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71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? (update w/ mature mushroom pics)
    #7516303 - 10/14/07 03:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I spent a lot of time getting all this rye prepared to perfection. I'm just about ready to move into the next stage. I'm look for some advice on what would likely achieve maximum results. I have Calcium carbonate, lots of verm, lots of gypsum, and a miracle grow peat most garden soil. I also have a small amount of coir. but probably not enough to make a difference. I don't have a ton of space to work with either. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated!

This is just some mycoporn i took a few months ago. I used some WBS in pint jar and dunked and rolled heavily in verm. I did this with rye also, but overall i got better results with these two WBS cakes (Stropharia Urisnesia):








^Here's a picture of a few PF tek cakes i have going now. I had a bit too much rye for the last quart jars i pcd so i used a pint jar and i might dunk and roll it later.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7516499 - 10/14/07 04:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thats some interesting results using grains as a cake, rather than casing.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7516507 - 10/14/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the cakes are wbs...


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: Optx]
    #7517627 - 10/14/07 09:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

71 quarts of spawn?? Wow. Spawn to EVERYTHING. Shit, dude, see if you can colonize a couch.

Even if you spawned 1:1, that's still over 20 large sweater boxes...


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: Bacchus]
    #7517665 - 10/14/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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71 quarts of spawn?? Wow. Spawn to EVERYTHING. Shit, dude, see if you can colonize a couch.




OMG!  That shit is Funny!  :rofl:


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: Bacchus]
    #7519458 - 10/15/07 01:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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71 quarts of spawn?? Wow. Spawn to EVERYTHING. Shit, dude, see if you can colonize a couch.

Even if you spawned 1:1, that's still over 20 large sweater boxes...




I'm quite the idiot when it comes to spawning. I have never done it, but from what i read it really yields good results. Any links you have for some good spawn guides? I suppose i will need some hpoo. huh.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7519504 - 10/15/07 01:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You don't have a ton of space but you have 71 jars?  :rofl:

I can't wait to see what happens.  :popcorn:


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: mushbaby]
    #7519659 - 10/15/07 02:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

how did you find yourself ass deep in spawn w/ no idea what you're doing next?

poor planning...

the only thing you listed that would do you any good as the bulk of your substrate to spawn to is coir. Find yourself some more coir and/or hpoo and/or straw and/or compost and start spawning sweater boxes or mono-tubs. Check out the archive: Substrates.

or just crumble those all and case straight, i suppose.. but that seems like a waste after you've gone through all this trouble.

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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: Yoschie99]
    #7519858 - 10/15/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:mushroomgrow: damn man... 71 qt's!?  bout time to go to walmart and buy you some tubs i think...  and a butt load of coir, or whatever your going to use :mushroomgrow:


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: mushbaby]
    #7519956 - 10/15/07 03:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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You don't have a ton of space but you have 71 jars?  :rofl:






HA !  :sun:  MB does have a valid point !

How much square footage do the jars take up ?
When they are empty, that should free up some room...

Please post pictures - sounds like a fun problem to have !


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: Tactile Tunafish]
    #7520523 - 10/15/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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When they are empty, that should free up some room...




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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7520567 - 10/15/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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71 quarts of spawn?? Wow. Spawn to EVERYTHING. Shit, dude, see if you can colonize a couch.




OMG!  That shit is Funny!  :rofl:




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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7520678 - 10/15/07 06:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well, since i do have so much i figured i would have enough to experiment with.  I was hoping for some ideas here.  I will spend the week reading over the spawning guides.  i also bought RR's dvd a while back and might try something on there.  the 71 jars don't take up a ton of space.  I could probably fit more than a few hundred in my martha.  The not havinga  lot of space comment was more directed toward the tubs.  i don't have a lot of space to put 20 huge tubs out filled with spawn.  I will try to obtain a fair amount of hpoo this weekend.  Then i should be ready to go.  :laugh:  Here are a few pictures of where the jars are now - or were at on saturday...




As you can see 71 jars is only 5 boxes of 12 with 11 left over.  i could fit over 200 in that martha closet.  not that i would.  just could. 


^This one is of some that i did a while ago.  Cakes are probably either WBS or rye and the casing is a simple rye cased with peat and verm 50/50. 

Yeah, i did start this project without a clear direction - only knowing where i want to end up.  It's OK because i have about 10 days or so before all 71 are colonized.  So i will probably do a number of different things with the mycelium.  Case a few, I really want to try my hand at spawning.  I have a couple of really big tubs i can use for the project.  now is the time to really start the projects.  I can't wait to get all this stuff up and going.  any feedback is welcomed.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7520727 - 10/15/07 07:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

all i can say is if everything goes as planned.... you'll be rolling around in mushies:monkeydance:


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7520740 - 10/15/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

How many days did it take you to PC those?
Whatever you do,can you keep us informed?Im curious how these turn out.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: nw_shroomy]
    #7520866 - 10/15/07 08:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Here's my PC:



It holds 14 quarts at a time. It's the best investment i have made in the last year. When i prepared the grain I rinsed it off several times then soaked 12-16 hours then rinsed again then simmered for 25-30 minutes. THen i pc'd em for 60 minutes at 15psi. Then i took them out the pc the next morning and let them sit in the dark for 1 week before doing a g2g. I did this each weekend for the last 5 or 6. It has worked out nicely so far. Only a very few contams and stalled jars this time around. I suspect this is partially because i am now using the martha as an incubator as opposed to the tit.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7520967 - 10/15/07 08:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

very nice indeed furrowed.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: Funkatron9000]
    #7521203 - 10/15/07 09:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I was just teasing you furrowed. But seriously, I didn't think the jars took up that much space. The point I was trying to make is that when (if) you spawn you are doing it at a ratio. So what is now 71 jars will be more after spawning.

