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first time to fruiting stage, things not going smoothly
    #7516288 - 10/14/07 03:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i got my jars colonized, built my chamber and forgot to wait for the jars to pin. so i popped em out and into the chamber with them. i waited many days not realizing my mistake, and got a cobweb infection which h20 and h202 helped fix. so i changed temp and lighting schedual to accomodate pinning. after 3 or so days i get 3 mushies on one cake. then a day later 1 on another and now i have a total of 18, 4 full sized-ish and 14 very mini ones.

my question is if i should only let these cakes fruit once and then bust em up into casings in order to maximize production? or is that a bad idea and i will end up killing all my mycelium? just need to know if casing these poorly raised mushrooms is a good idea or no.


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Re: first time to fruiting stage, things not going smoothly [Re: CU8EN5IS]
    #7516338 - 10/14/07 03:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

don't break them up and case. but do be sure to roll in dunk inbetween flushes, and roll in verm after the first dunk (if they haven't been rolled already)


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Re: first time to fruiting stage, things not going smoothly [Re: Optx]
    #7516390 - 10/14/07 04:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I would just leave them as is and dunk n roll between flushs, crumbling a cake will only delay things as the myc has to recover from the damage.

Casing pf cakes may produce a bigger flush, but this will obviously have an impact on further flushes as it has used up more energy int he flush.

Generaly cakes will produce many smaller flushes.

Casing will produce a bigger flush but less flushes.

I read a tek that cased 6 cakes in a container by just placing the cakes in the container (no crumbling) and covering with some casing soil (might be mgmc) i have never got round to trying this and havnt heard anyone else try it. It may give good results.

Personaly im quite happy with the results from my cakes, my first pf cake to flush gave 18 grams wet and tripped heavy from that. Its now on its second flush which looks like its gonna produce jsut a little under that.

My 3 other cakes are on there first flush and looking to produce about double the other cake - 1 in particular has some really phat ones growing.

If u had a problem with cobweb, then u might not be getting enough FAE. Cobweb thrives in still stale air. I fan my terrarium lots, and i mean lots and have never seen cobweb.


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Re: first time to fruiting stage, things not going smoothly [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7516412 - 10/14/07 04:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Part of the rationale behind the advice to not convert them to casings is because the mycelium does not handle switching back into vegetative mode after it's been induced into it's fruiting stage.


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Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.


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