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OfflineJabensis
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    #7518012 - 10/14/07 11:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

So this past fall season i had a geniouse idea. Horse shit is where most mushrooms are found when they grow on animal shit. Why not let the horse do all the work for me? Idea seemed simple enough. and it worked with great results.
I grew before using the PFTEK... not so fun but learned a lot. So with my harvest i managed to make some spore solution. I made a ton. I donated about 5 large caps just for spore solution and ended up with a gallon or so of solution. I had made a few diffeerent solutions and then combined them all when starting with this crazy idea. So im driving to my friend's house who has went through the whole PFTEK with me and i noticed a horse field next to his house that i had never noticed before. I should have, it just didn't click until this day. I got to my friends house and we went to work instantly.
This is what we did. We got some straw and hay, probably a quarter bail of each, and mixed it up so it was a thourough mixture. Then using a large plastic bin we threw in about a half a gallon of my spore solution. Had to leave some extra for my next grain grow. Mixed all the straw hay and spore solution until the water had completely mixed in. Then we went to the orse field under cover of night and set out this mixture for the horses next to one of they're watering dishes. We had to scrape the sides of the bin with some of the straw because the spores stuck to the side of the container.
Drove past the next day..... no straw/hay. Had to assume that the horses had eated it.
After seeing this we went out to the field every day looking for fresh sprouts. next to the woodline of course, cooler.
sure enough a few days went past and we had found horse shit with cubes popping out everywhere. The small dose of spores we had fed them acted as a seed kind of for all the garss that they had already eaten.
We both agreed that we could get past the smell and the fact that the myc had grown inside a horse, so in the end after drying we ended up with about a QP total.
unfortunately its in the end of the fall and we'll have to wait to try our luck again in the spring.

Worked for us, might work for you.


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Re: Horsepower [Re: Jabensis]
    #7519019 - 10/15/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Most. Original. Cultivation. Ever.

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Re: Horsepower [Re: Asante]
    #7519191 - 10/15/07 12:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Whatever gets the job done right!


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Re: Horsepower [Re: Somatic]
    #7519360 - 10/15/07 12:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thats sheer genius..

If there are no shrooms in a field close to you, just feed some spores to the horses/cows! and actually this will almost guarantee that there ar shrooms there for years to come.. because there is no chance that you will find ALL the shrooms in ALL the poop..


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Re: Horsepower [Re: Slimz]
    #7519413 - 10/15/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

VERY original and funny idea.  Glad it worked, too! :thumbup:


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Re: Horsepower [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #7519447 - 10/15/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hell, now I wish I lived on a Ranch! LOL!


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Re: Horsepower [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7519505 - 10/15/07 01:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the laugh...

all of you

You guys are fuckin nuts :laugh:

The acids in a horses stomach will kill the spores, this is just as funny as the "I fed my cow a spore print but his poop didnt grow shrooms, what went wrong" threads that have been around forever.


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Re: Horsepower [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7519514 - 10/15/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

does this work for people too haha jk great now all i need is a horse


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Re: Horsepower [Re: Pr0_X]
    #7519524 - 10/15/07 01:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Pr0_X said:
Thanks for the laugh...

all of you

You guys are fuckin nuts :laugh:

The acids in a horses stomach will kill the spores, this is just as funny as the "I fed my cow a spore print but his poop didnt grow shrooms, what went wrong" threads that have been around forever.




actually  paul stamets relates a story where a guy orders some horses from Florida .. to WA state .. they pooped in his stall in WA and cubes grew for a couple of years then died out ..


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Re: Horsepower [Re: milkman]
    #7519541 - 10/15/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Some spore related horse quotes

http://www.ojibway.ca/mushrooms.htm
Tiny coprophilic fungus can be found on fresh horse droppings. The black spore caps are "blasted" away from the manure and stick to a blade of grass to await another horse to eat the spores.

http://www.disknet.com/indiana_biolab/kids102.htm
In nature, Pilobolus fires its spores toward the lighted sky so they land on vegetation and stick to the leaves. When a horse eats the leaves, conditions in the digestive tract activate the spores so they are ready to grow in the dung. Pilobolus is difficult to grow without the assistance of a willling horse. However, I believe I have grown it on sterile rabbit dung

And read this link Paragraph 1


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Re: Horsepower [Re: Slimz]
    #7519550 - 10/15/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

People have been putting caps and sporeprints in their cow's water trough for years to start patches. If you'll search here, you'll find it's been recommended as a method of wild cultivation for at least as long as I've been around. I've never heard of it working with horses. It does however, work with cows.
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Re: Horsepower [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7519566 - 10/15/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Straight from the man himself Pr0_X ...

Can you feel that ....


