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Knoa6
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My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! (better pic)
#7517326 - 10/14/07 08:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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well I really hope these take.

 the seedlings are about 3 weeks old on Pereskiopsis the graft was done 2 days ago.
Thank you Uarewotueat for making this possible! any comments, tips, or reassurance is greatly appreciated! thanks Ethnobotanical Garden for the wealth of valuable info condensed into one forum! knoa6
Edited by Knoa6 (11/04/07 11:46 PM)
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7517435 - 10/14/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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nice! good luck. my cats destroyed all of my loph grafts.
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: waixingren]
#7517638 - 10/14/07 09:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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those look ok 
how long have they been grafted? did u put them into high humidity after they were grafted?
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#7517680 - 10/14/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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looking good. i would personally cut off those unused branches though.
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7517708 - 10/14/07 10:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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good luck!
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Knoa6
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#7517854 - 10/14/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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uarewotueat said: those look ok 
how long have they been grafted? did u put them into high humidity after they were grafted?
goodluck!
I grafted them almost 72 hours ago. They have been in 90-100% RH until I took it out of my indoor flouro greenhouse to take pics then put em right back in back in. No glue was used..
I hope they make it.
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7517861 - 10/14/07 10:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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glue??
i have never heard of using glue
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Knoa6
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: kadakuda]
#7517867 - 10/14/07 10:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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kadakuda said: looking good. i would personally cut off those unused branches though.
Already did..he he thanks
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Knoa6
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: royer]
#7517885 - 10/14/07 10:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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royer9864 said: glue??
i have never heard of using glue
You've never heard of using super glue for Tricocereus grafts?? I've never heard of it used for Loph/Peres grafts myself; thats why I didn't use it.
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7517918 - 10/14/07 10:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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ahahaa wtf glue? good luck
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: wutang]
#7518001 - 10/14/07 11:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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They look fabulous. I know they'll be successful.
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Knoa6
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7518036 - 10/14/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Knoa6 said:
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royer9864 said: glue??
i have never heard of using glue
You've never heard of using super glue for Tricocereus grafts?? I've never heard of it used for Loph/Peres grafts myself; thats why I didn't use it.
come to think of it I remember an old thread Felixhigh posted in about using superglue for Loph grafts. Let me try to find the link.. couldn't find it- it was pretty old from I think 2001. I remember felixhigh talking about grafting the bottom half of the scion in the thread, but it was not his original thread. Can't remember who started it..
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: biospun]
#7518041 - 10/14/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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biospun said: They look fabulous. I know they'll be successful.
Thanks baby
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7518098 - 10/14/07 11:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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glue is bad  and yeah those grafts look great   congrats
Edited by cpw1971 (10/14/07 11:47 PM)
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7518359 - 10/15/07 03:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Knoa6 said:
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uarewotueat said: those look ok 
how long have they been grafted? did u put them into high humidity after they were grafted?
goodluck!
I grafted them almost 72 hours ago. They have been in 90-100% RH until I took it out of my indoor flouro greenhouse to take pics then put em right back in back in. No glue was used..
I hope they make it.
they should make it, leave them in the humidity chamber for a few more days and then take them out...
superglue isnt recommended, and not at all necessary for seedling grafts (theres enough cell sap to stick them) but u sure as hell can use glue for grafting larger scions
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#7518414 - 10/15/07 05:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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uarewotueat , you should make a Peyote seedling to Pereskiopsis grafting Tek since your the graft master, I think it would help alot of people here.
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7518433 - 10/15/07 05:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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alright i will, im planning on doing some more seedling grafts sometime soon so i shall do a pictorial then
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Knoa6
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#7520092 - 10/15/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm looking forward to it! Didn't you just get a new camera with great macro?
Oh BTW, how long to you guys think it will be before I notice some swelling of the scion?
Edited by Knoa6 (10/15/07 04:07 PM)
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Knoa6
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7521565 - 10/15/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I see no sign of scion swelling yet, but they seem stuck. Is it ok to use a little fertilizer at this point?
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7521581 - 10/15/07 10:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looking good, just be patient man! 
What are the spiny cacti behind? Are they flowering?
FH
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7522157 - 10/16/07 06:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm looking forward to it! Didn't you just get a new camera with great macro?
not great but its ok.
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Oh BTW, how long to you guys think it will be before I notice some swelling of the scion?
should plump up noticably within a week or so.
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I see no sign of scion swelling yet, but they seem stuck. Is it ok to use a little fertilizer at this point?
ive never given any fertilizer to any of my grafts.
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7525821 - 10/16/07 10:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by spacemonster (11/20/09 04:35 PM)
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: spacemonster]
#7526551 - 10/17/07 02:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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too much nutrient can cause the scion to split also... i always advise not to give cacti a great deal of fertiliser... especially with the slower growing species...
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#7573249 - 10/29/07 02:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here's an update.... Looks as if 1 graft took and 1 failed..... Definite swelling of one scion and the other looks like a raisin.

 sorry that my camera sucks for macro shots.......
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: felixhigh]
#7573354 - 10/29/07 03:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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felixhigh said: Looking good, just be patient man! 
What are the spiny cacti behind? Are they flowering?
FH
It's a Trichocereus cuzcoensis hybrid of some sort I believe.... But that's just a guess. I have posted it on here for a cactus ID without an answer. Oh and sorry it took so long for the response. this is the bloom.
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: felixhigh]
#7573475 - 10/29/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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some sexy looking cacti hope it holds.
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7573652 - 10/29/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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they look fine knoa, u should take them out of the humidity chamber already if they are still in there
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#7573672 - 10/29/07 05:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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How far away from a 150 watt clf would be good?
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7573687 - 10/29/07 05:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i should think u could have them quite close seen as they give off little heat, but having never used them myself im not sure... trial and error is best... keep moving them closer, if the scions begin to turn red/purple u will know its too close
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7574796 - 10/29/07 10:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cool, amazing flower! Thank you!
I´m glad your graft worked! 
FH
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: felixhigh]
#7575205 - 10/30/07 01:10 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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my grafts get sun burn under 2 20 watt cfl at 12". flouro's may be pussy light to you pot growers, but they still burn cacti babies 
i would try at a couple feet away and see. its just the first little while it will matter, over time you can move them closer.
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: kadakuda]
#7575646 - 10/30/07 07:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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cool i got a 15 watt
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Knoa6
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: wutang]
#7594166 - 11/04/07 11:05 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's starting to look nice. I plan on trying more this evening.
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7595026 - 11/04/07 03:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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u should cut the other branch off the stock if its not holding another scion...
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#7595182 - 11/04/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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3 week seedlings..not bad
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Knoa6
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#7596638 - 11/04/07 09:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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uarewotueat said: u should cut the other branch off the stock if its not holding another scion...
I don't have much pereskiopsis left and many seedlings so I plan to use that branch soon. Used some for these....

 plus I gave a few away to a cactophile... I may make a post in the marketplace to see if anyone has extra for sale.
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7597118 - 11/05/07 12:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't have much pereskiopsis left and many seedlings so I plan to use that branch soon.
u could cut it off and root it, having 2 scions taking energy from one root system is a disadvantage to say the least...
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Knoa6]
#7597153 - 11/05/07 12:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i like those, the first is an astrophytum i guess, wots the other one?
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Re: My first Peyote grafts! wish me luck! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#7597474 - 11/05/07 06:22 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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plaid cactus i believe Gymnocalycium mihanovichii
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