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OfflinePhoshaman
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Racism on The Shroomery.
    #7517744 - 10/14/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't get it. Why is racism so prevalent and accepted by the majority on here? It never used to be like that. I'm not talking about OTD either. I honestly haven't looked in that forum in well over two years. I'm talking about right here in The Pub amongst other areas.

I have at least 3 negative ratings due to me calling out people/giving them negative ratings because of them spewing racial hatred or using bigoted terms (et al. nigger) and such and so.

You would think with the 15 moderators that The Pub has there wouldn't be any problems with stuff like this, but apparently not.

Just my nine cents. Thanks.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7517749 - 10/14/07 10:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7517751 - 10/14/07 10:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Freedom of speech, nigga. A lot of it is joking.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman] * 1
    #7517780 - 10/14/07 10:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's the shock factor. Some people think they're cool because they can throw around racist terms while hiding behind the veil of anonymity that we call the internet.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: DNKYD]
    #7517783 - 10/14/07 10:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

nope, i use em at school.


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OfflinePhoshaman
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: robbyberto]
    #7517792 - 10/14/07 10:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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robbyberto said:
Freedom of speech, nigga. A lot of it is joking.




No.

White, suburban retards that live with their parents saying 'nigga' cause they think it's funny/cool is one thing, but then there's people (like in my ratings section) saying shit like "usually there's some nigger in the alley selling it" and shit in response to my tattoo "what do you think you're black or something?" and I just don't see how that is tolerated.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7517811 - 10/14/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Phoshaman said:
"what do you think you're black or something?" and I just don't see how that is tolerated.




Wait a minute: you're white? I'm confused.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: LucidDream] * 1
    #7517819 - 10/14/07 10:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It doesn't matter. They're racist remarks regardless of the race of the person they're directed at.


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OfflinePhoshaman
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: LucidDream]
    #7517864 - 10/14/07 10:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

LucidDream said:
Quote:

Phoshaman said:
"what do you think you're black or something?" and I just don't see how that is tolerated.




Wait a minute: you're white? I'm confused.




What does that have to do with anything?

I've been a minority race my entire life due to the locations I've always lived in, and there is absolutely no tolerance amongst myself or my peers when motherfuckers drop racist remarks geared towards anyone at all. That is why I am wondering why it is so widely accepted here at The Shroomery.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7517913 - 10/14/07 10:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well why do you care??
if there is a black person in the Pub who actually cares when people say nigga, nigger, black person, nighty face, big lips, jungle fuck, poopy face, purple nurps, chocolate face, etc.


say "I"


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7517925 - 10/14/07 10:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The problem with the words rest with the victim.

It's bloody sound waves, don't get so worked up over trivial shit.

Proper racism (real world discrimination) I don't tolerate, but over a messageboard, who cares.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Chubba]
    #7517961 - 10/14/07 11:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I agree, these crackers go too far. On another note, have you ever been to LA?


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: oso]
    #7517967 - 10/14/07 11:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i live in LA


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7517975 - 10/14/07 11:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7517979 - 10/14/07 11:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

to the OP - don't get all al sharpton and shit because some overtly racist bastard got to you on the shroomery. yeah, there are assholes like that - and they belong with the rest of the fuckin weirdos in the OTD. i agree with what you're saying though, but there isn't shit we can do about it except maybe report it to a mod or do what you're doing - call those racists out. my dad is a bigot and a racist and i call his shit all the time - it's all you can do. other than that you really can't stop them from having a grinchy simpletons one dimensional mindset. peace :yinyang:


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Chubba]
    #7517984 - 10/14/07 11:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

racism is losing its power.
if everybody is racist about everybody,
then nobody is.

as long as it doesn't involve forming societies based on race.

funny how Dr. MLK advocated his dream that people would be judged not by color of skin but by content of character,
and today we have everyone grouped in racial communities, ignoring character flaws to find commonality in ethnic heritage (and thus adopting by association said flaws)
And so we have rapid degradation of every ethnic group. (yes whites too)
Diversity combined with our "Birds of a feather" nature promotes the cultivation of negative traits in entire groups WHEREVER there are groups that identify themselves with a common GRANTED trait. If you have to WORK for a trait, like education, or fitness, you tend to have more pride in your character, but GIVEN traits, people take pride in their inheritance and ignore their own legacy. color, class, creed, religion, etc. All mechanisms of simple mutual acknowledgment. In time, this lazy associating promotes lazy self-respect.
affiliation to a particular website is ANOTHER example.
This site USED to base upon a clear mission, until people got lazy with their minds.

You have a problem with racism? start a society based on character. I HOPE to do such a thing. If only I knew how.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7517988 - 10/14/07 11:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

that's why we need to practice interracial sex


c'mon

do it for the world


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7517996 - 10/14/07 11:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Black pussy has aids.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Nemo_Hoes]
    #7518004 - 10/14/07 11:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Black pussy has aids.



I could never eat out a black chick.

Just could not.

(exception if they were EXTREMELY hot of course, but 99.9%, nope)


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Chubba]
    #7518028 - 10/14/07 11:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Chubba said:
Quote:

Black pussy has aids.



I could never eat out a black chick.

Just could not.

(exception if they were EXTREMELY hot of course, but 99.9%, nope)




halle barry dude :crazy2:


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: blkjkrabbit]
    #7518037 - 10/14/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Queen Latifah dude :crazy2:





dude, no.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: blkjkrabbit]
    #7518039 - 10/14/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I love all pussy, as long as it don't stink.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: oso]
    #7518043 - 10/14/07 11:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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halle barry dude



Isn't she a half-caste?

That's like saying Lucy-Lu is asian.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Chubba]
    #7518046 - 10/14/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Lucy Liu is Asian.............................