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Re: Horsepower [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7519732 - 10/15/07 02:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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People have been putting caps and sporeprints in their cow's water trough for years to start patches. If you'll search here, you'll find it's been recommended as a method of wild cultivation for at least as long as I've been around. I've never heard of it working with horses. It does however, work with cows.
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Same here, I can rationalize it working with a cow because they don't have any significant digestive acids in their multiple stomaches whereas a horse uses similar type of hydrochloric acid as humans to aid in digestion - which I would have imagined a spore could not readily survive.


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Re: Horsepower [Re: mycocurious]
    #7519778 - 10/15/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You've gotta be kidding me...

So if i go feed a horse or cow spore solution it will crap mushrooms, that's whats been scientifically proven? god can smite me now.


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Re: Horsepower [Re: Pr0_X]
    #7519789 - 10/15/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I've got 1 word for ya...

CORN

i rest my case


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Re: Horsepower [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7519797 - 10/15/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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People have been putting caps and sporeprints in their cow's water trough for years to start patches. If you'll search here, you'll find it's been recommended as a method of wild cultivation for at least as long as I've been around. I've never heard of it working with horses. It does however, work with cows.
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Re: Horsepower [Re: Asante]
    #7519828 - 10/15/07 02:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

damnit, this makes me wish my buddy still had his horses, im glad this worked for you though.


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Re: Horsepower [Re: Funkatron9000]
    #7519841 - 10/15/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

So, all i need is a huge spore syringe and you just inject the horse? Sounds easy..


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Re: Horsepower [Re: teahupoo]
    #7520480 - 10/15/07 06:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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So, all i need is a huge spore syringe and you just inject the horse? Sounds easy...





Don't forget about your horse-sized glovebox. Wouldn't want it crapping trichodermia.


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Re: Horsepower [Re: Jabensis]
    #7522221 - 10/16/07 07:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

This "cultivation" is the natural process basically, the cycle between herbivore and grass and the mushroom that hitches a ride with it.

Sterilization by digestion is by no means anywhere near absolute. If a horse/cow/sheep eats 1.000 spores I'm sure 100 get through his GI tract still viable, if not more.

RR's adaptation of spores in the drinking trough sounds like a great idea: this way all the animals will spread spore-laden poo all the time. If you got a big farm with lots of beasts its an excellent way to get acres and acres of one Cubie pie after another.


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Re: Horsepower [Re: Asante]
    #7522471 - 10/16/07 09:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well, the cow wouldn't shit mushrooms right? His shit would just start growing myc?


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Re: Horsepower [Re: anomaly420]
    #7522550 - 10/16/07 10:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yes.. LOL cow shitting mushrooms.. thats funny


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Re: Horsepower [Re: Slimz]
    #7522843 - 10/16/07 12:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

This is begging for a photoshop job.


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    #7522865 - 10/16/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)



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    #7522905 - 10/16/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

haha


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Re: Horsepower [Re: anomaly420]
    #7522976 - 10/16/07 12:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I have seriously thought about this. But there would be major limitations. THe weather for example. The myc would need to be at the correct stage when it rained it seems. You couldn't exactly go around watering a whole pasture. And if conditions were too dry wouldn't the myc dry out?

I know in the wild in an established colony these things might take care of themselves. But this would basically be establishing a new colony.

But I never thought to add it to the water. I'll have to ponder more. And cows instead of horses. Hmmm


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Re: Horsepower [Re: mushbaby]
    #7523014 - 10/16/07 12:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

remember poop is wet and humid already..


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Re: Horsepower [Re: Slimz]
    #7523042 - 10/16/07 12:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yes it is. I have a huge pasture right in front of my home. But not really that wet. Unless the animal in question has scours and I don't want anything grown on that. And those mushrooms will crack and dry up very easily unless there's very high humidity. Way more that poop drying in the sun is going to create.


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Re: Horsepower [Re: Asante]
    #7523052 - 10/16/07 12:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm, I've read this before but only after seeing this thread have I given any thought to it.

I've been picking up some extra work at an agricultural supply place near me that sells a lot of feed to local ranches.
If the cubes weren't all ready so prolific here it would be fun to just start adulterating shipments of feed with spores.


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Re: Horsepower [Re: MrKite1]
    #7523092 - 10/16/07 01:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Hmm, I've read this before but only after seeing this thread have I given any thought to it.

I've been picking up some extra work at an agricultural supply place near me that sells a lot of feed to local ranches.
If the cubes weren't all ready so prolific here it would be fun to just start adulterating shipments of feed with spores.




adulterating shipments of feed with spores? BRILLIANT!!


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Re: Horsepower [Re: Slimz]
    #7523156 - 10/16/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Listen folks. All i know is my budy and i fed a few horses some hay/straw tainted with spores and it worked. I do recall it raining one day when we were eagerly waiting. I know that it worked. We got a pretty good harvest and if it worked for us then it migh work for someone else. I urge anyone and everyone who can to try it try it on both cows and horse.


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Re: Horsepower [Re: Jabensis]
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