But hey it's cool.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: mushbaby]
    #7521240 - 10/15/07 09:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Make a giant poo grow.
1.)Go get all of the hpoo in your town.
2.) Sterilize ur bath tub or go buy one of those little kids size pools/
3.) Put all that shit in the tub/pool.
4.)Case it or w/e.
5.) ?????
6.) Post pics of a miniature mushroom forest.

Seriously dude, do something crazy. I would probably +5 u.
If you don't have a lot of space, you could fill the martha, and use the rest to do a 4-OH-DMT extraction. T


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: Pooter]
    #7521314 - 10/15/07 10:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Buy a lorry load of hpoo and rent a bulldozer, then you can go outdoors, rofl


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: Nibin]
    #7521774 - 10/16/07 12:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

heres a real idea for you dude...

if youre going to have a little space outside of the martha available and want to try spawning like you said, go to walmart and buy three or four of the biggest tubs they have (the colored ones) and make some monster monotubs out of coir or hpoo or both or whatever. make the substrate as deep as you feel possible, I've heard 6 inches is the max you should go, but I bet if you used a really high spawn rate you could colonize a nice chunk of substrate. the deeper the sub, the bigger the mushies!!

not only will that take up a lot of your spawn, but it won't take up much more floor space then 1 of the tubs would, you could stack three or four of them pretty easily. then use the rest of your spawn in your martha or in more tubs.

monotubs kick ass dude. :mushroom2:

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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: headieherbs] * 1
    #7522127 - 10/16/07 05:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

try and duplicate THIS!

by my rudimentary maths, there's the possibility for ~20# dry in front of you.

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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: Yoschie99]
    #7522463 - 10/16/07 09:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

wow thats a lot of quart jars :shocked:


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: large_dose]
    #7525107 - 10/16/07 08:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I was just teasing you furrowed.  But seriously, I didn't think the jars took up that much space.  The point I was trying to make is that when (if) you spawn you are doing it at a ratio.  So what is now 71 jars will be more after spawning. 

But hey it's cool.




Oh yeah, lol.  I will have to refer you to my earlier comment about being an idiot with spawn.  I already have a better idea of how it's all going to work.  Now I just need to get some coir and some hpoo.  This will be my first time working with horse shit so im excited.  I will definitely try to replicate what Akira has done in that post, Yoschie99.  Now we all just need to be patient.  I hate this part of the hobby.  Oh well, gives me time to prepare everything a bit.  Thanks for all your comments thus far!  :mushroom2:  :cheers:


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7525530 - 10/16/07 09:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'm excited for you! I can't wait to see pics through out the grow and the harvest.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: robanero]
    #7529473 - 10/17/07 10:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

you should do a grain to grain and bump those to 1000 :rolleyes:

shit, you got a pc big enough!


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: large_dose]
    #7560900 - 10/25/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

huge ass pc
dude you made 71 qrts with no idea what next??

run to walmart and buy some tubs and make a shitload of monotubs


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: wutang]
    #7560919 - 10/25/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Dam and I though I was going to have alot of mushys:shocked:


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7561932 - 10/26/07 06:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

this has sparked me to possibly make 77 quarts of WBS spawn, buy a kiddie pool, put all the spawn in, put in 10-20 bricks of hydrated coir or more with verm and maybe a tiny bit of calcium carbonate on top, then case it 50/50 and buy a bunch of humidifiers from wal-greens to make my room humid. would that be the biggest indoor grow or has that been done before?


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: ButterWeasels]
    #7562117 - 10/26/07 08:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I've already decided to take all my furniture to the storage warehouse and line the floor with black garden mat then do the above spawning strategy.  I will probably use a 3 foot substrate depth.  Should yield some tree sized mushrooms.  :laugh:


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7563133 - 10/26/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't kept up enough to know if the above handful of comments are jokes or not...the bottom 2 1/2 feet of that would go anaerobic. No more than 4-6 inches.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: ButterWeasels]
    #7563348 - 10/26/07 01:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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this has sparked me to possibly make 77 quarts of WBS spawn, buy a kiddie pool, put all the spawn in, put in 10-20 bricks of hydrated coir or more with verm and maybe a tiny bit of calcium carbonate on top, then case it 50/50 and buy a bunch of humidifiers from wal-greens to make my room humid. would that be the biggest indoor grow or has that been done before?




Doubt it highly.. There are peopel that have entire basements gtowing.. besides that almost ALL musshies are grown indoors..