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: oso]
    #7518048 - 10/14/07 11:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

oso said:
I love all pussy, as long as it don't stink.




sorry to break it to you pal

but all pussy stinks

yeah
but that's life
we eat pussy
they suck our dicks
and make us sandwiches

it's the cycle of life


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: blkjkrabbit]
    #7518057 - 10/14/07 11:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't like to think about this, because it makes my head hurt. I'm just too lazy to think about it.

On the shroomery it's not a big deal, just a message board.

I also don't think about it in real life much. Until I get into a depression then all this shit that has been building inside me blows up. After awhile, I fall back to a baseline, and everything is once more happy.

Hehe.

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7518058 - 10/14/07 11:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Half black (light brown?) I can handle, but noir black nop.

Like I would nail a indian or arab, but definetely not an african.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
    #7518060 - 10/14/07 11:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

But I do agree the OTD is one weird ass place.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: DNKYD]
    #7518245 - 10/15/07 01:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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DNKYD said:
It's the shock factor. Some people think they're cool because they can throw around racist terms while hiding behind the veil of anonymity that we call the internet.




Anonymity? Hell, I've given out my address to quite a few members, and at least one person here has seen exactly where I live and what I look like :tongue2:

Some people just don't mind ignoring political correctness and making a joke that might offend someone. If someone thinks they've got a god-given right never to be offended, I'm that much happier to prove them wrong and ignore the whining sense of entitlement that people tend to respond with. You don't stop a child from being spoiled by giving them what they want... and PC thugs are spoiled children.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
    #7518246 - 10/15/07 01:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not racist, I just play one on the internet.

Going to work, later people.

Just sneezed four times in a row.

Racism is really unintelligent.

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7518343 - 10/15/07 03:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

oh crazy ass kids, racism doesn't singularly exists inside a message board or only on larger levels outside of this community. yeah some of the kids here are just looking for a little shock value but some are speaking more freely of how they truly feel or how they act outside of their computer.
we as humans always push the limit, if we can get away with one thing we'll go on to the next, if dumb kids can freely spout out whatever rascist shit that comes to mind on here, the next thing could be saying or doing something fucking stupid to someone on the street, school whatever.
or it could be you have shit heads doing shit that ends up like the jena 6 and coming to their internet wall to push the limit once again.
i've dealt with some really fucking dumb pieces of shit, so i'll send some kind words and a promise of a kick in the balls. not everyone is gonna write it off as 'just online jokes' because they can see these connections.
i;m bad about quoting but i agree that the pub atleast didnt have all this shit, but it is a lazy mind and apathy that is part of the reason.... aye i need to match my little mood bar.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: blkjkrabbit]
    #7518385 - 10/15/07 04:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

theres just to meny kids in this place, you wouldent think that with such a hobby, but well i guess some people are just idiots and will one day grow up.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Jack86]
    #7518390 - 10/15/07 04:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

theres just to meny kids in this place, you wouldent think that with such a hobby, but well i guess some people are just idiots and will one day grow up.



l2spell

Seriously, calling people kids when you type like that is rather silly.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Jack86]
    #7518391 - 10/15/07 04:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah kids suck



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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7518408 - 10/15/07 05:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

..Or perhaps the stereotype that druggies are an antisocial bunch is true to some extent :syringe:


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Asante]
    #7518416 - 10/15/07 05:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

look at your answer, need i say more chubba


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7518419 - 10/15/07 05:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

meatcakeman said:
Quote:

oso said:
I love all pussy, as long as it don't stink.




sorry to break it to you pal

but all pussy stinks
yeah
but that's life
we eat pussy
they suck our dicks
and make us sandwiches

it's the cycle of life





UHmm NO. it smells if they arent clean. or if its that time. if they smell otherwise...... might want to introduce her to some douche, a bidet, or something to wash the funk out.

Bong


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Jack86]
    #7518449 - 10/15/07 05:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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need i say more chubba





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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Asante]
    #7518466 - 10/15/07 06:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

A word is just a word until you give it the power to offend you. Don't give it that power you kike motherfucker. :smile:

And on that note, here's a nigger joke:

What's the difference between a nigger and a snow tire?
A snow tire doesn't sing when you put chains on it.

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #7518477 - 10/15/07 06:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

im not offended by any of this, just think its stupidy childish, and about as funny as aids.
say what you want its a forum.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Jack86]
    #7518488 - 10/15/07 06:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Racism is a fucking joke now days. the problem is, 90% of blacks, Mexicans, and whites fall into the stereotype as the typical nigger, spic, or honky. I'm not racist, but I hate a lot of niggers, mexicans, and even more so crackers.

I'm white.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Rustifer]
    #7518505 - 10/15/07 06:41 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

This place has gone to hell, crackers.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: blkjkrabbit]
    #7518694 - 10/15/07 08:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

what i dont understand is why we can be racist, sexist, and offensive as hell here, but we STILL can't make pedophilia jokes. :crankey: what the fuck, has there been a shroomery investigation before related to that or what?


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7518713 - 10/15/07 08:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Phoshaman said:
Why is racism so prevalent and accepted by the majority on here?




There is an abundance of losers on the internet and this happens to be an rather stupid and scummy enclave of them.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #7518750 - 10/15/07 09:14 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #7518777 - 10/15/07 09:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Why is racism so prevalent and accepted by the majority on here?




There is an abundance of losers on the internet and this happens to be an rather stupid and scummy enclave of them.




Isnt this like the pot calling the kettle black?

