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TheHauntingSoul
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Do i need a pc?
#7519154 - 10/15/07 11:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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hey i was thinking of starting using the rye substrate and verm/coir casing technique but i don't have a pc. Would it be sufficient to boil them in a pot or is pc absolutely necessary?
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urayasan
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In my experience a PC is badly needed for grains. I know it seems like a pain, but it can save you a lot of trouble later on.
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Re: Do i need a pc? [Re: urayasan]
#7519476 - 10/15/07 01:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you don't have a pc and don't plan on getting one brown rice flour is your best bet.
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phillyblunts
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I steam sterilized brf my first time without any contams. I added salt to the water to raise heat.
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stxlacrosse022
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salt rises the temp for about 4 degrees. but a PC isn't a MUST but highly recommend
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Funkatron9000
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i thought salt just lowered the boiling point and freezing point of water? i just didn't think it allowed the water to actually boil at a higher temp is all. anyway, a PC gets the water to around 250 degrees at 15 psi killing anything in it's path. for anything other than a 1/2 pint or pint it is highly recomended.
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BUDDHA_702
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Grains = PC
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robanero
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Re: Do i need a pc? [Re: mushbaby]
#7520300 - 10/15/07 05:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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mushbaby said: If you don't have a PC and don't plan on getting one brown rice flour is your best bet.
I agree with Mushbaby if a PC is not really in your budget. They are expensive, but if you can afford one that is definitely the way to go.
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xaxphaanes
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Re: Do i need a pc? [Re: robanero]
#7520325 - 10/15/07 05:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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30-50 bucks isn't expensive at all look at flohoods if you want expensive lol.
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robanero
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Re: Do i need a PC? [Re: xaxphaanes]
#7520347 - 10/15/07 05:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow $30 to $50. All that I've seen have been well over a $150. Where can i get one for $30 to $50?
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BUDDHA_702
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Re: Do i need a PC? [Re: robanero]
#7520374 - 10/15/07 05:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I got 23Q PC for $80 at walmart.
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robanero
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Re: Do i need a PC? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
#7520389 - 10/15/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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BUDDHA_702 said: I got 23Q PC for $80 at walmart.
Every Day Low Price or on sale?
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BUDDHA_702
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Re: Do i need a PC? [Re: robanero]
#7520455 - 10/15/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'll check
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BUDDHA_702
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Re: Do i need a PC? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
#7520466 - 10/15/07 06:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Must have been on sale. It is now $89.87 on-line or in limited stores.
It holds 24 1/2pints or 20 pints or 7 quarts.
Edited by BUDDHA_702 (10/15/07 06:07 PM)
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Funkatron9000
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Re: Do i need a PC? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
#7520511 - 10/15/07 06:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I picked up a 23 quart PC for $99.95 after tax at a local place, (walmart was out of PC's when i looked
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xaxphaanes
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Re: Do i need a PC? [Re: robanero]
#7520585 - 10/15/07 06:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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robanero said: Wow $30 to $50. All that I've seen have been well over a $150. Where can i get one for $30 to $50?
Ebay
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robanero
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Online @ walmart looks pretty good. 20 pt jar cooker for $90 is great. Thanks for the info.
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xaxphaanes
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Re: Do i need a PC? [Re: robanero]
#7520672 - 10/15/07 06:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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those are for the mirro or whatever they are called with a regulation weight which will break (eventually) they still last a long time though you can get some pretty good ones on ebay that are all american pressure cookers for 50.00 for the cheapest which will hold 4 quart jars and will last allot longer then the mirro ones from walmart.
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TheHauntingSoul
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Re: Do i need a PC? [Re: xaxphaanes]
#7521611 - 10/15/07 11:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok well i cant get one because my family would be very suspicious of me suddenly getting a pressure cooker.... but xmas is coming up lol i could buy one for my mom for xmas and be like "its for cooking kuz we don't have one" haha.
sorry if i am going off on a tangent here i'm pretty stoned.
anyways thanks for the advice all, i will post my results later on once i get some with swims current op
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BUDDHA_702
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Now that's thinking!!!
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Blutjager
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Quote:
TheHauntingSoul said: Is pc absolutely necessary?