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: Slimz]
    #7563458 - 10/26/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think the best idea is with one of those cheap kid pools from walmart.. that would be the coolest casing ever. And it would take up a lot less space than anything else.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7563629 - 10/26/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I haven't kept up enough to know if the above handful of comments are jokes or not...the bottom 2 1/2 feet of that would go anaerobic. No more than 4-6 inches.




Yeah, i was just kidding and I bet a few others were in this post too. All in good fun. My plan is to get some hpoo (still haven't done that yet, it's top of the priority list this weekend though) and some coir too. I think i have everyhting else i need. But i will spawn in some monotubs and a few casings as well.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: Nibin]
    #7563651 - 10/26/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You should do this again next spring and spawn a mother load outdoor grow.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: WWorker]
    #7565683 - 10/27/07 03:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

That would rule :thumbup:


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7566275 - 10/27/07 10:13 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Seems to me that monotub is going to be the way. Amazing how well those work even in marginal conditions. I live in the desert and have had at least some success without a humidifier. It wasn't ideal for me but if I had 71 qts to deal with I would consider it. If you can get the moisture content right to begin with, you will save yourself a lot of trouble. Search for the "bulk neglect" report; you have more degrees of freedom than you might think, especially if environmental conditions aren't extreme.

Monotubs are stackable and so they don't necessarily take up a ton of space. You're gonna spend a fortune on tupperware but if you look around you can find suitable containers in bulk (check office supply stores and home depot as well as walmart). You will probably want to invest in a dremel tool or a cordless drill with a set of saw bits.

You're gonna be a busy fellow come picking time. Next thing you need to think about is preserving your crop. You're going to need a dehydrator, or else you will need a lot of real estate to air- or sun-dry those babies.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: DavidP]
    #7566852 - 10/27/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Seems to me that monotub is going to be the way.  Amazing how well those work even in marginal conditions.  I live in the desert and have had at least some success without a humidifier.  It wasn't ideal for me but if I had 71 qts to deal with I would consider it. If you can get the moisture content right to begin with, you will save yourself a lot of trouble.  Search for the "bulk neglect" report; you have more degrees of freedom than you might think, especially if environmental conditions aren't extreme.

Monotubs are stackable and so they don't necessarily take up a ton of space.  You're gonna spend a fortune on tupperware but if you look around you can find suitable containers in bulk (check office supply stores and home depot as well as walmart).  You will probably want to invest in a dremel tool or a cordless drill with a set of saw bits. 

You're gonna be a busy fellow come picking time. Next thing you need to think about is preserving your crop.  You're going to need a dehydrator, or else you will need a lot of real estate to air- or sun-dry those babies.




I have a small 5 tray american harvest snackmaster dehydrator.  It will be way too small.  I'm going to go pick up some poo today.  yeaa!  Something i've been wanting to do for many months now.  Read up on the forums about what to look for and watched RR's dvd section on horse manure and then read 20 or so pages from The Mushroom Cultivator.  I think i am ready to go.  :laugh:  See you laterz....


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7566929 - 10/27/07 02:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

jeesus christ. lol. id say go to your nearest college and sell it off at 150 a zip. then take a year off from growing. put some of your savings in metals. and stay the fuck out of trouble lol.


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    #7566983 - 10/27/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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    #7567326 - 10/27/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I have a small 5 tray american harvest snackmaster dehydrator. It will be way too small.




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    #7567360 - 10/27/07 05:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thats an awesome grow! i would love to see a pic of a kiddie pool, but what about contams? i say u buy the pool AND some mini tubs, and do it that way, put tubs into the pool and regulate pool. That way it stops contam spread, and you dont loose 71 qts worth of cube goodness.


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    #7567374 - 10/27/07 05:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well I now have about 25 lbs of poo. I will try it out this week and if i have success i will move on to the rest of the spawn. I also ordered 3 coir bricks. should be here this week as well. i will post some pics of the poo and this one test i do in the next few days.


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I have a small 5 tray american harvest snackmaster dehydrator. It will be way too small.




Yeah, you're going to need about 20 more trays...




Luckily, I live in a location that has a ton of thrift stores around. those are usually easy to find. As opposed to a large AA pc. lol, not too many people seem to take those into the goodwill's or thrift stores, ime.


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    #7570188 - 10/28/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Just finished the labor for this test run.  Got the hpoo, see:



so i pasteurized it for an hour and a half or so at 170 degrees with a 10 lb weight on it. That was after i mixed with 10% verm and 5% gypsum.  i let it drain overnight and when i checked it this morning i felt that it was right at field capacity.  :laugh:  So i went ahead and got cleaned up and added the rye over a layer of poo and then the rest of the poo on top of that.  covered with foil and incubated.

And this is what it looked like when i put it into the incubator:



time to wait and plan the big one.  This small one got a little messy so i might need to buy some more utensils. i also have 3 bricks of coir coming if i didn't mention that above.


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    #7594355 - 11/04/07 12:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

^That was last Sunday.^

This was taken today:



This was just a test to make sure i was doing things properly before going in head first with bulk. It appears to be going like gangbusters! I'm happy with that progress. When i do the bulk grow i will mix the rye with the poo instead of layering it. I would just HATE to have a contam on one of the bulk tubs.