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: bonghittr]
    #7518822 - 10/15/07 09:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

We all know theres only one race,

the human race.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Brainiac]
    #7518935 - 10/15/07 10:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

^^^ true


racism is dumb...for every racist white person calling black folks niggers and coons, saying how dumb they are, and belong in the jungle, theres a black physics professor failing a white student, or a black doctor diagnosing a white woman with aids, or a black district attorney prosecuting a white man for possessing crack

all "races" do the same things...poor white city folks like crack as much as poor black city folks, just like a white crackwhore (of which there are many) has the same chances of getting aids as a black crackwhore

the fact is that black folks are just as good at things as white folks, when give the same circumstances, and racist folk know it


in fact, black folks are even better at some things thank white folks, like sports...the white mans 400 year eugenics experiment with the africans has backfired, creating superpowerful black athletes, against whom white athletes cant compete!


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
    #7518949 - 10/15/07 10:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Backfired? You don't think thats what they were planning all along? Tie the black race up in a superficial race towards an early death, regardless if its selling drugs, playing football, or dying from rapping the wrong words. I think thats what they were planning all along. In actuality they have almost complete control. Racism is one of the most horrible traits in our culture, and in all cultures. But battling it has to start from the top not from the bottom. Especially when we have media ran by white people, deciding what we all see, admire, and strive for.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7518952 - 10/15/07 10:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Racism will be around for as long as we have people and their dirty cultures.  Anyone can recognize the differences from one culture to the next and will laugh or fight over them.  In the U.S., there seems to be constant pressure to dissolve racism, but I've mostly seen cultures dissolve.  If them niggers aint gonna stop eating chicken n watermelon, we gonna have serious goin' ons. 

Either you choose to recognize the difference between true hatred and tasteless humor or you don't. 

Kill whitey!!

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: 2FiNiTe]
    #7518985 - 10/15/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Backfired? You don't think thats what they were planning all along? Tie the black race up in a superficial race towards an early death, regardless if its selling drugs, playing football, or dying from rapping the wrong words.





well, no, i dont think that the plan all along was for black people to have a higher death rate because of football and rapping....i dont think in the early 1600s that many slave traders and plantation owners were thinking "man this is great, breeding slaves for size and strength is great for us cause it saves money on farming, plus when they get freed and have equal rights in a few hundred years, theyr all gonna be playing football because of their freakish propensity to be bigger and stronger than white folks"


i do agree that mtv and BET and the fox corporation and others force feed the population "us and them" thinking, furthering the separation of "races" why else would an old white man own BET? hes saying that blacks should watch tv about blacks, not whites, because before you know it theyll think they can be like the white people they see on tv....every show has people speaking "ebonics" (retard speak), and every reality show has the black guy and the black girl hooking up with each other....dont get me started on the evils of the media


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
    #7518989 - 10/15/07 11:16 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Most of your post is bullshit.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
    #7518992 - 10/15/07 11:16 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

No, ALL of what you say in your post is bullshit.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Cowgold]
    #7518995 - 10/15/07 11:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

like what?


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
    #7519014 - 10/15/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
    #7519045 - 10/15/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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racism is dumb...for every racist white person calling black folks niggers and coons, saying how dumb they are, and belong in the jungle, theres a black physics professor failing a white student, or a black doctor diagnosing a white woman with aids, or a black district attorney prosecuting a white man for possessing crack
all "races" do the same things...poor white city folks like crack as much as poor black city folks, just like a white crackwhore (of which there are many) has the same chances of getting aids as a black crackwhore

the fact is that black folks are just as good at things as white folks, when give the same circumstances, and racist folk know it




I'm not sure I understand your point.
Are you suggesting that while there are white racists, there are no black racists? Simply black people who do the same things as white racists, but not because of racially motivated reasons?


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: jewunit]
    #7519063 - 10/15/07 11:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think his point is that white people are trying to hold the black man down and somehow it backfired because niggas be lockin da crackas up mang.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7519064 - 10/15/07 11:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's prevalent because it's a cheap way to get a reaction.  Same reason there's so much violence and death on TV.  Lack of creativity.

It's 'accepted' because this is the internet and we have freedom of speech.  I think ignorant comments only hurt the person who made them (and anyone else willing to take them to heart.)  Racism has exactly as much power as you want to give it.

Like it or not, in OTD blatant racist speech is a time-honored tradition; it's lost its appeal to me personally.  Sometimes the goal is just to entertain each other by being as offensive as possible.  I say let them.  Participation is voluntary.

There is a tremendous difference between dropping the N-word in a post, and treating an individual like shit because of his/her race.  If people have foolish beliefs and opinions about race, let them broadcast their ignorance.

I am happy with The Pub's level of moderation. 

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Cowgold]
    #7519069 - 10/15/07 11:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well, over the course of african enslavement, slaves were bred in an attempt to bring out desired qualities such as size and strength, as is done with any beasts of burden. this "breeding" is called eugenics because it attempted to control to course of the evolution of humans. over hundreds of years, the occurance of these traits became more common in black people. hence the higher rates of black professional athletes. i can post many links about this if you want

also, BET is owned by Viacom, owned by sumner redstone....do ya think hes black?


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Cowgold]
    #7519070 - 10/15/07 11:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I have a feeling it's not even worth addressing the arguments he's put forth.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: jewunit]
    #7519081 - 10/15/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: jewunit]
    #7519102 - 10/15/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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racism is dumb...for every racist white person calling black folks niggers and coons, saying how dumb they are, and belong in the jungle, theres a black physics professor failing a white student, or a black doctor diagnosing a white woman with aids, or a black district attorney prosecuting a white man for possessing crack
all "races" do the same things...poor white city folks like crack as much as poor black city folks, just like a white crackwhore (of which there are many) has the same chances of getting aids as a black crackwhore

the fact is that black folks are just as good at things as white folks, when give the same circumstances, and racist folk know it




I'm not sure I understand your point.
Are you suggesting that while there are white racists, there are no black racists? Simply black people who do the same things as white racists, but not because of racially motivated reasons?





im glad you asked, because upon reading my post, i see why it looks a bit unclear.....

