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andrewss
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thanks for the links, explains the primaries to me better...
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zappaisgod
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Re: Some Ron Paul [Re: BrAiN]
#7519757 - 10/15/07 02:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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BrAiN said: Two years ago... who would have thought Hilary would stand a chance?
Speaking of which... Is there ANYONE here who plans on voting for Hilary? Just out of curiosity. And don't worry, I'm not trying to start a flame war. I just REALLY want to know why (seriously)
Two years ago I thought what I thought now. That Hillary will be nominated and lose. And Ron Paul has zero chance at the Republican nomination. I offer 100-1 odds. Any of you pussies wanna play?
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> Two years ago I thought what I thought now. That Hillary will be nominated and lose.
I hope that you are correct. Not much scares me more than the thought of another eight years of the Clinton Dynasty.
> And Ron Paul has zero chance at the Republican nomination.
Although I wouldn't bet against you, I think the odds are a bit better than they were... as I said in a previous post, it could get interesting. (Then again, I could be wrong...)
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Re: Some Ron Paul [Re: Seuss]
#7519863 - 10/15/07 03:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Some Ron Paul [Re: BrAiN]
#7519925 - 10/15/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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BrAiN said: Ironic ain't it.. that almost the entire shroomery seems to be swaying towards a "republican'
Not so ironic when he is the only candidate who wants to end the war on drugs.
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Re: Some Ron Paul [Re: Minstrel]
#7519988 - 10/15/07 03:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Which, by the way, wouldn't be his decision to make as President.
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BrAiN
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By the time Bush is done hoarding as much power as he can for president.. it WILL be his decision to make. Hehe.
That's just one thing about all the executive prescident (sp?) he's setting.. he just gives THAT much more power to the next president that could very well be a democrat
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Re: Some Ron Paul [Re: BrAiN]
#7520101 - 10/15/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Frankly, I think he is just taking back the power that rightfully belonged to the President and had been usurped by Congress in the wake of the Nixon/Carter horror.
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I think both sides have too much power.. way more than our founding fathers thought there should be/
Shit. The president wasn't even the most powerful person in the Nation until Teddy Roosevelt came along.
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Re: Some Ron Paul [Re: BrAiN]
#7520129 - 10/15/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think they pretty clearly gave him numero uno powers, just not numero only powers. The Supreme Court has gotten way out of hand as well.
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Re: Some Ron Paul [Re: afoaf]
#7520629 - 10/15/07 06:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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afoaf said: why does every Ron Paul video have to have some stupid fucking song playing in the background.
Enough with the music tracks you stupid hippies.
I will indulge you afoaf, even though this is the opposite of what Paul is about, it may be more up your alley-
It's pretty warped, but funny.
Zappa, would you also use your skill for seeing into the future and get me the numbers for Floridas Wednesday night Lotto? Thank you.
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Re: Some Ron Paul [Re: Disco Cat]
#7522465 - 10/16/07 09:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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The numbers came out late Yesterday from the FEC
For anyone interested, Paul again raised more money in Q3 from U.S. Military Personel then any other Republican candidate.
