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InvisibleKnifey Mcstab
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    #7518392 - 10/15/07 05:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hard core liberals really seem to irritate the hell out of me. Especially with their whole anti-gun stance. They seem to ***** and moan so much about the government and yet they want more government involvement in our daily lives.

The day I'm not allowed to own a gun is the day I pack my bags and move somewhere else.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
    #7518401 - 10/15/07 05:16 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

> Hard core liberals really seem to irritate the hell out of me

Extremist on both sides "irritate the hell out of me", not just hard core liberals. I've got one side installing cameras in my home and drafting me for the modern day crusades and the other side taking away my guns and spending tax money to tuck me in to bed at night.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: Seuss]
    #7518403 - 10/15/07 05:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ya, your right extremists on both sides do irritate me it's just that recently it's been the liberals.

I just hate people I think.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
    #7519018 - 10/15/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i used to be in favor of gun-control, but after this administration's trashing of the constitution, i came to understand the need for the 2nd amendment.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: Taco Chef]
    #7519089 - 10/15/07 11:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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novumorganum said:
i used to be in favor of gun-control, but after this administration's trashing of the constitution, i came to understand the need for the 2nd amendment.




Me Too!

Have you noticed the MSM doing hour specials revisting the DC sniper case? I swear they are doing it, to get people all worked up for gun control candidates.

Thomas Jefferson said, " The irony of the second ammendment is that, when you will need your guns the most is when they have been taken from you."


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
    #7519101 - 10/15/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Mandrake said:
I just hate people I think.




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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7519508 - 10/15/07 01:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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gettinjiggywithit said:
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novumorganum said:
i used to be in favor of gun-control, but after this administration's trashing of the constitution, i came to understand the need for the 2nd amendment.




Me Too!

Have you noticed the MSM doing hour specials revisting the DC sniper case? I swear they are doing it, to get people all worked up for gun control candidates.

Thomas Jefferson said, " The irony of the second ammendment is that, when you will need your guns the most is when they have been taken from you."





For realz.

The gun thing is a pandora's box that, once open, can't be closed. You could shut down every gun shop in America and the bad guys are just going to get their shit from dealers that get their shit from overseas. Then we'll be in a world of mess because no one can defend themselves.

It's like all crime. Cops barely put a DENT in the crime going on out there, but imagine how much worse it would be if there weren't any cops and there was NO FEAR of ever having to get arrested.

THe thought that MAYBE the guy inside this house has a gun is probably what keeps thousands of phychos from busting in your door.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: BrAiN]
    #7519724 - 10/15/07 02:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ummm not for nothing but if any of you think any gun you could ever buy would be worth more than a suicide note against government troops you are so utterly deluded that you might as well go Koscinski right now.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7519743 - 10/15/07 02:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think most people that are anti gun control are just talking about defending their own home and family against intruders.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: BrAiN]
    #7519777 - 10/15/07 02:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Which I can understand, but the bombastic posturing by some of the people espousing a defense against an unreasonable government is utterly absurd. They would be history. Then they would be geography.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: BrAiN]
    #7519805 - 10/15/07 02:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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BrAiN said:
I think most people that are anti gun control are just talking about defending their own home and family against intruders.




Yup! I live in a gated community with 24 hr security and yet, when a 13 year old boy waa taken at gun point from a bus stop not far from me, a bunch of moms in my subdivision went out and bought guns and have been practicing at the shooting range.

I agree with you Zap. My sister and I were talking about it the other night and it was discussed that when the Constitution was written, it was a time armed citizens could rise up against government tyranny and defeat it. Now, it would be a short lived isolated mess with the government diffusing any armed uprising quickly. If our own military turned on the government, that would be another story :lol: That will never happen either.


None the less, I posted the Jefferson quote as reminder, about a  government looking to take away your right to bare arms, being a government you would want to use them against.

The government has far to much power over us now. It was never meant to be that way though. :sad:


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7519876 - 10/15/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I agree with you Zap.






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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7520095 - 10/15/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Which I can understand, but the bombastic posturing by some of the people espousing a defense against an unreasonable government is utterly absurd. They would be history. Then they would be geography.




I disagree. The gov't has satellites but they can't cover every inch of the earth at all times and know exactly every person to target who might be a dissident. They can tap our phones. but you don't neccessarily need a phone to communicate. 300,000,000 people is a lot to tame. Not to mention any civil war going on would probably lead to other countries trying to get a piece of the action and starting to fund uprisings.

besides... I don't know if you're aware.. but assault rifles such as the m16 and AK47 are now LEGAL to own in the states as of about two years ago.

I don't think America will ever (in the near future anyways) get to a point where it needs to rebel against the gov't. I think whatever gov't we have will be smart enough to keep us at least no farther than the edge of what we'll accept.

No matter how opressed we become, we still have a pretty posh lifestyle. We're too comfortable. I don't think anything would ever happen until the average income per person drops DRAMATICALLY. It would probably take another all out world war to happen, or something else drastic, before this ever happens.

Once the middle class loses it's big screen TV's, hummers, and sex and the city.. then maybe they'll get off their asses and take action.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: BrAiN]
    #7523273 - 10/16/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
300,000,000 people is a lot to tame.




Except that about 299,900,000 are already tame.


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besides... I don't know if you're aware.. but assault rifles such as the m16 and AK47 are now LEGAL to own in the states as of about two years ago.



They have been for years.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #7523370 - 10/16/07 02:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe back in the day. There was a long-time ban on them that expired only a couple of years ago.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #7523938 - 10/16/07 03:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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BrAiN said:
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zappaisgod said:
300,000,000 people is a lot to tame.




Except that about 299,900,000 are already tame.












I just did a search under my name and BrAiN and I couldn't find this exchange. Where did it come from


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
    #7524588 - 10/16/07 06:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The day I'm not allowed to own a gun is the day I pack my bags and move somewhere else.


This is the only decent reason for passing gun control laws I have heard to date.;)


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7524982 - 10/16/07 07:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Ummm not for nothing but if any of you think any gun you could ever buy would be worth more than a suicide note against government troops you are so utterly deluded that you might as well go Koscinski right now.



Sure, but would the guys in the armed forces really shoot their own people and obey orders no matter what? In regard to the topic, while I'm not an extremist, or particularly left winged, at least the super left want to help the people with social programs even if what they're doing is misguided. I'd rather have that than a very right winged country dictating my social conduct at all times.


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: robbyberto]
    #7525182 - 10/16/07 08:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

abolish all governement, its never going to work


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Re: I'm no republican but... [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
    #7525292 - 10/16/07 08:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

liberals tend to contradict themselves. They want the government to butt out and let them live freely, but then they fight for socialist ideas. They don't want the government but they do want the government.


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