my point is that most racist people take issue with "black" matters such as aids...it was brought up in this thread, i believe, someone said black pussy has aids...i think everyone intellectually understands that the virus doesnt care what color person it infects, correct? black people have a much higher rate of getting aids because of their socioeconomic status, inner city poeple get less sex education, and less education in general, than suburban people....what i was trying to say before is that a white person put in the same situation as a black person (white crackwhore vs black crackwhore) will have the same things going against them...just like how many say that crack is a drug for black folks...poeple here might not espouse this view simply because we here are more drug savy than the average person, but to your average american, the crack problem is a black problem, because its an inner city problem, and black are associated with the inner city... but in truth there are as many white crack addicts as there are black


my comments werent addressing black racism, because there are tons of black racists....this thread was about racsm against blacks on the board...i was simply trying to point out that while racists look at the negative side of "black" (ie. "poor") culture and see crack and aids, they ignore the fact the privilaged black kids from the suburbs do just as well as white kids, there are plenty of black docs and lawyers, and they shouldnt be seen as the exception to the rule, but an example of how nurture can overcome nature


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
    #7519113 - 10/15/07 11:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Seems like you have an excuse for every thing black.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
    #7519157 - 10/15/07 12:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

So you do, then, acknowledge that there are black racists as well? Because you haven't said it, and you seem to be trying to avoid saying it. That's really what I was asking, in truth I understood your point.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
    #7519177 - 10/15/07 12:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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racism is dumb...for every racist white person calling black folks niggers and coons, saying how dumb they are, and belong in the jungle, theres a black physics professor failing a white student, or a black doctor diagnosing a white woman with aids, or a black district attorney prosecuting a white man for possessing crack
all "races" do the same things...poor white city folks like crack as much as poor black city folks, just like a white crackwhore (of which there are many) has the same chances of getting aids as a black crackwhore

the fact is that black folks are just as good at things as white folks, when give the same circumstances, and racist folk know it




I'm not sure I understand your point.
Are you suggesting that while there are white racists, there are no black racists? Simply black people who do the same things as white racists, but not because of racially motivated reasons?





im glad you asked, because upon reading my post, i see why it looks a bit unclear.....

my point is that most racist people take issue with "black" matters such as aids...it was brought up in this thread, i believe, someone said black pussy has aids...i think everyone intellectually understands that the virus doesnt care what color person it infects, correct? black people have a much higher rate of getting aids because of their socioeconomic status, inner city poeple get less sex education, and less education in general, than suburban people....what i was trying to say before is that a white person put in the same situation as a black person (white crackwhore vs black crackwhore) will have the same things going against them...just like how many say that crack is a drug for black folks...poeple here might not espouse this view simply because we here are more drug savy than the average person, but to your average american, the crack problem is a black problem, because its an inner city problem, and black are associated with the inner city... but in truth there are as many white crack addicts as there are black


my comments werent addressing black racism, because there are tons of black racists....this thread was about racsm against blacks on the board...i was simply trying to point out that while racists look at the negative side of "black" (ie. "poor") culture and see crack and aids, they ignore the fact the privilaged black kids from the suburbs do just as well as white kids, there are plenty of black docs and lawyers, and they shouldnt be seen as the exception to the rule, but an example of how nurture can overcome nature







im not sure how that constitutes trying to avoid saying it.....


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
    #7519184 - 10/15/07 12:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It isn't, I just failed to read the last paragraph.
The thread really wasn't about any specific racism though, I think you (and some others) chose to make it so because you have an invested interest in it.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7519201 - 10/15/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Wow.

I got a warning for calling somebody a retard on this thread.

I guess the 15 mods on here can't handle being called out for doing a shitty job moderating this forum.

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7519212 - 10/15/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7519213 - 10/15/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Wow.

I got a warning for calling somebody a retard on this thread.

I guess the 15 mods on here can't handle being called out for doing a shitty job moderating this forum.

Fucking ridiculous.




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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7519218 - 10/15/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The retard, as you put it, probably hit the 'notify mod' whistle button. I'd say the mods are doing a pretty good job.


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    #7519225 - 10/15/07 12:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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It's prevalent because it's a cheap way to get a reaction.  Same reason there's so much violence and death on TV.  Lack of creativity.

It's 'accepted' because this is the internet and we have freedom of speech.  I think ignorant comments only hurt the person who made them (and anyone else willing to take them to heart.)  Racism has exactly as much power as you want to give it.

Like it or not, in OTD blatant racist speech is a time-honored tradition; it's lost its appeal to me personally.  Sometimes the goal is just to entertain each other by being as offensive as possible.  I say let them.  Participation is voluntary.

There is a tremendous difference between dropping the N-word in a post, and treating an individual like shit because of his/her race.  If people have foolish beliefs and opinions about race, let them broadcast their ignorance.

I am happy with The Pub's level of moderation. 

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Brainiac]
    #7519226 - 10/15/07 12:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well, you can think that i have an interest in whatever you want, but the truth is that the examples put fourth by the creator of the thread both included the word nigger, as well as many other references to black people (eg. "black pussy has aids" among others) and these were the types of comments to which i was responding

im sorry if i misrepresented myself or my intentions, but next time i would ask that try to understand my point, or at the very least read what i have to say before criticizing me


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: jewunit]
    #7519238 - 10/15/07 12:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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im sorry if i misrepresented myself or my intentions, but next time i would ask that try to understand my point, or at the very least read what i have to say before criticizing me



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I'm not sure I understand your point.
Are you suggesting that while there are white racists, there are no black racists? Simply black people who do the same things as white racists, but not because of racially motivated reasons?




