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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: jewunit]
#7519081 - 10/15/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: jewunit]
#7519102 - 10/15/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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boomer q said: racism is dumb...for every racist white person calling black folks niggers and coons, saying how dumb they are, and belong in the jungle, theres a black physics professor failing a white student, or a black doctor diagnosing a white woman with aids, or a black district attorney prosecuting a white man for possessing crack all "races" do the same things...poor white city folks like crack as much as poor black city folks, just like a white crackwhore (of which there are many) has the same chances of getting aids as a black crackwhore
the fact is that black folks are just as good at things as white folks, when give the same circumstances, and racist folk know it
I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you suggesting that while there are white racists, there are no black racists? Simply black people who do the same things as white racists, but not because of racially motivated reasons?
im glad you asked, because upon reading my post, i see why it looks a bit unclear.....
my point is that most racist people take issue with "black" matters such as aids...it was brought up in this thread, i believe, someone said black pussy has aids...i think everyone intellectually understands that the virus doesnt care what color person it infects, correct? black people have a much higher rate of getting aids because of their socioeconomic status, inner city poeple get less sex education, and less education in general, than suburban people....what i was trying to say before is that a white person put in the same situation as a black person (white crackwhore vs black crackwhore) will have the same things going against them...just like how many say that crack is a drug for black folks...poeple here might not espouse this view simply because we here are more drug savy than the average person, but to your average american, the crack problem is a black problem, because its an inner city problem, and black are associated with the inner city... but in truth there are as many white crack addicts as there are black
my comments werent addressing black racism, because there are tons of black racists....this thread was about racsm against blacks on the board...i was simply trying to point out that while racists look at the negative side of "black" (ie. "poor") culture and see crack and aids, they ignore the fact the privilaged black kids from the suburbs do just as well as white kids, there are plenty of black docs and lawyers, and they shouldnt be seen as the exception to the rule, but an example of how nurture can overcome nature
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
#7519113 - 10/15/07 11:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seems like you have an excuse for every thing black.
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
#7519157 - 10/15/07 12:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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So you do, then, acknowledge that there are black racists as well? Because you haven't said it, and you seem to be trying to avoid saying it. That's really what I was asking, in truth I understood your point.
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
#7519177 - 10/15/07 12:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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jewunit said:
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boomer q said: racism is dumb...for every racist white person calling black folks niggers and coons, saying how dumb they are, and belong in the jungle, theres a black physics professor failing a white student, or a black doctor diagnosing a white woman with aids, or a black district attorney prosecuting a white man for possessing crack all "races" do the same things...poor white city folks like crack as much as poor black city folks, just like a white crackwhore (of which there are many) has the same chances of getting aids as a black crackwhore
the fact is that black folks are just as good at things as white folks, when give the same circumstances, and racist folk know it
I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you suggesting that while there are white racists, there are no black racists? Simply black people who do the same things as white racists, but not because of racially motivated reasons?
im glad you asked, because upon reading my post, i see why it looks a bit unclear.....
my point is that most racist people take issue with "black" matters such as aids...it was brought up in this thread, i believe, someone said black pussy has aids...i think everyone intellectually understands that the virus doesnt care what color person it infects, correct? black people have a much higher rate of getting aids because of their socioeconomic status, inner city poeple get less sex education, and less education in general, than suburban people....what i was trying to say before is that a white person put in the same situation as a black person (white crackwhore vs black crackwhore) will have the same things going against them...just like how many say that crack is a drug for black folks...poeple here might not espouse this view simply because we here are more drug savy than the average person, but to your average american, the crack problem is a black problem, because its an inner city problem, and black are associated with the inner city... but in truth there are as many white crack addicts as there are black
my comments werent addressing black racism, because there are tons of black racists....this thread was about racsm against blacks on the board...i was simply trying to point out that while racists look at the negative side of "black" (ie. "poor") culture and see crack and aids, they ignore the fact the privilaged black kids from the suburbs do just as well as white kids, there are plenty of black docs and lawyers, and they shouldnt be seen as the exception to the rule, but an example of how nurture can overcome nature
im not sure how that constitutes trying to avoid saying it.....
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
#7519184 - 10/15/07 12:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It isn't, I just failed to read the last paragraph. The thread really wasn't about any specific racism though, I think you (and some others) chose to make it so because you have an invested interest in it.
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
#7519201 - 10/15/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow.
I got a warning for calling somebody a retard on this thread.
I guess the 15 mods on here can't handle being called out for doing a shitty job moderating this forum.
Fucking ridiculous.
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
#7519212 - 10/15/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Be happy you didn't catch a case of the ban.
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
#7519213 - 10/15/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Phoshaman said: Wow.
I got a warning for calling somebody a retard on this thread.
I guess the 15 mods on here can't handle being called out for doing a shitty job moderating this forum.
Fucking ridiculous.
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
#7519218 - 10/15/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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The retard, as you put it, probably hit the 'notify mod' whistle button. I'd say the mods are doing a pretty good job.
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#7519225 - 10/15/07 12:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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WhiskeyClone said: It's prevalent because it's a cheap way to get a reaction. Same reason there's so much violence and death on TV. Lack of creativity.
It's 'accepted' because this is the internet and we have freedom of speech. I think ignorant comments only hurt the person who made them (and anyone else willing to take them to heart.) Racism has exactly as much power as you want to give it.