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    #7594530 - 11/04/07 12:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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    #7594606 - 11/04/07 01:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Man, that is beautiful! I would take that recipe and times it times 10! Let's get this show on the road!


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    #7596032 - 11/04/07 07:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I prepared the tub today.  And in the next hour i will be getting the hpoo ready to go.  The tricky part is going to be preparing the appropriate amount of shit. 

I got a couple of 5 gallon paint strainers and two can fit nicely overtop of the PC.  It will make my PC a little nasty but I'm no stranger to cleaning up. 



I tested a prior casing mix and here's what it was:




^As you can see I have put 8 holes in this tub (I have another one i can use as well.  :smile:.  The 6 hoes on each of the long sides will have polyfil in them.  The sides that have one hole in them have tyvek on each side with gorilla tape to keep in place. 



So I am thinking about hooking up a couple of these tubs to something like what Akira has here:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6967150/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/5

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    #7596107 - 11/04/07 08:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

NICE FUCKNG GROW!

i use the same tubs



im going to be getting a bigger PCer here soon and my glovebox. ill be doing the same thing you are. lots and lots of spawn. i have 40day old spawn right now that needs to be used asap.

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Hey homeless, is that substrate in that pic really uneven?


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no its even as hell. the condensation on the inside makes it look uneven though


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    #7599438 - 11/05/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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NICE FUCKNG GROW!

i use the same tubs



im going to be getting a bigger PCer here soon and my glovebox. ill be doing the same thing you are. lots and lots of spawn. i have 40day old spawn right now that needs to be used asap.

again... AWESOME!




I've never used this type of rubbermade for a grow so im curious to see how it works out. Unlike most of them you see around here this is shallow and long. I'm concerned that i put the bottom holes too low though. The middle of the bottom holes are 5.75 in from the bottom of the tub. I will make it work out i guess. Hopefully, i will remember to leave room for the casing layer. lol.

On a side note: I went to a local Seattle based coffee house today and they were kind enough to give me about 40 lbs of spent grinds. I haven't read much about supplementing with coffee so i will spend the next few days reviewing that information. Would i get any recommendations on here from ppl's personal experience? any specific sites you might have bookmarked on this additive?


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    #7599678 - 11/05/07 06:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

the holes on my tub are on 5" from the bottom and the top ones are 8" about that. becareful with coffee. use it or throw it out.



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    #7616388 - 11/09/07 06:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)



:shocked:

And now for the casing layer.  I am going to put everything together this weekend.  I have my poo ready for mass pasteurization.  Each day this weekend i will be doing something - tonight im cleaning up and getting my poo all broken up.  tomorrow pasteurize and the following day i will put it all in the tubs.  that reminds me I also need to create another tub for my coir and coffee grow.  Damn this is going to keep me very busy this weekend.  I just hope i can show you guys something really cool after i get everything fruiting.


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    #7616849 - 11/09/07 09:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks, that last picture the myc had some condensation on it and that is what's causing the slight discoloration and glare in some places.

Just went through my jars and found a few nasties!  This happened to me before and I was hoping that using this different method of incubation would stop this from happening.  I need some help in identifying what this condition is.  It appears to be a decomposition of the mycelium.  :frown:  Whatever it is I got my money on throwing these jars out:



Now these ones below this text have not progressed to the stage of the ones in the pic above.  I am wondering if someone with more experience can tell me about this condition and more specifically how I can prevent this from happening.  I will make the decision to use these jars after i try breaking them up.  If they look yukie i will throw em out. 



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And now for the casing layer.  I am going to put everything together this weekend.  I have my poo ready for mass pasteurization.  Each day this weekend i will be doing something - tonight im cleaning up and getting my poo all broken up.  tomorrow pasteurize and the following day i will put it all in the tubs.  that reminds me I also need to create another tub for my coir and coffee grow.  Damn this is going to keep me very busy this weekend.  I just hope i can show you guys something really cool after i get everything fruiting.




wow .. keep your hands away from that .. it looks like it wants to reach out and grab ya ! very rhizomrphic growth .. thats a good one to
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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7616857 - 11/09/07 09:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like the disgusting ones had some kind of major bacterial and mold contams. I see what looks like it might be grey fuzz in those jars along with the nasty liquid.


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    #7616863 - 11/09/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

that is metabolites .. the by product of the mycelium .. the shroom piss if you will .. I think they were in the jars way tooo oooo ooolong


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that is metabolites .. the by product of the mycelium .. the shroom piss if you will .. I think they were in the jars way tooo oooo ooolong




That's basically what i was thinking. However, some of those really nasty jars were g2g'd on 10/13. I wouldn't think that would be too long. I mean it was just these few jars that developed to this condition - why them and not the others? Thanks for responses!


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    #7617011 - 11/09/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry, I just found the answer...

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A large amount of metabolites generally means a bit of bacteria in the jar. The metabolites are antibiotic secretions, so when they're in large amounts, it usually means something is up. High colonization temps will also lead to metabolite production, so remember to colonize jars at room temperature.