Practice what you preach, good sir.
I admitted I fucked up and didn't read your last paragraph in your last post, but I'm pretty sure the whole time I've been asking questions of your points/intentions to better understand them.
You're communication skills seem to be lacking since I'm pretty sure anyone who has read this thread would think you have some sort of agenda regarding racism against blacks, specifically from whites.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7519260 - 10/15/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

just put them on ignore now.
i tryed opening that can of worms and all i got was more haters.
its just the way of life for some people. in los angeles the racism stays pritty much in the jails and the gangs.
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: jewunit]
    #7519334 - 10/15/07 12:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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So you do, then, acknowledge that there are black racists as well? Because you haven't said it, and you seem to be trying to avoid saying it. That's really what I was asking, in truth I understood your point.




so you did understand my point from the beginning? so that whole thing had nothing to do with helping you understand my point? ahh, i see

as for my agenda, i, (i assume like you) am a fairly well off jewish kid from the suburbs, and i feel like it should be everyones agenda to do away with what racism still abounds in our culture, and the most recently publicized incidents involving racism have been towards blacks, like the recent noose hanging over a doorknob of a black folk (i forget if it was a student, or prof? idk) at columbia university within the last week, and that jena 6 crap (i do think those 6 black kids should go to jail, and that the black community made a rucus over not a whole lot, im just trying to illustrate the more widely publicized incidents of race relations in the US) i think we can agree that universities and small towns alike would be better off with less nooses

i didnt mean to sounds all "black power" if thats the way it came across, a couple of my best friends are black and belong to "black fraternities", and are always talkin race relations. ive told em that i dont like these black fraternities (or any frats, for that matter) because they instill not just "pride" in ones race, but foster feelings of exclusion and "we're better than you". see how heated people get over this race thing? thats why i think it would be better if "race" (skin color) was simply less of a factor in most aspects of life

eliminating racism should be everyones agenda


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
    #7519358 - 10/15/07 12:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Shroomery always had racists. There are plenty of Nazis here too. Plenty of people that hate blacks. A lot of rednecks too.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
    #7519380 - 10/15/07 12:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I understood the initial point you were making, but I didn't understand if you were denying the fact that there were black racists. I went about asking it in a round-about way to see if I could get you to say it without directly asking or not. When someone admits to something without it being directly asked it makes it more believable on their end (therefore when asked directly it makes it less believable.)

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as for my agenda, i, (i assume like you) am a fairly well off jewish kid from the suburbs




You couldn't be farther from the truth. (Well you could, if we went to a rabbi and asked him if I was Jewish he would say yes, so I guess you got that part right.)

As for the rest of your post... well, I pretty much flat out disagree with it.

And by the way, I have no problems with arguments, I rather enjoy them. I shouldn't have to end arguments in this way, but just because I'm arguing with you doesn't necessarily mean I have some personal problem with you (although depending on the subject matter that may be the case.)


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: jewunit]
    #7519434 - 10/15/07 01:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well, excuse my stereotypical assumptions :crazy2: but most jews i know are middle class and suburban (i guess i know about 3)

im glad we're clear that there are no ill intentions here, i like civil arguments, its how disagreements should be handled

what else about my post do you disagree with?  now that we've gotten my intentions and my point out of the way and established that both of us are capable of having a civil disagreement, im interested to hear about what you disagree with regarding my view of racism?


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
    #7519459 - 10/15/07 01:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Simply put, racism can be funny and unharmful. It's even funnier when it is antagonizing, you dirty nigger lovers. I think that physical racism, for the most part, is a thing of the past and that a tolerant attitude should not discriminate against offcolor racial terms or jokes.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7519531 - 10/15/07 01:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

quit complaining about nothing.. if you see such horrible things being said here, then report them.. or leave. instead of making a grumbly whining little post about how everyone else besides you is so evil. and how one term is so innately evil and must never ever be used, no matter what the context or intent .

im friends with several black people. and ill call them a nigger or shitloads of other stupid names whenever i want. just like theyll call me stupid names.. last time i checked its called ribbing. they dont care , i dont care. cause we're not overly sensitive about stupid crap


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7519568 - 10/15/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Phoshaman: was it the showering thread that pushed you over the edge?


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new2grow said:
well i think its a black thing, as well as being a personal thing. I think that blacks have a predisposition to not bathing, because it runs in the family, many were brought up this way.

I've talked to some mixed friends and they seemed passionate about their disgust towards their black relatives who opt out of bathing for the majority of the week.




I read in disbelief while that guy went on and on about how only black people don't shower enough! I've met my fair share of white people who don't shower enough and black people who shower 3 times a day.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7519582 - 10/15/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Cowgold]
    #7519639 - 10/15/07 02:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yea, i agree that race has its place in humor....like that joke someone said earlier about tires not singing when you put chains on em, that was quite funny, but obviously joking around about it is one thing, but its not always so funny... like my friend in the black fraternity, he always nigger lips the blunt when we smoke, so i tell him to quit nigger lippin it, and whenever i open a bottle of ibuprofen or some such around him i make him pick out that annoying cotton ball they stick on top of the pills for me, but it would be another thing completely if i went around and introduced him to people as my big lipped cotton pickin nigger friend....he wouldnt appreciate that much


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7519650 - 10/15/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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You would think with the 15 moderators that The Pub has there wouldn't be any problems with stuff like this, but apparently not.




There are moderators in the Pub?


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
    #7519747 - 10/15/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't agree with the idea that it should be everyone's agenda to end racism.
That kind of agenda isn't going to end anything.
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: jewunit]
    #7519907 - 10/15/07 03:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What he means to say is that it would be nice if everybody gave a shit.

But, they don't :shrug:

Thats a bitter pill to swallow, as the truth often is.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Asante]
    #7520006 - 10/15/07 03:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I give a shit in my job, my politics, my spending, my family and most of my life. I do not give a shit about coming to the shroomery.orgy spending time at the pub and otd and using names like nigger, jew, gook, idiot, fucker, cracker, fag or any of the other 7 deadly swear words that piss off some folks. Seeing one 'racist' or derogatory post by a member, taking it out of context and judging them, seems to me, um I don't know a bit right-wing?


