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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: robbyberto]
    #7525353 - 10/16/07 08:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: aDoS]
    #7525411 - 10/16/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7525432 - 10/16/07 08:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I have huge problems with both sides...so I am neither.


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:drooling:GIVE ME OPIATES OR GIVE ME DEATH:drooling:


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: aDoS]
    #7525457 - 10/16/07 09:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: BrAiN]
    #7526632 - 10/17/07 04:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Maybe back in the day. There was a long-time ban on them that expired only a couple of years ago.



Wrong. If you are talking about full auto weapons, you have needed a special permit.

Wrong. If you are talking semi-auto there were several models that had certain features that were banned. An example would be folding stocks. Manufacturers merely switched to non-folding stocks.

All that has lapsed is the ban on those particular features.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7526649 - 10/17/07 04:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

> & throw you in jail for growing and possessing plants they don't like.

Please look at the number of convictions for cannabis over the last thirty years and note what president was in office during the vast majority of them. I'll give you a hint... it was Clinton... by a HUGE massive margin... more than twice the number during the Clinton years than all the other presidents (Regan, Bush and Bush) combined. You may want to rethink your claim a bit.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: aDoS]
    #7527173 - 10/17/07 10:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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liberals tend to contradict themselves. They want the government to butt out and let them live freely, but then they fight for socialist ideas. They don't want the government but they do want the government.




It's not that I disagree with you, its that I think neo-conservatives contradict themselves just as much. They say "no government," but then want to ban gay marriage, abortion, extend military campaigns all over the middle east. Its the same thing. Both sides do everything they do in the name of liberty.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: Seuss]
    #7527269 - 10/17/07 11:10 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Please look at the number of convictions for cannabis over the last thirty years and note what president was in office during the vast majority of them. I'll give you a hint... it was Clinton... by a HUGE massive margin... more than twice the number during the Clinton years than all the other presidents (Regan, Bush and Bush) combined. You may want to rethink your claim a bit.




We've had this discussion before. That simply isn't true.

If you really want me to, I can prove it to you with the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting Program statistics, but they aren't user friendly and it would take me awhile to find the tables I need and throw something together.


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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7527637 - 10/17/07 12:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thats not more government in the sense that they actually want to increase the size of bureaucracy but it is increased as a result of their policies. I guess that always applies.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7528407 - 10/17/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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aDoS said:
liberals tend to contradict themselves. They want the government to butt out and let them live freely, but then they fight for socialist ideas. They don't want the government but they do want the government.




It's not that I disagree with you, its that I think neo-conservatives contradict themselves just as much. They say "no government," but then want to ban gay marriage, abortion, extend military campaigns all over the middle east. Its the same thing. Both sides do everything they do in the name of liberty.




I don't think there is a neo-con position on abortion or homo marriage. They also don't say "no government" and they don't advocate intervention all over the Mid-East. You are lying.

This conservative (I consider Libertarian to be more conservative than Republican) loves abortion and wants homos to just shut the fuck up, they are boring me. As to intervention it becomes far less necessary when the enemy knows that you aren't afraid to use it. THAT is something the libtards will never ever figure out.

And finally, if you don't think the libtard nanny state comes without much more than fiscal strings you are seriously deluded. They WILL be telling you how to act what to eat where to go far more than real conservatives. Do not make the mistake of conflating the morality police morons with all conservatives. There is just as much morality police overlap with libs as with conservatives. At least the conservative moralists will leave you with enough money in your pocket to misbehave. Liberal moralists? Not a fucking nickel of your own.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: Seuss]
    #7528432 - 10/17/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7528456 - 10/17/07 04:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ummm not for nothing but if any of you think any gun you could ever buy would be worth more than a suicide note against government troops you are so utterly deluded that you might as well go Koscinski right now.

if you were fighting openly against a unified, popular u.s. government and you had no support other than a few other civilians with guns, yeah, you'd be dead pretty fast.

there are other scenarios where civilians might fight againt government troops and have a much better chance though.

civil war, massive unrest accompanied by defections of regular military forces, etc.

then there's the deterrent factor. even if you are a dictator, you make decisions based on risk vs. reward like everyone else. a populace that is well armed and not too keen on what you might be thinking about doing may tip the scale in your scheming.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7528460 - 10/17/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7528484 - 10/17/07 04:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

"clinton was a center to center-right president."

and bush was a center to center-left president? :smirk:

Bush gave us huge new prescription drug entitlement program, centralizing education, bigger government and Immigration Amnesty etc..............


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7528508 - 10/17/07 04:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7528519 - 10/17/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It would be a lot more effective if it weren't for the incessant bleatings of the useful idiots (their term, not mine). And in fact the two cases you cite are not failures by any means, no matter what your unrealistic expectations may have been.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7528532 - 10/17/07 04:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7528545 - 10/17/07 04:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Immigration Amnesty




The driving force behind amnesty for "illegal aliens"... in Washington anyway... is employers & corporations; not sympathy for the impoverished.




Bullshit
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huge new prescription drug entitlement program




wanted by big pharma companies




And libtards everywhere
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centralizing education




can't really dispute this one




A Kennedy program
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bigger government




fascists want big government every bit as much as Communists do.




Same thing. Scratch a lib, find a fascist.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7528575 - 10/17/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7528580 - 10/17/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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