Totals: Ron Paul $40466.72 John McCain $23058.00 Fred Thompson $16748.00 Mitt Romney $8180.00 Rudy Giuliani $6050.00
Detailed data (from Employer data, http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2007/Q3/ ):
Ron Paul
AIR FORCE 50.00 AIR FORCE RESEARCH LAB 100.00 ARMY 250.00 DEPARTMENT OF ARMY 250.00 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 3,150.00 GA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 200.00 NASA 2,200.00 NATIONAL GUARD 500.00 UNITED STATES AIR FORCE 650.00 UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS 2,240.00 UNITED STATES NAVY 2,550.00 US AIR FORCE 1,100.00 US ARMY 14,348.96 US GOVT DEPT OF ARMY 50.00 US NAVY 4,160.00 US NAVY` 500.00 USAF 4,250.00 USAF (RETIRED) 1,300.00 USAF RETIRED 100.00 USMC 500.00 USN 17.76 VIRGINIA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 2,000.00 $40466.72
_______________ Romney: U.S. ARMY 260.00 U.S. GOVERNMENT/D.O.D. 150.00 U.S. NAVY 750.00 U.S. NAVY VETERAN ASSN. 2,300.00 UNITED STATES ARMY 200.00 UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS 300.00 US AIR FORCE 100.00 US ARMY 2,750.00 US ARMY GENERAL COUNSEL OFFICE 200.00 USAF 400.00 USAF RETIRED 250.00 USMC 500.00 NATIONAL GUARD 20.00
$8180
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GIULIANI
U.S. ARMY 250.00 U.S. N.R.C. 300.00 U.S. NAVY 650.00 U.S. NAVY VETERAN'S ASSOCIATION 2,300.00 U.S.M.C. 1,000.00 US DEPT OF THE ARMY 250.00 US NAVY 850.00 USAF 250.00 DC AIR NATIONAL GUARD 200.00
$6050
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MCCAIN
ARMY AIR FORCE EXCHANGE SERVICE (AAFES 250.00 U.S. AIR FORCE 1,420.00 U.S. ARMY 5,180.00 U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS 242.00 U.S. COAST GUARD 100.00 U.S. MARINE CORPS 200.00 U.S. MILITARY 600.00 U.S. NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER 150.00 U.S. NAVY 3,078.00 U.S. NAVY CIVIL SERVICE 200.00 U.S. MILITARY 600.00 UNK 200.00 US AIR FORCE 2,300.00 US ARMY 1,925.00 US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS 175.00 US MARINE CORPS 1,021.00 US NAVAL ACADEMY 100.00 US NAVY 3,067.00 US GOVERNMENT - DEPT OF DEFENSE 1,000.00 USAF 500.00 USAFR 100.00 USMC 500.00 VA NATIONAL GUARD 150.00
$23058
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Fred Thompson
ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 1,000.00 U.S.COAST GUARD RETIRED OFFICER 23.00 DOD 1,000.00 DOD US ARMY (RET) 250.0 U.S. ARMY 925.00 U.S. ARMY TACOM 350.00 U.S. DEPT. OF DEFENSE 250.00 U.S. MARINE CORPS 250.00 U.S. MILITARY 1,000.00 U.S. NAVY 250.00 U.S. NAVY ACTIVE DUTY 500.00 U.S.A.F. 250.00 US AIR FORCE 250.00 US ARMY 1,250.00 US ARMY (RETIRED) 250.00 US NAVY 5,600.00 USAF 1,750.00 USAF (RET) 800.00 USMC 550.00 W.V. AIR NATIONAL GAURD 250.00
$16748
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Madtowntripper
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17.76 from the Navy.
Heh.
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gettinjiggywithit
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Madtowntripper said: 17.76 from the Navy.
Heh.
Where is that figure from?
UNITED STATES NAVY 2,550.00 US NAVY 4,160.00 US NAVY` 500.00
Pauls total from the Navy Branches is $7,210.
edit-I had my question in his quote
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AIR FORCE 50.00 AIR FORCE RESEARCH LAB 100.00 ARMY 250.00 DEPARTMENT OF ARMY 250.00 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 3,150.00 GA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 200.00 NASA 2,200.00 NATIONAL GUARD 500.00 UNITED STATES AIR FORCE 650.00 UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS 2,240.00 UNITED STATES NAVY 2,550.00 US AIR FORCE 1,100.00 US ARMY 14,348.96 US GOVT DEPT OF ARMY 50.00 US NAVY 4,160.00 US NAVY` 500.00 USAF 4,250.00 USAF (RETIRED) 1,300.00 USAF RETIRED 100.00 USMC 500.00 USN 17.76 VIRGINIA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 2,000.00 $40466.72
I dont understand that list.
Several things are listed twice.
Air Force, Marines, Navy, etc.
Hell, Air Force and Army are listed 3 times. 5 if you count "Department of the Army"
Who is putting out these lists?
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I don't get it either. There may be sub branches with variations on the name to them.
The FEC puts it out on the 15th of the month after every quarter of fund raising.