Yes
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veilbreaker
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Quote:
TheHauntingSoul said: ok well i cant get one because my family would be very suspicious of me suddenly getting a pressure cooker.... but xmas is coming up lol i could buy one for my mom for xmas and be like "its for cooking kuz we don't have one" haha.
That's not very nice.
Stick to BRF substrate and spawn it to bulk if you like.
Better yet, don't grow until you have your own place.
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mushbaby
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Quote:
veilbreaker said:
Better yet, don't grow until you have your own place.
Now that's the best advice on this thread!
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Mepher
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Re: Do i need a PC? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
#7526275 - 10/17/07 12:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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My local Walmart had a PC that was sold as a "pressure canner" next to the canning jars and supplies, rather than the puny little ones displayed with the pots and pans. Very nice really, considering it was only about $60. Id say go for it, if this is in your budget.
A PC is definitely a must if you want to use whole grains rather than brown rice flour. A smaller one will work, but they generally start at $30+, and the one I mentioned can do 7 quart jars at a time. If you get a PC much smaller than that, you may have to go with smaller jars, which defeats part of the purpose of using whole grains. So if you are serious about stepping up to rye/WBS/wheat/whatever, start saving your pennies, and be patient until you have a lot of them! 
But if you live with your folks, growing shrooms with any method is probably a very bad idea. First, it might mean that you are a minor. Second, it could put your parents' entire home at risk due to seizure laws in some places. Thirdly, you probably don't want them finding out, unless they happen to like shrooms too. Any level of growing might be hard to conceal if you live in someone else's house.
I'd say go play baseball or hang out with friends, or whatever, rather than growing shrooms. If you are 18+, and serious about doing some seriously questionable shit, consider securing your own dwelling first, so you don't endanger your loved ones if you happen to get chatty with the wrong dude. SOrry if I sound condascending, but you can't be too careful, plus parents and kids with shrooms/pot don't mix, ever!
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Mr Anon
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Re: Do i need a PC? [Re: Mepher]
#7526332 - 10/17/07 12:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mepher said: My local Walmart had a PC that was sold as a "pressure canner" next to the canning jars and supplies, rather than the puny little ones displayed with the pots and pans. Very nice really, considering it was only about $60. Id say go for it, if this is in your budget.
A PC is definitely a must if you want to use whole grains rather than brown rice flour. A smaller one will work, but they generally start at $30+, and the one I mentioned can do 7 quart jars at a time. If you get a PC much smaller than that, you may have to go with smaller jars, which defeats part of the purpose of using whole grains. So if you are serious about stepping up to rye/WBS/wheat/whatever, start saving your pennies, and be patient until you have a lot of them! 
But if you live with your folks, growing shrooms with any method is probably a very bad idea. First, it might mean that you are a minor. Second, it could put your parents' entire home at risk due to seizure laws in some places. Thirdly, you probably don't want them finding out, unless they happen to like shrooms too. Any level of growing might be hard to conceal if you live in someone else's house.
I'd say go play baseball or hang out with friends, or whatever, rather than growing shrooms. If you are 18+, and serious about doing some seriously questionable shit, consider securing your own dwelling first, so you don't endanger your loved ones if you happen to get chatty with the wrong dude. SOrry if I sound condascending, but you can't be too careful, plus parents and kids with shrooms/pot don't mix, ever!
Where were the canning supplies and jars??
Edited by Mr Anon (01/10/08 11:41 PM)
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Walter1496211
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Quote:
TheHauntingSoul said: ok well i cant get one because my family would be very suspicious of me suddenly getting a pressure cooker.... but xmas is coming up lol i could buy one for my mom for xmas and be like "its for cooking kuz we don't have one" haha.
sorry if i am going off on a tangent here i'm pretty stoned.
anyways thanks for the advice all, i will post my results later on once i get some with swims current op
Are you aware of how much noise a PC makes?? I am down listen grain=PC you need one. But if you live with your mom don't you think steaming ass grains at 15 PSI is going to raise suspition? Think about it steaming ass jars of grain with foil and trash. Maybe wait till you get your own place.. Just my two cents.
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Re: Do i need a PC? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
#7526403 - 10/17/07 01:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Grains = PC I agree.
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