A jar with a good filter will contain any contaminants that are within, so don't toss it out. Don't use any jar with a lot of metabolites for grain to grain transfers, but if they colonize fine, they're good to use for spawning to bulk.
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    #7617087 - 11/09/07 10:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Gotta say Furrowed - this looks like its shaping up to be one hell of a grow...can only hope mine goes anywhere near as well! PS and by the by, good work on searching and finding and answer to your metabolite probs! Dang about the jars going south - but I'm guessing the others more than make up for it ;D

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    #7617116 - 11/09/07 10:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Not only do you have absolutely zero reason for saying that, the picture isn't even high-quality enough to give you a clue.

As for the contaminated jars, those are disgusting. They appear to have standing water high up in the jar. I'm guessing you followed some method that tried to hydrate while you pressure cooked?

Contrary to the RR quote given above, those jars are definitely not spawn material. He's talking about a small band of antibiotic metabolites around a single infection, not half your jar submerged in contaminated water.


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^Interesting. Any other opinions out there?

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    #7617678 - 11/10/07 05:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It's metabolites. They'll often pool up like that if left too long, usually months. If they have that much metabolite pooling after a few weeks, toss them.
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Thanks RR!

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    #7620485 - 11/10/07 10:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

lol, my kitchen looks like a shitbomb went off. here's my PC, covered in filth.



And here are the first two of my five gallon paint strainer bags full of pasteurized poo. I have four of those bags total done now. Each weighs approx 10 lbs. I will let them drain and dry out a little over night. What a busy day. I am very tired now. good night shrooomery patrons!



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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7620592 - 11/10/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've always been grossed out from horse shit since I was a little kid when I was horseback riding and the horse in front of me kept shitting it was so gross. Does it make your house smell like shit?


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    #7620690 - 11/10/07 11:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, temporarily. it's not too bad. I don't even notice it after a while anyway. I also light up a lot of incense. Bad smells seem to be a big part of this hobby.


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    #7620754 - 11/11/07 12:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:poopbanana:


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    #7620949 - 11/11/07 01:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The ryhzo growth in that bulk tray looks amazing! I can't wait to spawn to hpoo.

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    #7621149 - 11/11/07 06:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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that is metabolites .. the by product of the mycelium ..




Not only do you have absolutely zero reason for saying that, the picture isn't even high-quality enough to give you a clue.
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    #7622223 - 11/11/07 02:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you shouldnt use anything porus such as a paint strainer ot a pillow case. all the nutrients in the poo will stay in the water that you dump out. plastic oven bags work wonders :mushroom2:

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    #7622577 - 11/11/07 04:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmmm.  I wonder how that will effect the outcome of this grow.  I have heard that some of the nutrients are left in the water, the reason people save the hpoo water.  I just discarded that water too.  I dont have any real need for it at this point anyway.   

I just loaded up tub with the poo and rye.  It's all mixed up and at a depth of approx. 5 inches.  I used 8 quart jars of rye on this one.  makes me REALLY wonder what im going to do with all the others.  lol.  I guess i will be staying busy for a while.  I only used 2 of those large bags of poo.  so i have enough poo done for another tub like this one.  I have all the materials to make another tub too.  :laugh:  i've also got plans to get this coir and coffee grow underway.  Here's a few pictures.






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    #7648026 - 11/17/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

^I just checked out the above tub and it looks great.  It looks like it is coming together just like the little one i did earlier in this thread.  :laugh:  Now here's the kicker.  I am going to be heading out of town on tuesday and wont be back until Sunday.  I am thinking about just dropping the temp down lower to stall the growth a bit while im gone.  When i come back it would be ready for casing.  I guess i will decide what to do on monday.


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    #7648608 - 11/17/07 07:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)





more progress than i had anticipated. There sure was a lot of condensation on the plexiglass and on the sides of the tub. i wiped it all down though.


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    #7650563 - 11/18/07 11:11 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

sorry if you already said this
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    #7653923 - 11/19/07 09:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You know, i said SA earlier in this thread, but i really can't be too sure of that.  I hope they are sa and not f or b.  I have got some agar plates that i am doing to try to isolate a single strain.  The spores for that were taken from the largest two mushrooms of the casing picture in the first page of this thread.  I had a few bact. contams with that the first time but i was able to use a few of those dishes without further contams.  Anyway, once i get that one done perfectly i will fruit it out in one of those large white tubs.  (btw, i also have 3 of those large tubs going right now.  So in a few weeks we should be rollin in our year's supply of mushies.  :laugh:


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7658910 - 11/20/07 12:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

OK, i could use some help here i guess.  I have this tub ready to case now.  Unfortunately, i  am on a tight schedule as I have to catch a flight tonight.  i wont be back until sunday.  so upon seeing the tub in the pics below i have decided to go ahead and case it now rather than wait.  good thing i spent alll weekend preparing the casing layer.  :laugh:  anyway.  I haven't used a cool mist or anything else on this tub, it's just been sitting there.  there is a lot of condensation on the very top of the mycelium and im not sure if i should pat it all down with a papertowel to absorb the moisture or just case it with it on there with the thought that the water would be absorbed by the casing layer.  Any help would be great.  I only have a few hours before i have to catch the flight so i would REALLY appreciate a response. 

