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Re: Rye Grains [Re: Mepher]
#7526453 - 10/17/07 01:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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less rye in the jar = faster colonization = Less time for contaimination. IMO
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Re: Rye Grains [Re: Mepher]
#7526475 - 10/17/07 02:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hydrating the grain beforehand and then filling the jars about 75%-80% full works for me. Otherwise you end up with jars that have a lot of wasted space, though that's still not as bad as over-filled jars tat can't be shaken.
That is my preferred method.
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Im ammature at best, but i have a side by side compairison going right now with rye. One cup in one jar and 80% in another. The smaller ammount looks white and fluffy, the large ammount is still brown.
do you shake your jars?
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Re: Rye Grains [Re: rodfarva]
#7529998 - 10/18/07 03:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shake after colonization begins to take off, but not at the first sign, then maybe again once it is past 50% or more. You want to wait until the myc begins to establish itself -- too early and it is like starting over again. Shake vigorously to break up any big clumps and get myc nearer to any uncolonized grains.
Less grain = faster colonization, but less grain = less substrate. Rye should colonize relatively quickly anyway, so I'd rather fill the jars more and wait a few more days rather than use a ton of jars. You could use 100 half full half-pint jars for colonization in four days, but do you really want to get half a cup of colonized substrate per jar? I'll go bigger and wait 10-14 days for jars to finish, each yielding close to a quart of sub.
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Re: Rye Grains [Re: Mepher]
#7530010 - 10/18/07 03:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Rye Grains [Re: Mepher]
#7530146 - 10/18/07 05:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mepher said: One cup per quart jar results in ridiculously underfilled jars, in my experience. I tried that, and there was still a TON of room left in the jars - way more than is needed to shake them about.
I typically do nine jars at a time and oddly enough, after my rye berries have been soaked, boiled and otherwise pre-hydrated it seems to take between 8.75-9.50 cups of dry rye berries to fill up all nine jars to the 66-80% range.
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I wish people would quit saying smaller jars and/or less rye grain in the jars makes them colonize faster. It does not. RR
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sorry for saying the results of my anecdotal experiment.
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Re: Rye Grains [Re: rodfarva]
#7531130 - 10/18/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm sorry that you are being an emo kid, and that I'm contributing to getting this thread loxxored.
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