They are the official Federal Elections Commission, that candidates have to report too.
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So, how did he do overall?
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Just to keep a small bit of reality and sanity in this debate, it should be noted that recent fund-raising efforts aside, Ron Paul is still a distant memory on the money list.
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Total Contributions, in Millions of Dollars
Clinton (D) 89.0 Obama (D) 79.4 Romney (R) 61.6 Giuliani (R) 46.7 McCain (R) 31.4 Edwards (D) 30.1 Richardson (D) 18.5 Dodd (D) 13.6 Thompson (R) 12.7 Paul (R) 8.2 Biden (D) 8.1 Brownback (R) 4.1 Tancredo (R) 3.5 Huckabee (R) 2.3 Kucinich (D) 2.1 Hunter (R) 1.9 Thompson (R) 1.1 Cox (R) 1.0 Gilmore (R) 0.4 Gravel (D) 0.2
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fireworks_god said: So, how did he do overall?
He's 4th in Cash on Hand.
The first figure is money raised for the 3rd quarter only. The second figure is any debt they have and the third figure is minus their debt- Cash On Hand- That's what they have to spend starting out Q4 with.
Romney, though in debt, just owes himself. He has been his largest contributor. His debt could be wiped away. He is worth $300,000,000. and can loan his campaign mega bucks anytime.
Giuliani – 16,649,825.65 – 169,255.74 = 16,480,569.91
Romney – 9,216,517.36 – 17,350,000.00 = -8,133,482.64
Thompson F. – 7,121,744.26 – 678,432.01 = 6,443,312.25
Paul – 5,443,667.05 – 0 = 5,443,667.05
McCain – 3,488,627.91 – 1,730,690.84 = 1,757,937.07
Huckabee – 651,300.68 – 47,810.16 = 603,490.52
Brownback – 94,653.58 – 0 = 94,653.58
Hunter – 132,741.62 – 50,000.00 = 82,741.62
Tancredo – 110,079.37 – 295,603.04 = -185,523.67
Thompson T. – 579.86 - 221,540.01 = -220,960.15
Cox – 1,963.63 – 1,025,000.00 = -1,023,036.37
Mad Town,
Indeed, the Democrats cleaning house raising funds. I'm sure some of it is for the Universal healthcare, yet most is for the hopes they will end this war.
Ron Paul will get our troops out ASAP and is not salivating to bomb Iran.
None of the Democratic front runners could or would commit to having the troops out by 2013, when asked that question in their last debate.
The American people at large against the war will vote for a DEM and if they get in, NOTHING will change with the Iraq war and we will still bomb Iran. Hillary voted in favor of a bill recently that essential gives the go ahead to do just that.
Note that Paul and Brownback are the ONLY 2 Republicans with Zero debt. Gives you an idea of their spending habits.
edit-color correction.
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gettinjiggywithit said:
The American people at large against the war will vote for a DEM and if they get in, NOTHING will change with the Iraq war and we will still bomb Iran.
Absolutely False.
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Obama has a plan to immediately begin withdrawing our troops engaged in combat operations at a pace of one or two brigades every month, to be completed by the end of next year. He would call for a new constitutional convention in Iraq, convened with the United Nations, which would not adjourn until Iraq's leaders reach a new accord on reconciliation. He would use presidential leadership to surge our diplomacy with all of the nations of the region on behalf of a new regional security compact. And he would take immediate steps to confront the ongoing humanitarian disaster in Iraq.
The goal of the surge was to create space for Iraq's political leaders to reach an agreement to end Iraq's civil war. At great cost, our troops have helped reduce violence in some areas of Iraq, but even those reductions do not get us below the unsustainable levels of violence of mid-2006. Moreover, Iraq's political leaders have made no progress in resolving the political differences at the heart of their civil war.
Wether you agree with The War or not, you have to realize that immediately pulling out all the troops would be an absolute bloodbath. Even your Fairy-Tale Pie-In-The-Sky Candidate must be able to see THAT.
You need to have some sort of PLAN to get them out in a responsible manner. You Broke It, You Buy It.
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