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^You can really see the condensation on this last one.  :frown:

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I also (obviously) cut the holes too low - or made the spawn too thick.  Anyone think i should try and modify these sections before i put the casing layer on this mofo?  Im thinking i will need to do something about it.  I do like the progress thus far overall.  Woot!  Happy thanksgiving everyone!!!!!!!!!


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    #7659417 - 11/20/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanks!  9 days colonization time.  Yeah, that's quick!  lol.  All the better i suppose.  i just put the casing layer on and it looks good.  I will see how it looks on sunday.  hope they will be alright.  when i get  back i would think it would be time to start fruiting them.  :laugh:


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    #7660353 - 11/20/07 07:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you have trouble getting rid of them?

i wouldn't...i'd buy a bunch of tubs for and fill my garage or room with
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i just noticed that pvc pipe in there. are u using an ultrasonic for humidity? maybe thats why it colonized so fast


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    #7683070 - 11/26/07 07:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't hooked anything up to the pvc hole yet. I was going to use it when fruiting to give it some good fresh air from time to time. I just got back from a trip and it was a cold 68 degrees in there so there was very little growth so far. This week should be different. im going to keep it up to 80 degrees or so in there. This should help. I have 10 cakes that i will dunk and roll after i am done colonizing this tub and trays. I estimate a week to go into fruiting mode.


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what ratio spawn:substrate?




Not sure if I had mentioned before what it was. I can't even recall any more so i hope i did. lol. I do know that it was two 5 gallon paint strainers full of shit. i put the weight of those bags up here i believe. as for the rye i think i used 9 quart jars. give or take two. obviously i wasn't too concerned with this. it was probably a really low ratio like 3:1 i say this because it colonized so fast.


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    #7683456 - 11/26/07 08:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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    #7683966 - 11/26/07 11:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Firstly, good work so far - nice efforts...may you enjoy the fruits of your labor!

Secondly, a suggestion for fruiting and using a few jars [even if only experimental]:

1) Fill 1 whole monotub with spawn and coir/coffe mix.
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You may want to seal the edges of the lid with something to prevent humidity escaping...or just put an even layer of silicone around the edge of the lid-tub and you should be fine.

Anyway, now see how long it fruits! I reckon it'd produce some monsters with that giant myc network, and last for quite a while before the nutrients were used up.

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    #7692125 - 11/28/07 07:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

^Not a bad idea. That would be fun. You can't really tell how deep it is from these pictures above. Here's one i just took showing the depth.





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    #7692314 - 11/28/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

WOW!!!! Dude I say do the kiddie pool before the jars go bad.


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    #7692332 - 11/28/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

How would he humidify a kiddie pool when fruiting?

It would be cool to see but a pain in the ass to make it successful.

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    #7692538 - 11/28/07 08:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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    #7692627 - 11/28/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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you have trouble getting rid of them?

i wouldn't...i'd buy a bunch of tubs for and fill my garage or room with
stacked monotubs :lol:
that would be one insane yield eh?
and you can even start an outdoor patch..




I like 18 gallon sterilite containers because you can stack them. I can fit like at least 12 in my little closet if I really wanted.  I put the window on the side, I don't know why everyone puts it on the top.

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    #7692739 - 11/28/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think coir coffee substrate is 80 coir to 20 coffee.. when I did coir coffee I hydrated the coir dried it then added dried grounds then got it to field capacity the correct moisture content .
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It's been a bit since i updated this.  The casing is now in fruiting mode and has been for a few days.  Geez, how bad is this.  i can't even remember when i turned the temp down and the lights on.  My instincts tell me Monday, but the more i think about it i think it could have been wednesday.  It doesn't matter.  The night before i started fruiting I dunked ten 1 pint PF cakes that i had made.  One of which is rye (pictures on first page).  Here's those:



Since i had ten i just bought a 2.5 gallon water container (distilled) and used that to do the dunk.  It worked out well.  THey actually froze a little bit too.  I don't expect that to harm anything.  lol.  Call me crazy, but i like doing cakes.  They aren't as messy and time consuming as bulk, although i have learned a lot from this experience with the poo. 

So here we are waiting patiently for the first pins to arise.  I just don't want to be disappointed.  But if i am oh well.  I've got more time and a few more jars left too.  :laugh:  thanks for looking.


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    #7730218 - 12/07/07 07:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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    #7730685 - 12/07/07 08:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, my experience with this monotub has been all positive at this point. I just like the fact that the cakes are relatively clean compared to the pookitchen massacre. Here's the tub i got going now. I think we are about to see a pin explosion! *crosses fingers and prays to the mushroom Gods*



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71 Qt. jars? Wow thats amazing atleast for me. Congrats.


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yes i still find this amazing lol wow what could i do with 71 quart jars???? :tongue:


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    #7731716 - 12/08/07 02:01 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This is exactly the level I am going to take my jars to now. I have a pressure cooker, although it only fits 3 pints at a time, I will need double the jars to equel yours.

I haven't exactly figured it all out as far as what strains and how many of each. There are so many different ways I could go.