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Asante]
    #7520081 - 10/15/07 04:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'm pretty sure I know what he means, but I don't agree with it.
Apathy would be more effective. You can't acknowledge people's differences and expect everyone to be okay with it. Things like black history month and this new Latino heritage month or whatever it was that I had never heard of before hurt more than they help.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: jewunit]
    #7520195 - 10/15/07 04:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Don't you think you can have freedom of speech without allowing name calling, racial slurs, harrassment, derogatory images, and malicious personal attacks?

I sure think so. Having some basic moral guidelines and rules of tact will not impinge on freedom of speech.

Do something about it. Keeping a healthy environment that promotes love and reason is more important than letting people express every last filthy comment and expression from their corrupt minds that degrades this website, and their behaviour will be recognized as acceptable and spead to others.

And it's never right to joke about racism. Just keep it up and one day someone will lose it and track you down and then you'll regret everything you said.Maybe they'll be jokin about your life while they put a bullet in your head, fool.

Don't you think it's contradictive to allow freedom of speech from all sides and then typify this website as something "counterculture" as if it somehow is intrinsically inseperable from mushrooms? It just makes me wonder, how open minded and tolerant you are anyway, and what do you stand for? Do you real care about reaching others with the truth that mushrooms are safe? Then why arn't you willing to humble yourselfs some and condecend to others to reach them? Self segragation.

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7520215 - 10/15/07 04:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Don't you think it's contradictive (pretty sure that's not a word) to think you can allow free speech but not allow what you deem as derogatory words?
I mean, seriously, if someone has racist beliefs, then why shouldn't they be allowed to voice their racist beliefs? Preventing someone from saying them isn't going to prevent someone from thinking them, after all.

I don't know if your post was directed to me, because it doesn't really apply to anything I've said, but I really don't see how what you're saying makes any sense at all. I also don't get what your last paragraph is trying to get across, please elaborate.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: jewunit]
    #7520241 - 10/15/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The thing about that n word that is very interesting to me is that nowadays white people call themselves the word. I remember once when I was walking out the grocery store and these two white guys greeted each other saying 'What's up my nigga' My white friends have said that word around me plenty of times. I think it's all about context really. I'm from Mississippi and I'm the only black person I know that doesn't use the word because I can think of other words to say...but everyone has the right to say what they want. Freedom of Speech. Is it right for rappers to say the word continuously in their music and their white fans to not say it when they're singing the song?

A word is a word. I'm always telling my best friend (who's black) not to call me that but he does it anyway. I know my white friends don't mean anything by it when they say it because they're hanging out with me and after seeing white people calling each other the word I think the word is slowly changing. As time goes by the meaning of certain words can change. I mean gay for instance, back in the day people would say "I'm so very gay today" and nowadays you say that and you're being pulled into church and having holy water tossed on you. I think because of music and because times are changing the 'n' word has just become more accepted.

Of course there's the argument "It's nigga, not nigger" thing which opens a whole different can of worms. Racism is still alive but am I gonna let a word from someone I don't know...used over the internet...mess up my day? No! Now if someone came up to me that I didn't know and used it in a rather rude way then that's totally different.

I think the important thing is to recognize when someone is just joking around and/or being stupid. The tire joke...I'll admit...made me chuckle and I've heard PLENTY of racist jokes (From a Mexican actually) I'm fairly new to this forum and the majority of people here, as far as I can tell, are really cool. I'm not going to write off a forum full of great people just because of a few idiots.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7520277 - 10/15/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Black people use the word nigger in just about every third word. To forbid people the right to say that word just because the color of their skin seems a bit, well, racist don't you think? You can't just say nigger so many times in such a short song and then complain that people are saying it.

Instead of being displeased of the use of the word nigger, you could try being displeased with hateful individuals instead.

Note: Stereotypes will always be around a plenty regardless of your race as long as enough people loosely fall into them.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7520310 - 10/15/07 05:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

This thread is becoming quite a nigger.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: The_Ghost]
    #7520318 - 10/15/07 05:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: pong]
    #7520653 - 10/15/07 06:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

We should all go to MR & P and pray to my invisible friend named jebus about cleansing our karma so this filthy chink jokes don't catch up to us.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7520778 - 10/15/07 07:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Black people use the word nigger in just about every third word.





Umm, no?

Thats quite a generalization.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Adom]
    #7521151 - 10/15/07 09:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Don't you think it's contradictive (pretty sure that's not a word) to think you can allow free speech but not allow what you deem as derogatory words?




It's not merely derogatory words.
It's also acts of blatant disrespect and just plain out ignorant hatred for other human beings. Like this:



and this:



and this:



and this:



and this:

"nigger manual"

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7171275#7171275

and this:

"nigger jokes:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7188986#7188986

and this:

"curb stomp a nigger and make the world a better place:


http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6900497#6900497

And on and on and on.

I guess as long as people allow it, people will keep doing it because they are so morally corrupt perhaps noone will convince them they are wrong.Perhaps Noone will convince them that they should not make fun of the slavery
that black people were put through, or make fun of them as if they are an inferior breed of human. Irregardless of their culture or how much work they need. How does this help anything? This isn't just an attack on black people, this is an attack on all humanity.


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I mean, seriously, if someone has racist beliefs, then why shouldn't they be allowed to voice their racist beliefs? Preventing someone from saying them isn't going to prevent someone from thinking them, after all.





This is not the general public. This is a privately owned website. And whatever goes on here both the supporters and the mods and the adminstrators are accountable for. And I have to say really they're the ones accountable, for allowing this to go on. There is no reason why people cannot voice their opinion without using such
means as I pointed out earlier. If they're so filled with hatred and ignorance that they cannot express their views without using such tactics then they should get off this site, unless this site promoted hatred and ignorance.

