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TheHauntingSoul
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was this dunked properly?
#7517575 - 10/14/07 09:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok so swims cakes have been colonizing very slowly, swim inoculated on august 21st and swim just birthed 2 cakes, one of which is fully colonized (has been for close to a week and the other one is about 98% colonized and has been increasing from about 95% a week ago so swim figured they have had enough time, and swim has 4 other healthy cakes if these 2 don't work out.
anyways swim filled a rubbermaid tub with cold tap water and put the cakes in and put a large vegetable strainer over the top of them to keep them in the water, and then swim poured a shitload of ice in and sealed it up and stuck it in swims closet.
Swim has read that sterility is not a complete necessity at this stage, all the items swim used have been washed recently and swim washed their hands first, swim was just hoping swim did it more or less the right way.
sorry about the whole swim thing btw i know it sounds rediculous...
Edited by TheHauntingSoul (10/14/07 10:00 PM)
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TheHauntingSoul
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RogerRabbit
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Why did you bump your post less than half an hour after making it?
Get that ice out of your soak water. 32F is too cold. RR
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TheHauntingSoul
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thanks for the help... other than that do you think i did everything alright from what i described?
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TheHauntingSoul
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p.s. the tub is not refridgerated it is at room temperature the ice is in it just to keep it cold kuz i cant keep it in the fridge.
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cbiegel
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soaking in room temp water has never seemed to hurt anything. On the other hand neither has doing it in the fridge. As long as the ice melted I'm sure your cakes are soaking up plenty of water. They may take a day or so longer to recover but I'd say that's it.
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TheHauntingSoul
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Re: dunk properly? [Re: cbiegel]
#7518080 - 10/14/07 11:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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its been over a month though... i'm thinking thats because i didnt really 'incubate' them per se but instead just put them in a container on my shelf and they were about 70 degrees most of the time.
I'm investing in a nice incubation setup after this and it will be interesting to see how much better the same strain does in optiumum conditions.
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cbiegel
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Wait, they've been under water for a month? Or do you mean they were in the jars for a month? The second one is fine the first seems bad...
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meatcakeman
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so you dunked them a month ago ....
and now you are waiting for.....????
i hope you're waiting for nothing because that's all your gonna get
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TheHauntingSoul
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no no no i colonized a month ago lol how could i be stupid enough to read a bunch of dunk teks and determine that a month or so in the tank is better than 12 hours?
anyways i'm hoping that the long wait pays off for these babies... the strain was labelled "psilocibe prodigy" and i have no idea what that is
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cbiegel
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As long as you put them back in a FC (after a roll in verm?) I'm sure they'll start pinning...unless the are PR's! Do I seem bitter...;)
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TheHauntingSoul
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Re: dunk properly? [Re: cbiegel]
#7518187 - 10/15/07 12:19 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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someone needs to link to a good abbreviation dictionary for shroomery because i am lost half the time... PR?
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cbiegel
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Oh sorry; PR is Porto Rico which is the one strain I can't get to fruit which is why I'm bitter.
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The Crimson King
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Re: dunk properly? [Re: cbiegel]
#7518201 - 10/15/07 12:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It is a good idea to let your cakes colonize for an extra week or so to ensure that they are infact fully clonized, then dunking should only be done for UP TO 24 HOURS! then they should be put in your fruiting chamber that is at about 60-80% humidity (i dont care what others say but lower sucks, and above 80 is dangerous with evil cultures/contams) let a week pass, and if you have no pins by then, it must be from A) lack of airflow, or B) lack of light. The second that i mentioned is the most likely!
DONT FORGET THE 1/2INCH BED OF DRY VERM on which the cakes will rest. It is very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good luck!! Add a comment to my shiznit if i'm right, i could use the help too!
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TheHauntingSoul
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heres my fc tek thats sort of compiled from a bunch of shit.
i have a moderate sized opaque rubbermaid thats almost airtight except for one whole on each side just under the handle
I'm filling the bottom with an inch and a half of perlite (i think, i'll have to check the teks again for the exact amount) and soaking it like it says in the teks, then once humidity is high i'm popping the cakes in on top of hte lids... whats the dry verm for? Won't it absorb humidity?
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monstermitch
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Quote:
The Crimson King said: It is a good idea to let your cakes colonize for an extra week or so to ensure that they are infact fully clonized, then dunking should only be done for UP TO 24 HOURS! then they should be put in your fruiting chamber that is at about 60-80% humidity (i dont care what others say but lower sucks, and above 80 is dangerous with evil cultures/contams) let a week pass, and if you have no pins by then, it must be from A) lack of airflow, or B) lack of light. The second that i mentioned is the most likely!
DONT FORGET THE 1/2INCH BED OF DRY VERM on which the cakes will rest. It is very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good luck!! Add a comment to my shiznit if i'm right, i could use the help too!
sorry, but I disagree.
-your humidity should be 99% if possible, not 60-80% or whatever.
-high humidity is not your enemy! lack of air exchange is.
-cubes should have 2-4 air exchanges per HOUR.
-after dunking the cake should be rolled in dry vermiculite to fully cover it, then it should be misted accordingly.
-the vermiculite under the cake should be moist, not dry.
there's my two cents.
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cbiegel
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Ah, I'd add both 2-3 inches of more damp perlite and also drill a lot more holes on all sides of the fruiting chamber (FC). This will let the air move around better while still keeping up the humidity. Damp verm is good under an cake when using tinfoil or something to keep it off the perlite. It just adds a pinning area.
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Quote:
TheHauntingSoul said: heres my fc tek thats sort of compiled from a bunch of shit.
i have a moderate sized opaque rubbermaid thats almost airtight except for one whole on each side just under the handle
I'm filling the bottom with an inch and a half of perlite (i think, i'll have to check the teks again for the exact amount) and soaking it like it says in the teks, then once humidity is high i'm popping the cakes in on top of hte lids... whats the dry verm for? Won't it absorb humidity?
Now we get to why you're having trouble. In addition to shocking the mycelium with 32F water(a refrigerator is 45F) you have too little air exchange, and not near enough perlite to provide proper humidity. Leave the lid loose or drill dozens of holes in all six sides of the terrarium for air exchange. Add three to five inches of rinsed, then well drained perlite. Fluff the perlite up by raking your fingers through it every few days. This will keep it evaporating water at a high enough rate to provide the humidity your mushrooms require. RR
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