I just know that now I have a private room for at least 2 months which means I have much more space where I am keeping all my stuff. I am looking for a good incubation system so I can keep the jars at 83 all the time.

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    #7732318 - 12/08/07 09:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This thread has taught me the value of bulk substrate.  I think i only used 8-10 quart jars to spawn with in that tub.  Most of the sub was hpoo.  So i think from now on i will just be doing poo grows with a few quarts of Good myc.  I have been working on isolating a single strain from a SA print that i made from the largest fruit i have had thus far.  Matter of fact i think that's what i will work on this weekend.  i need to do more transfers.  But anyway, 71 jars is way too many and i feel kinda foolish now for doing so many.  lol.  oh well.  there are still a LOT of jars that can be used - so i will.  :laugh:


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    #7738644 - 12/09/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)



What's happening here is interesting. There seems to be a large pin right near the center of the tub. I hope that i start to see the pins fan outward in the next day or so. Here are a few more pics of the same ole tub.





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    #7742312 - 12/10/07 07:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)






^You see that, right?


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7742342 - 12/10/07 07:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: Nibin]
    #7742751 - 12/10/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

looks like a bruise kind of, although it could be mold...closer picture please?


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: ewikk055]
    #7743249 - 12/10/07 11:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

LOL, it looks fine. I meant that there was a portrait of a mans head there. The pattern of myc made it. But now that i am looking at it after leaving for a while i can't even see it. lol. so nevermind i guess. i thought it was really cool at the time. lol. Anyway up until the pins came i had been pumping in humidifier air and now that the pins are coming along great i am using my vicks for air exchange. God this really looks like it has the potential to have a phenomenal pin set i just hope i dont fuck it up this week. Here's another fun one im working on....

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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7743775 - 12/11/07 03:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Holy crap. This looks awesome man. How long do you think the hpoo stunk up your house? And what other way do you think I could pull off some hpoo pasteurizing than within my house?
You used wbs? Did you use an LC, or did you just use spores?
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    #7744147 - 12/11/07 08:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

what size bin is that in? an dhow many jars did you mix with how much spawn???


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: katfish]
    #7750668 - 12/12/07 06:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not sure what size it is. probably bigger than 35 gallon. I also mentioned the spawn ratio earlier. Think it was 8 or 10 quart jars to 2 five gallon straining bags of pasteurized poo. I wasn't too technical with it. BUT CHECK THIS SHIT OUT!!!!



I put in a new light the other day so now they are getting more light than usual. This seems to be helping. The original "poo test" i did in this thread had stalled out up till today. I noticed several pins on it and a few on one of my cakes too.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
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    #7750771 - 12/12/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This is a great log!
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    #7751306 - 12/12/07 08:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

:mushroom2::mushroom2::thumbup::mushroom2::mushroom2:


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: ewikk055]
    #7758536 - 12/14/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

THanks for the kind words fellas!  I almost shit my pants this morning when checking the tub.  Here's what i saw:





I am going to Vegas like right now so i guess i will harvest when i get back.  WOOOO HOOOOO!!!  Finally scored those tool tickets to the last show of the year (and possibly tour).  Got VIP BOX seat in the front row.  :laugh:  Life is gooood......until i come back and see spores everywhere!  lol

Here are the cakes and the Hpoo test that i did (the one in the small tray earlier this thread). 





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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7758846 - 12/14/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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    #7758863 - 12/14/07 03:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

amazing amazing. as for the face, i see it, he is staring right at me. after a second look, hes looking at the person to the left of me.


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    #7758974 - 12/14/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Wow Is all I can even say. Wow.

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What kind of setup is this? Are you using a martha?


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    #7759057 - 12/14/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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    #7762808 - 12/15/07 06:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It's harvest time. I ran out of AA batteries so pics to come. There are several mushies that are rubbing against the tub lid. They are huge. i just hope they are really dense too. I will update in the next few days. Thanks again for the comments! The tool show was amazing as usual. I am using a martha setup for the cakes and the hpoo tray, yes. I will also get all the pictures i put in here together in order along with a write up and put it in the journal.


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    #7762861 - 12/15/07 06:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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    #7762863 - 12/15/07 06:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I can't wait to see this harvest.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: ewikk055]
    #7762949 - 12/15/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Wait no longer then.  :laugh:  well.  maybe a little bit before they are all picked and dried.  Im going to do some spore prints as well.  I was even thinking of cloning one of those bigger ones.  i've got some agar media made up.  These logistics are going to have to be written down this time.  lol.  Here's a few pics before i start picking them.  One note that i want to make regarding this flush is that the mushies in the center of the tub have grown larger and faster than the surrounding areas.  I would make an educated guess that this is a result of the FAE from the coolmist.







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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7763013 - 12/15/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

so how long do you have that coolmist running for in 1 given day?

and it just blows right on top of your casing layer? do you have any problems with excess condensation?


i dont really remember reading anything in this thread about you adding any additives to your bulk. did you? ex. coffee,gypsum,verm?

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    #7763047 - 12/15/07 07:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

damn just think if you did all your grain at once, in 6 tubs. youd be picking one hell of a first flush right about now. im now inspired to innoc 70 jars.