Like it or not, in OTD blatant racist speech is a time-honored tradition; it's lost its appeal to me personally. Sometimes the goal is just to entertain each other by being as offensive as possible. I say let them. Participation is voluntary.
There is a tremendous difference between dropping the N-word in a post, and treating an individual like shit because of his/her race. If people have foolish beliefs and opinions about race, let them broadcast their ignorance.
I am happy with The Pub's level of moderation.
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Brainiac]
#7519226 - 10/15/07 12:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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well, you can think that i have an interest in whatever you want, but the truth is that the examples put fourth by the creator of the thread both included the word nigger, as well as many other references to black people (eg. "black pussy has aids" among others) and these were the types of comments to which i was responding
im sorry if i misrepresented myself or my intentions, but next time i would ask that try to understand my point, or at the very least read what i have to say before criticizing me
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: jewunit]
#7519238 - 10/15/07 12:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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boomer q said: im sorry if i misrepresented myself or my intentions, but next time i would ask that try to understand my point, or at the very least read what i have to say before criticizing me
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jewunit said: I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you suggesting that while there are white racists, there are no black racists? Simply black people who do the same things as white racists, but not because of racially motivated reasons?
Practice what you preach, good sir. I admitted I fucked up and didn't read your last paragraph in your last post, but I'm pretty sure the whole time I've been asking questions of your points/intentions to better understand them. You're communication skills seem to be lacking since I'm pretty sure anyone who has read this thread would think you have some sort of agenda regarding racism against blacks, specifically from whites.
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
#7519260 - 10/15/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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just put them on ignore now. i tryed opening that can of worms and all i got was more haters. its just the way of life for some people. in los angeles the racism stays pritty much in the jails and the gangs. but there is hidden undertones.
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: jewunit]
#7519334 - 10/15/07 12:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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jewunit said: So you do, then, acknowledge that there are black racists as well? Because you haven't said it, and you seem to be trying to avoid saying it. That's really what I was asking, in truth I understood your point.
so you did understand my point from the beginning? so that whole thing had nothing to do with helping you understand my point? ahh, i see
as for my agenda, i, (i assume like you) am a fairly well off jewish kid from the suburbs, and i feel like it should be everyones agenda to do away with what racism still abounds in our culture, and the most recently publicized incidents involving racism have been towards blacks, like the recent noose hanging over a doorknob of a black folk (i forget if it was a student, or prof? idk) at columbia university within the last week, and that jena 6 crap (i do think those 6 black kids should go to jail, and that the black community made a rucus over not a whole lot, im just trying to illustrate the more widely publicized incidents of race relations in the US) i think we can agree that universities and small towns alike would be better off with less nooses
i didnt mean to sounds all "black power" if thats the way it came across, a couple of my best friends are black and belong to "black fraternities", and are always talkin race relations. ive told em that i dont like these black fraternities (or any frats, for that matter) because they instill not just "pride" in ones race, but foster feelings of exclusion and "we're better than you". see how heated people get over this race thing? thats why i think it would be better if "race" (skin color) was simply less of a factor in most aspects of life
eliminating racism should be everyones agenda
anyway, sorry to cause a rucus, but you fellas had me feelin quite defensive from the get go, i wasent lookin for an argument
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
#7519358 - 10/15/07 12:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomery always had racists. There are plenty of Nazis here too. Plenty of people that hate blacks. A lot of rednecks too.
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
#7519380 - 10/15/07 12:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I understood the initial point you were making, but I didn't understand if you were denying the fact that there were black racists. I went about asking it in a round-about way to see if I could get you to say it without directly asking or not. When someone admits to something without it being directly asked it makes it more believable on their end (therefore when asked directly it makes it less believable.)
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boomer q said: as for my agenda, i, (i assume like you) am a fairly well off jewish kid from the suburbs
You couldn't be farther from the truth. (Well you could, if we went to a rabbi and asked him if I was Jewish he would say yes, so I guess you got that part right.)
As for the rest of your post... well, I pretty much flat out disagree with it.
And by the way, I have no problems with arguments, I rather enjoy them. I shouldn't have to end arguments in this way, but just because I'm arguing with you doesn't necessarily mean I have some personal problem with you (although depending on the subject matter that may be the case.)
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: jewunit]
#7519434 - 10/15/07 01:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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well, excuse my stereotypical assumptions but most jews i know are middle class and suburban (i guess i know about 3)
im glad we're clear that there are no ill intentions here, i like civil arguments, its how disagreements should be handled
what else about my post do you disagree with? now that we've gotten my intentions and my point out of the way and established that both of us are capable of having a civil disagreement, im interested to hear about what you disagree with regarding my view of racism?
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: boomer q]
#7519459 - 10/15/07 01:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Simply put, racism can be funny and unharmful. It's even funnier when it is antagonizing, you dirty nigger lovers. I think that physical racism, for the most part, is a thing of the past and that a tolerant attitude should not discriminate against offcolor racial terms or jokes.
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Re: Racism on The Shroomery. [Re: Phoshaman]
#7519531 - 10/15/07 01:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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quit complaining about nothing.. if you see such horrible things being said here, then report them.. or leave. instead of making a grumbly whining little post about how everyone else besides you is so evil. and how one term is so innately evil and must never ever be used, no matter what the context or intent .
im friends with several black people. and ill call them a nigger or shitloads of other stupid names whenever i want. just like theyll call me stupid names.. last time i checked its called ribbing. they dont care , i dont care. cause we're not overly sensitive about stupid crap
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