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I don't know if your post was directed to me, because it doesn't really apply to anything I've said, but I really don't see how what you're saying makes any sense at all. I also don't get what your last paragraph is trying to get across, please elaborate.




I'm sorry what I said doesn't make sense to you, I think it was pretty plain and clear.

Here's part of what I was trying to say in my last paragraph.


Total freedom of speech is not a natural quality of a private enterprise. freedom of speech is a quality of a governing body that allows freedom to dissent, like America is supposedly. But in this situation, the government cannot be intrinsically biased itself. That would contradict the fundamental principles of such a governemnt and it's freedoms. (yes this is another contradiction of democracy but that's beside the point)

There are certain things, even on this website that simply cannot be said. But for some reason racism, etc. are not of those.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7521169 - 10/15/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

So basically what you're telling me is you want to restrict natural rights?

By the way, the majority of the shit you posted was humorous, and a great way to actually combat racism if people weren't so uppity/defensive.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7521172 - 10/15/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'm going out, right now, shooting a horse and kicking it untill I get bored.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Mocha Bear]
    #7521208 - 10/15/07 09:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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tclsc03 said:
The thing about that n word that is very interesting to me is that nowadays white people call themselves the word. I remember once when I was walking out the grocery store and these two white guys greeted each other saying 'What's up my nigga' My white friends have said that word around me plenty of times. I think it's all about context really. I'm from Mississippi and I'm the only black person I know that doesn't use the word because I can think of other words to say...but everyone has the right to say what they want. Freedom of Speech. Is it right for rappers to say the word continuously in their music and their white fans to not say it when they're singing the song?

A word is a word. I'm always telling my best friend (who's black) not to call me that but he does it anyway. I know my white friends don't mean anything by it when they say it because they're hanging out with me and after seeing white people calling each other the word I think the word is slowly changing. As time goes by the meaning of certain words can change. I mean gay for instance, back in the day people would say "I'm so very gay today" and nowadays you say that and you're being pulled into church and having holy water tossed on you. I think because of music and because times are changing the 'n' word has just become more accepted.

Of course there's the argument "It's nigga, not nigger" thing which opens a whole different can of worms. Racism is still alive but am I gonna let a word from someone I don't know...used over the internet...mess up my day? No! Now if someone came up to me that I didn't know and used it in a rather rude way then that's totally different.

I think the important thing is to recognize when someone is just joking around and/or being stupid. The tire joke...I'll admit...made me chuckle and I've heard PLENTY of racist jokes (From a Mexican actually) I'm fairly new to this forum and the majority of people here, as far as I can tell, are really cool. I'm not going to write off a forum full of great people just because of a few idiots.



great post.
except for the last sentence.

it seems that even the most logical minded person forgets about the idea of freedom of speech when they go on some "saying nigger = racist" rant.
wouldnt it be considered stereotyping if you hate someone because you heard them use the word "nigger"? as in "all people who use the word nigger are ignorant assholes.... especially if they arent black".

seriously, it is such a short-sighted and ill-conceived "concept" to rally against racism.
here are a few things to think about:
1) the concept of racial pride is in fact, racism. I think many of the "anti-racists" have been deluded by word-hype and spin. think about the pictures that flash in your head when you read the phrases "white pride" and the song title "say it loud, im black and Im proud". One brings to mind a hooded or skinhead figure while the other brings to mind a smiling, sweating james brown.
now what changed? what is the difference? by having racial pride, you have to believe that your race is in someway better, or atleast has overcome the obstacles of diversity, and is ultimately a more cohesive or has a more dignified quality that can be applied to the entire race.
2) it is a fairly immature , hip thing to be "anti-racist". there is some feeling of self-righteousness, like some instilled self-applied goodness, when you start reprimanding someone for their choice of words.... like it proves to everyone and yourself that you are in fact, not a racist.... when ultimately, everyone is.
3) racism is a good thing. first let me give you the two definitions that webster has.
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1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination



People like to believe that racism only means things that are bad. It isnt racist to say that all black guys have huge cocks, but it is racist (some think) to say all black people abuse welfare. It isnt racist to say that asians are good at math, but it is racist to say they are bad drivers.
Just like different breeds of dogs have different characteristics (physically and mentally), so do human beings.... and just like these dogs, we can choose to overcome these genetic boundaries, or we can choose to relish in them and become better at our "god-given talents".
I think to try and act like there are no genetic differences along racial lines is just being ignorant. Would you disagree that black people generally make better athletes than white people? would you disagree that jewish people handle their money better than black people?
it is like some of you are trapped in the rules set forth by preschool, where there are no losers, and there are no scores to games, and if you cant say anything nice, then dont say it at all. well, that isnt the way life works, nor is that the optimal way for life and society to work.
To deny the racist in yourself, is to deny cultural differences. For instance, French people hate it when americans come over and destroy their language with harsh gutteral tones. and we can say "well fuck those faggoty french bastards... all we were trying to do is assimilate and give respect to their culture".... and the french can say "fuck them, we dont want them to try and assimilate, we want them to be american tourists - which is what they are, and maybe act like jerry".
It is merely a cultural misunderstanding. This is all racism is - cultural awkwardness and misunderstanding.
Some might be in a movie theater and a group of racous negro's are being loud and rather annoying, and those some might think "dont these fucking niggers have any decency?"..... then you shhh them, and they think "what is this uppity honky's problem? why do they think they can tell me what to do, because they are white"... basically it is just the way we were raised within our cultural boundaries.
Being racist is like agreeing to disagree... because with so many layers of cultural conditioning, nothing is going to be resolved quickly, nor are you going to have much time to talk things through.
so basically, when someone acts like a nigger, I think "what a filthy nigger", just like when some white person acts like an asshole/honky/cracker they think whatever in their own head.