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    #7763099 - 12/15/07 08:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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do you have the first flush's weight?


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    #7763119 - 12/15/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i dont think he has begun to pick them yet.


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    #7763179 - 12/15/07 08:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'd think he would have picked the ones that are starting to put spores all over the place if he wants to get good prints.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: ewikk055]
    #7763523 - 12/15/07 09:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, they are big.  There are some that are SUPER dense, like almost 100% solid w/ no center.  here's one like that.  I JUST realized that i have no aluminum foil or wax paper so i will have to do the prints tomorrow.  So I have a few pictures of PART of the harvest.  The largest mushies are still in the tub.  This is like way more than i had anticipated on having.  Good thing i got friends that like to trip too.  :laugh:  Anyway, on with the mycoporn:








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    #7763565 - 12/15/07 09:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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so how long do you have that coolmist running for in 1 given day?

and it just blows right on top of your casing layer? do you have any problems with excess condensation?


i dont really remember reading anything in this thread about you adding any additives to your bulk. did you? ex. coffee,gypsum,verm?

by the way very nice grow brother.. keep up the good work




Thanks! If i mixed anything with the hpoo it would have either been gypsum or calcium carbonate. I will have to reread this thread. I hope i mentioned that earlier.

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do you have the first flush's weight?




Over 1 ounce. lmao. I don't have a scale big enough to measure them while wet. I weighed one medium sized one and it was 28 grams. I loaded them up in my 5 tray dehydrator and then still filled up my oven with them. I will keep a fan on them for the next few days. I also have 10 lbs of damprid so i will use that later on i guess. All in all a healthy harvest. I was thinking about the second flush too. I will try to follow monstermith's tek regarding the dunking of the substrate and beginning the second flush. I will have to do some patching as it looks like a battle field now. lol.

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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7763581 - 12/15/07 09:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Damn thats a hell of a lot of mycpiss in those two jars next to your harvest.


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    #7763687 - 12/15/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

lmao, naw. that is food coloring for another experiment i have going. the regular looking ones have pure peppermint extract mixed in to the water i used. I have a thread on that too:

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    #7763732 - 12/15/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I was about to say man.


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    #7763743 - 12/15/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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    #7763971 - 12/15/07 10:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

hey, i just wanted to re-ask that first question in my last post about how long you keep that coolmist on in a day and if you ever had any problems with it blowing directly on the casing?


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    #7764037 - 12/15/07 11:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Oh, sorry i missed that one. I only ran it a few times a day and only for about a minute each time. I haven't encountered any problems thus far. It would be interesting to make a pvc misting system that went around the perimeter on the inside, thereby equally distributing the fresh air. Just by looking at it though, i would guess that this was the cause for the center of the tub to grow faster and larger than the rest. If anyone could comment on that i would be interested to hear about other experiences like this.


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    #7765415 - 12/16/07 12:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

OK, so right now i have 3 dinner plates, 1 cookie sheet, one pizza tray and a 5 tray dehydrator full of mushies. I will add the dry weight in the next few days. The heaviest mushroom that i weighed was approx. 75 grams. I hope you all enjoyed the post! I am also taking 6 prints of the biggest mushies i had. I'd like to keep a few of them. So the next person to post gets a free print! just post and send me the addy in a pm.

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    #7765456 - 12/16/07 12:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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    #7765636 - 12/16/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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    #7765806 - 12/16/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Instead of a spore print, could I just have some of your own personal human DNA? I want to clone you and put you to work in my basement.


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    #7765993 - 12/16/07 03:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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    #7768077 - 12/17/07 12:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #7771007 - 12/17/07 07:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks again for the comments.  :laugh:  I have some slight bad news though.  Yeseterday I spent a good portion of my time trying to dunk this huge slab of myc.  Long story short it was a pain in the ass and im not too sure it's worth that effort.  This is not due to the technique i used though.  It's partly because this tub is really long.  But mostly because, in my infinite stupidity, i GORILLA taped the black trashbag lining in the tub in the bottom of the tub.  As i was trying to cut it out i broke the slab into two pieces.  Anyway, i let it drain after i soaked it and put it back into the tub with a new lining after a thorough cleaning.  I also added a casing layer, just enough of it to completely cover the top.  Here's a picture of it now (sorry no dunking pics were taken):



Not sure what i should do now.  I am going on vaca later this week and wont be back until the 30th.  I'm just not too sure what to do with it now.  lol


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7784918 - 12/21/07 09:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Final Weight of the first flush is approx. 6 OZ. dry and dirtless.  :laugh:



And thus concludes this thread.  Thanks for watching.  Merry Xmas everyone!  Be safe out there.


See you on the other side.....

edit:

if i get anything from subsequent flushes i will post that i suppose. 


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7784959 - 12/21/07 09:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It's good to be you, seems like you own some type of restaurant.


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Re: 71 Quart Jars Colonized. Now what? [Re: Chaos Creations]
    #7785405 - 12/21/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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go to your nearest college and sell it off at 150 a zip




Don't ever even hint at dealing here.  It's not allowed. :mad:
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