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What do i need to make LSD?
#7519661 - 10/15/07 02:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im about to take chemistry at my college, how simple/hard is it?
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: cube talk]
#7519667 - 10/15/07 02:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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its not hard.. but the chemicals are HARD to come by..
There is an easy method that requires thyinol chloride wich is HARD to come by.. you make some thyinol chloride,.. Then we can talk...
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? *DELETED* [Re: cube talk]
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: cube talk]
#7519671 - 10/15/07 02:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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if ya have to ask ,
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: letsmakekill]
#7519674 - 10/15/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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a DEA license like shulgin once had
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Coaster]
#7519682 - 10/15/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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first of all, you need smarts...if your just now about to take intro level college chem, your a long way off
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: cube talk]
#7519684 - 10/15/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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 I like the idea that you'd like to make some I wish you the best of luck in your quest
But don't ask how to do it that's something you have to find out for yourself
basically, there's no super simple "tek" out there you have to know what you're doing
with that being said, it's not impossible and probably not as hard as most people would like to say but still..
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Slimz]
#7519693 - 10/15/07 02:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Slimz said: its not hard..
Could you synthesize LSD if given the proper chemicals and equipment?
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: cube talk]
#7519697 - 10/15/07 02:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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cube talk said: Im about to take chemistry at my college, how simple/hard is it?
Check out the Chem and Pharmacology forum
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Robo]
#7519698 - 10/15/07 02:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Adagio said:
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Slimz said: its not hard..
Could you synthesize LSD if given the proper chemicals and equipment?
 if you give me the proper chemicals and equipment, I could definitely get you some LSD
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Robo]
#7519707 - 10/15/07 02:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Adagio said:
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Slimz said: its not hard..
Could you synthesize LSD if given the proper chemicals and equipment?
Yes... I have studied it for a long time and have been in to organic chemistry for a while.
But of course i never would, Its just nice to know..
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Robo]
#7519715 - 10/15/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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to really make a stab at it you should have 2 semesters of chem + a lab, 2 semesters of organic chem, + 2 labs....at least
my gf thinks she would be able to given the right chemicals....shes taken those classes plus 4 semesters of biochemistry, and shes worked in a genetics lab working on an aids vaccine for the last 2 and a half years.....but getting the chemicals is tough, plus you need a fair collection of lab equipment
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: boomer q]
#7519721 - 10/15/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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forget it eh? lol
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Slimz]
#7519722 - 10/15/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can go the LSA > LSD route, theoretically. I don't know how many people have accomplished this, though.
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? *DELETED* [Re: Slimz]
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Chemy]
#7519758 - 10/15/07 02:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah sure.. i trust u lmao
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Chemy]
#7519765 - 10/15/07 02:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Where is
LSA + LOW heat and a little HCl = Lysergic acid Lysergic acid + diethylamine + thionyl chloride (thats the correct spelling) = LSD
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Slimz]
#7519771 - 10/15/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wait.. how different is a LSA trip from a LSD.
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: cube talk]
#7519781 - 10/15/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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This might interest you cube talk.
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Robo]
#7519792 - 10/15/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Slimz said: its not hard..
Could you synthesize LSD if given the proper chemicals and equipment?
It can't be much harder than baking a cake. All you have to do is mix and pour things; all you need is two hands
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Robo]
#7519794 - 10/15/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Clicked that link. Thats a killer front cover.
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: cube talk]
#7519796 - 10/15/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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cube talk said: Wait.. how different is a LSA trip from a LSD.
not as good
dont give up your dream though, if your majoring in something chemistry related just store it all in your memory, later on down the road it could come in handy
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: cube talk]
#7519801 - 10/15/07 02:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I made a thread like this a while ago, by the way, and people provided useful links: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6920613#6920613
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: JunkFood]
#7519808 - 10/15/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Look, i just want something i can control.
My first and only psychedelic to this day has been mushrooms.
And they are alarmingly weird sometimes, and other times, they are dazzling.
I want something that i can be around friends at the beach playing volleyball tripping for example.
I mean I HEARD that LSD is much more enjoyable and more consistent anyway.
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: JunkFood]
#7519831 - 10/15/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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JunkFood said: all you need is two hands
and a bit of Chem methodology know-how/lab procedure skills, and O-Chem. Some of this stuff can be dangerous if you don't know what you are doing.
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Robo]
#7519845 - 10/15/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pffft...as dangerous as what? Baking a cake? All it is is a recipe and anyone with two hands and developed coordination can mix the ingrediants, I'm sure
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: JunkFood]
#7519847 - 10/15/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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right
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Robo]
#7519853 - 10/15/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyways I don't think LSD would be a good place to start for one's first synthesis, something like MDMA might be better.
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Robo]
#7519891 - 10/15/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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The thing is: people who're knowledgable about the subject always say how it's so complicated and potentially dangerous, but no one ever gives a specific example of a step in the process that's difficult. Tell me something that'll make me go "Wow. Yeah, man, that does sound hard. How do those chemists do that?"
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Robo]
#7519905 - 10/15/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Adagio said: Anyways I don't think LSD would be a good place to start for one's first synthesis, something like MDMA might be better.
No something like simple extractions would be better to start. DMT, maybe even LSA extraction from seeds, you have to start small. Methcathinone synthysis.
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: JunkFood]
#7519922 - 10/15/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, college chem won't really help you, besides learning to make some simple substances. Let's remember the kind of experience Hoffman had. He had been working for years to make something, and only accidentally did he come upon it.