4) people are racist for a reason. Past experiences made them that way... whatever you want to call it, a personal flaw they need to overcome, get over the past...etc... well, that is the way it is. It isnt like someone wakes up one day and says "man you know, niggers really piss me off".


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7521225 - 10/15/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, the first time I looked at your response half that shit wasn't there, so ignore my first response.


First off, all three of the links you posted from this site are from OTD, a place that explicitly states racism occurs (whether it be serious or in jest.)

You talk of how this is a private, not public, domain. So does that mean automatically that all rules are thrown out the window?
This site was created by a staunch libertarian (if I am correct), and there are many other libertarians that are mods. The way they moderate and run this place, or at least the completely social forums of this place, is going to be influenced by their beliefs. Therefore they will be more willing to allow freedom of speech.

Now that is obviously generalizing. But so is saying that the Shroomery allows and promotes racism. First off the primary argument for this is OTD. OTD =/= the Shroomery. I'm also not painting OTD in a negative light, I lurk there all the time and find the place enjoyable. There are also plenty of mods who shut down threads that promote racism in the Pub, or warn/ban the offending posters. Racist jokes do not promote racism in my mind, so often times that stuff gets left untouched (although not always.)

Basically, what I'm getting at, is I still don't see what your complain is, exactly.

As to your view on the subject, I completely disagree with it, just as I did Boomer's. I'm not going to reiterate my views, if you want to know them, go read my other posts in this thread.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #7521260 - 10/15/07 09:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I liked your post, except....

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YawningAnus said:
People like to believe that racism only means things that are bad. It isnt racist to say that all black guys have huge cocks, but it is racist (some think) to say all black people abuse welfare. It isnt racist to say that asians are good at math, but it is racist to say they are bad drivers.




I'm going to have to disagree with that, completely.
I'd like to see you walk around Chinatown and ask random Asians for help with your calc homework. See how they take to it.
Sure, maybe black guys embrace the notion that their dicks are bigger (according to some studies they are, by about .5 inches on average), but I think most people understand it's still a racist sentiment.


Racism isn't going anywhere, no matter what.
If racism bothers you, then ignore the generalizations and give everyone a fair shot.
Personally, I acknowledge them, but still give everyone a fair shot. And I do this because of the way I grew up. There's really not much you can do about it.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Asante]
    #7521305 - 10/15/07 10:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Black people use the word nigger in just about every third word.





Umm, no?

Thats quite a generalization.




Clarification: In popular culture, and nearly every black person I've met except a few rare ones.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7521614 - 10/15/07 11:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I have no sympathy for people who get butthurt about racism. I've never seen a white guy act all uppety and self-righteous when someone made an unflattering joke about white people... society trains white folk that they're a non-race, and that they should be apologists for hate crimes committed by people they had no control over the actions of.

Political correctness is often just a farce to give other races a hard time under the pretext of equality. It's pretty easy to hate on white people by parading around acting like you're standing up for the minority with frivolous lawsuits and outright blackmail, for example. Don't like white people? Lash out at them by taking every excuse to accuse them of racism and shame them publicly, everyone will rally behind you for being a racist yourself!


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: jewunit]
    #7521688 - 10/15/07 11:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

As a misanthrope, I hate the human race. A disgusting bunch of cattle we are, prone to being lazy, hateful, selfish, greedy fucks. The sad part is, once upon a time in history, people tried not to be all these things. Nowadays, I step out of my front door and it's all I see.

Nothing is safe, no place is sacred (just recently near my home a man was found shot dead in the back of a church), and people kill each other just for looking at them funny or saying a few words. Tolerance is a thing of the past, as well as hard work, charity, courtesy, humility, and character.

Welcome to 2007, folks.


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Premedman1 said:
:lol: I just shat my pants.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #7521842 - 10/16/07 12:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Phoshaman said:
I don't get it. Why is racism so prevalent and accepted by the majority on here? It never used to be like that. I'm not talking about OTD either. I honestly haven't looked in that forum in well over two years. I'm talking about right here in The Pub amongst other areas.

I have at least 3 negative ratings due to me calling out people/giving them negative ratings because of them spewing racial hatred or using bigoted terms (et al. nigger) and such and so.

You would think with the 15 moderators that The Pub has there wouldn't be any problems with stuff like this, but apparently not.

Just my nine cents. Thanks.




I think it's retarded when little white guys use the term "nigger" over teh intarweb. That's just gay. At least in the culture I grew up in.

I think you may be taking all of this too hard, though. Misplaced condemnation.

I enjoy using the terms, "fag", "retard", "homo", "downsie", "cunt", "bitch", "slutwhoreslimedesiree'svagina", etc.

So, to get down to brass tacks: Say whatever you want to say.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #20458627 - 08/22/14 10:44 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

this is a serious problem that needs to be addressed




























































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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: morrowasted]
    #20458654 - 08/22/14 10:50 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Great thread revival.


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #20458655 - 08/22/14 10:51 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

we need fix


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: morrowasted]
    #20462086 - 08/22/14 09:24 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

shits a big deal


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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
    #20462298 - 08/22/14 10:00 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Phoshaman said:
I don't get it.  Why is racism so prevalent and accepted by the majority on here?  It never used to be like that.  I'm not talking about OTD either.  I honestly haven't looked in that forum in well over two years.  I'm talking about right here in The Pub amongst other areas.

I have at least 3 negative ratings due to me calling out people/giving them negative ratings because of them spewing racial hatred or using bigoted terms (et al. nigger) and such and so.

You would think with the 15 moderators that The Pub has there wouldn't be any problems with stuff like this, but apparently not.

Just my nine cents.  Thanks.



u r not the only 1


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