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BCS out!
    #7516132 - 10/14/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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RANK TEAM BCS AVERAGE

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Ohio State .942

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South Florida .920

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Boston College .891

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LSU .840

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Oklahoma .762

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South Carolina .743

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Kentucky .683

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Arizona State .683

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West Virginia .662

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Oregon .637

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Virginia Tech .630

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California .600

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Kansas .517

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USC .472

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Florida .435

South Florida bitches.
OSU has Happy Valley and The Big House comin' up, don't reckon they clear the table.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #7516149 - 10/14/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i can't stop laughing at Cal


hahahahahhahaha man that was a hilarious way to blow a potential #1 ranking.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #7516188 - 10/14/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

He could have just chucked it out the back of the end zone, too.

They might have almost had a chance to spike it, but they tried to bring out the kick team.
There was absolutely no chance whatsoever of kicking it, though.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #7516220 - 10/14/07 03:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

gawd i was soooo happy to see them lose


Listening to a bunch of stupid engineering nerds go off about how great cal is would just hemmorhage my brain.

Watching them all stunned in silence in the stands....it made me giddy.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #7516247 - 10/14/07 03:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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OSU has Happy Valley and The Big House comin' up, don't reckon they clear the table.




You've got to be kidding me there is no way the #1 defense in the country is gonna fall against the pitty kittys or especially michigan. There is no way the buckeyes are going down to the 1-AA runner ups.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: disturbed]
    #7516292 - 10/14/07 03:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Both are solid teams and the Mid West as a whole is a big joke.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #7516469 - 10/14/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

South Florida ought to be #1

OSU, LOL


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Re: BCS out! [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #7516608 - 10/14/07 04:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I wish OSU fans (and the students here) would stop talking like we're fucking in already.
OSU has beaten PSU TWICE in Happy Valley EVER!
That place is fucking near impossible to play in. And any Ohio State fan understand it doesn't matter how good either OSU or Michigan is any given year, anyone can win.
Remember last year, when everyone talked about us as if we were already national champions? Yeah? Well let's be fucking humble for once.

And HOLY SHIT I'm tired of all the shit OSU catches, seriously, what the fuck? We beat every team we've played handily so far, if you cane PROVE to me that OSU sucks, then I'll believe it, but no one really has shit to say. I love how everyone was all over Boise State last year, talking about how amazing they were (I'm talking about before the bowl) and they should have a shot since they were undefeated. Who the FUCK did they beat? No one! So why does everyone have the complete opposite feeling about Ohio State this year? It doesn't make sense. Just as people say I'm blinded because I go to OSU, you fools are blinded because you seemingly hate OSU.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: jewunit]
    #7516612 - 10/14/07 04:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

/end angry rant because I've been arguing with about 10 people all day about college football.
God fucking polls make me so mad, this is why NCAA basketball blows football out of the water.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: jewunit]
    #7516635 - 10/14/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i'll agree with you on that one, for sure.


The entire BCS is just such a fucked up situation it's not even funny. The only reason they keep it is because of the NCAA revenue that comes in with putting the name of a tortilla chips brand with the championship game.


I mean, even in the NFL, it would be like not even having a playoffs, and just having the #1 seeds in both conferences playing each other.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #7516644 - 10/14/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It seriously would not be difficult at all to have a playoff system and generate a ridiculous amount of revenue off of it. If there isn't a playoff system in my lifetime, no fuck that, before I'm 35, I'm going to be extremely disappointed with college football.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: jewunit]
    #7516671 - 10/14/07 05:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

that's a big reason i am already starting to lose interest in college football.

You never have ever actually seen the best team in the country win the national championship during the BCS era, just the team with the greatest statistical appeal.