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: The_Bomb]
#7519924 - 10/15/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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The_Bomb said: No something like simple extractions would be better to start. DMT, maybe even LSA extraction from seeds, you have to start small. Methcathinone synthysis.
Sure, but extractions/alkaloid isolation and alkaloid synthesis are two completely different things. I'm talking about one's first synthesis.
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Robo]
#7519949 - 10/15/07 03:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Adagio said:
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The_Bomb said: No something like simple extractions would be better to start. DMT, maybe even LSA extraction from seeds, you have to start small. Methcathinone synthysis.
Sure, but extractions/alkaloid isolation and alkaloid synthesis are two completely different things. I'm talking about one's first synthesis.
Methcathinone.
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: Robo]
#7520339 - 10/15/07 05:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Adagio said: Anyways I don't think LSD would be a good place to start for one's first synthesis, something like MDMA might be better.
Are we talking about starting from ergotamine tartrate (common) or the total synthesis of LSD starting from indole (uncommon)?
The first would be much easier than the MDMA synth, the second not so much.
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: JunkFood]
#7520650 - 10/15/07 06:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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hey now some cakes arent all that easy
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: JunkFood]
#7520719 - 10/15/07 07:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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so you wanna make some Cid ey?
Me too! Except this is the first or so post actually pulling any real attention towards myself and the process of making the chem. From what I've read, it's NOT that hard. Getting ahold of the chems IS.
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Where is LSA + LOW heat and a little HCl = Lysergic acid Lysergic acid + diethylamine + thionyl chloride (thats the correct spelling) = LSD
You are correct EXCEPT as Wiccan_seeker put (and he/she added that EXACT statement) If you were to just "throw" those together while in an un-ananhydrouse (*anhydrouse* meaning non water molacule containing I beleive) then you will come out with 1 of 3 different substances although none of them could really hurt you at the strength of a few micrograms. I've read and almost understand everything in Uncle Festers book and it seems pretty easy/straight forward up to the pure lysergic acid part so thats not THAT hard. I guess if you slowly nudged the Lysergic acid carefully with diethylamine + thionyl chloride theory you could probably make some low grade acid (like atleast 50 % strength) without any REAL lab stuff to work with.
I look at it this way. To get the Lysergic Acid, You just need to defat the precursor, then add chloroform with methanol to the now deffated material and then when this is deccanted, you have the lysergic acid. Easy. It's not to much of a leap from lysergic acid to a diethymine imo.
I think this will prove to be one of those "ima leet hacker/acid maker and what I do is harder then what it actuall is" kinda thing. I believe in promoting (not SPACIFICALLY promoting people to research the synthasis of lsd. Think about it, a Lucy revalution! How long has it been since you've dropped? Personally Cube Talk, Get a few books on the spacific synth of it and get some different recipes to compare while your going through your course. Get all you can out of your schools programs, research what you need to make this stuff and try to five finger it when you get the first chance into the chem room as this is a gold mine in disguise 
Work hard, as will I and hopefully you'll be droppin some tabs with a logo made by cube talk or HTR.. Hypothetically though, I don't plan on making it just as much cube talk really doesnt mean to make it 
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Owsley Stanley, Bear, the greatest acid cook ever, had no formal chemistry education. He was just excellent at following directions, and stumbled upon a large quantity of a good but rare precursor chemical.
It's possible to make acid with minimal chemistry education, but you need the right equipment and the right chemicals, which are expensive and tightly regulated to make sure people like you (or the rest of us) don't get them.
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I guess if you slowly nudged the Lysergic acid carefully with diethylamine + thionyl chloride theory you could probably make some low grade acid (like atleast 50 % strength) without any REAL lab stuff to work with.
How to you figure?
Your yields will be low in almost any LSD synthesis as most require steps in which racemization is unavoidable. If you had pure lysergic acid and did the thionyl chloride + diethylamine reaction you would end up with yields just as good as any synthesis.
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: cube talk]
#7520797 - 10/15/07 07:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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cube talk said:
I want something that i can be around friends at the beach playing volleyball tripping for example.
I mean I HEARD that LSD is much more enjoyable and more consistent anyway.
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: THEBats]
#7521068 - 10/15/07 09:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Send me a PM when you guys figure it out. I'll be waiting
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: THEBats]
#7521191 - 10/15/07 09:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I want something that i can be around friends at the beach playing volleyball tripping for example.
I mean I HEARD that LSD is much more enjoyable and more consistent anyway.
wrong
Wrong why? I agree with that description.
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If there is such a thing as a "party psychedelic" it would have to be LSD. Don't take that as me telling you to take acid at parties, but it's much more conducive to social, physical activities than most other psychedelics (mushrooms definitely included).
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Re: What do i need to make LSD? [Re: JunkFood]
#7656301 - 11/19/07 06:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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JunkFood said: It can't be much harder than baking a cake. All you have to do is mix and pour things; all you need is two hands
Mixing ingredients for a cake doesn't invove toxic fumes or explosive reactions.
Try making nitroglycerin using the "Bake a cake" ideology, and tell me how successful you are.
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JunkFood why dont you FuckOff
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andyistic said: Mixing ingredients for a cake doesn't invove toxic fumes or explosive reactions. Try making nitroglycerin using the "Bake a cake" ideology, and tell me how successful you are.
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Try making nitroglycerin using the "Bake a cake" ideology, and tell me how successful you are.
I did. It wasn't much harder than that. :p
LSD would be a quantum leap from that, however.
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in my experience light doses of shrooms are the perfect party psychedelic. about 1.5 - 2 grms (varies) nice body buzz, bright colors, easy laughs. works for me.
I don't think many on this site agree with me though.
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