way that seems profound or that I can make real sense of. Just a jarring, strobing feeling deep in my skull, and a weird sense of seeing the "film strip" of reality. I'll stick with the classic psychedelics for the time being, I find myself far more able to work with them.

I think sometime in the future when my life is different, I might appreciate it better.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7524617 - 10/16/07 06:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I love salvia so damn much.

The first time I did it I was by myself and inhaled an entire bowl in one hit, a rather large bowl. I wasn't prepared at all either. I had a similar experience. I hated it when it happened, but the next day I couldn't get over how amazing it was.

So I went out and bought myself a supply and experimented until i could better cope with salvia land. I've now done it 20+ times and will do it many more times.

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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: Chemical Swirl]
    #7524665 - 10/16/07 06:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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TripityDooDaDay: what kind of mindset do you think is optimal for a Salvia experience?




One honestly full of legitimate intent and purpose is ideal imo. It's rarely used properly. I'm guilty too.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7524673 - 10/16/07 06:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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True, but really, I am too scared to get used to Salvia.

I think some people want to trip to laugh and feel good about life, that's me.

I am not interested in mind fucks, just fun and laughter.





Nothing wrong with that imo. Actually it's quite good that you recognize and understand that.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7524735 - 10/16/07 06:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think the right mindset going in is to have it be looked at as a very powerful tool of exploration. I would never even think about touching salvia just to get f-ed up.

Then again, I view mushies and cid the same way, but I know they don't rip you straight out of this reality like salvia does.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: EthericOctopuss]
    #7524851 - 10/16/07 07:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

sometimes it's fun to get fucked up on salvia. in fact, it's always fun for me. :tongue:


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: maggotz]
    #7524880 - 10/16/07 07:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

me too
we are not normal tho


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7524897 - 10/16/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:lol: if i had a hit of lsd everytime someone told i'm not normal i would have a lot of lsd.

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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: maggotz]
    #7524950 - 10/16/07 07:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I typically have a great time with salvia.. Cept for one time... The tv said my name and my buddy's name beside me... I got up, ran out of the room as fast as possible, got tackled onto a couch, and sobered up. But hey, everyone's entitled to one bad trip I suppose... LoL


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: AgingHippy]
    #7525959 - 10/16/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You cannot live in fear.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: fushock]
    #7525989 - 10/16/07 11:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You can live and die in fear very easily actually. You will probably resist though. A reaction. Energy! A commodity. lol

What are you really trying to say?


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7526114 - 10/16/07 11:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's true that the world salvia opens you up to is a very unusual one, and one that you should really be in a good mind frame for before entering. Sounds to me like your friends aren't the best type of people to be around while using such a sensitive substance. Anyone who is going to point and laugh at you while you're having a difficult time while tripping isn't someone who you want to be with, especially during such a unique experience as salvia. Go ahead and use, it again, just make sure to do it under different circumstances (alone in a secluded place, or with one or two very trustworthy friends). Good luck.


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Re: Scared to do salvia [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7526188 - 10/17/07 12:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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