And that one year where there was that huge confusion of a "split championship" between USC and LSU....that was just special.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #7516701 - 10/14/07 05:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I don't know about that. What about when Texas beat USC? I think Texas was the best team in the country that year. Granted, the best team doesn't always (or rarely) wins, but the same can be said for basketball.
I'm a huge SU fan, and I'll be the first to admit that SU wasn't the best team in 2003 when they won in basketball. If UConn had won their region and played us in the final four instead of Texas they would have crushed us, just as they did the other two times that season. The thing about basketball is that it just makes it more definite than football. SU went through 6 games, and you can't take that away from them. You can say SU wasn't the best (as I just did), but it's MUCH harder, and even if it is the case it's something special to win 6 fucking games to a championship if you aren't the best. Winning one game when you aren't the best isn't shit, that happens week in and week out, ESPECIALLY this year in football.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: jewunit]
    #7516734 - 10/14/07 05:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ummmmmm, not for nothing but that SU team was a monster by the end of the year, by which time 'Melo had figured the league out. Don't forget, he was a freshman. MacNamara didn't suck either, one of the clutchest white boys I ever saw put on a pair of cons. There were some other pretty good players too but I forget them now


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Re: BCS out! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7516763 - 10/14/07 05:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hakim Warrick, Kueth Duany, and Craig Forth were the other starters. Forth kinda sucked. Jeremy McNeil was the other center, and he was the reason the press (the press that kept them in the tournament when they were down against Okie State) worked so well because he could swat the shit out of balls.
Don't get me wrong, and I shouldn't have to defend myself here, SU was a monster by then Anthony showed why he was the best freshman in the league, regardless of what people thought, and Warrick's block will forever be one of my most cherished memories, I'm just saying that UConn would have destroyed SU (and the fact that no one in the Big 12 fucking knew how to play against the zone sure as hell helped.) Maybe just losing to UConn doesn't mean SU wasn't the best, I suppose I could have used the 1985 Villanova team as a better example for my point.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: jewunit]
    #7516793 - 10/14/07 05:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

And that 'Nova team was way better than people thought too. Didn't they send three starters to the pros?


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Re: BCS out! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7516800 - 10/14/07 05:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know, I'm only 19, I just know in '85 they won as an 8 seed.
I think an early 80s UCLA team did something similar as well.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: jewunit]
    #7516806 - 10/14/07 05:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I was going to make a hypothetical argument, but those are pretty weak.
I was going to say something along the lines of "Imagine if in '96 Kentucky lost to SU in the finals instead of the other way around. To say that Kentucky team wasn't the best in the country, if not the best ever, would be foolish." But then again, they won, because they were the best in the country.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: jewunit]
    #7516830 - 10/14/07 05:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, I don't know about that. What about when Texas beat USC? I think Texas was the best team in the country that year. Granted, the best team doesn't always (or rarely) wins, but the same can be said for basketball.
I'm a huge SU fan, and I'll be the first to admit that SU wasn't the best team in 2003 when they won in basketball. If UConn had won their region and played us in the final four instead of Texas they would have crushed us, just as they did the other two times that season. The thing about basketball is that it just makes it more definite than football. SU went through 6 games, and you can't take that away from them. You can say SU wasn't the best (as I just did), but it's MUCH harder, and even if it is the case it's something special to win 6 fucking games to a championship if you aren't the best. Winning one game when you aren't the best isn't shit, that happens week in and week out, ESPECIALLY this year in football.





It's impossible to really tell with football.  Texas was spectacular, but you'll never really know who the best team was every year unless they BEAT the best. 

Of course there are many times when the BCS system isolates what APPEARS to be the best team of the year.  But it's all really just based on statistics.  It's not like they rank teams randomly...

Well, SOME randomness :wink:



But let me ask you this....how many times in the NFL does the #1 seed win the Super Bowl?  Probably only once every 4 years.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #7517167 - 10/14/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

HAhahahaaHAHA, oh man, South Florida is #2!!!!!!!!

at least it's a team from florida, but wow.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #7517211 - 10/14/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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And that one year where there was that huge confusion of a "split championship" between USC and LSU....that was just special.




Look I'll be the first to admit the BCS sucks, that dual championship was such total bullshit. But thats what we have so I have to deal with it, is it going to make me lose interest in college football? Definitely not.

I know anything can happen any saturday as this has been the craziest colllege football season I have ever personally watched, but I just don't see Ohio State losing to michigan or penn state. For starters Morelli is just plain shitty this year and and the Penn State offensive line has already let him be sacked 14 times, the OSU defense is going to have a field day with them in Happy Valley or not. And I mean seriously losing to Illinois, get serious...

I do think michigan may be a tough game but I don't see losing this one either... Not only has Lloyd Carr historically not been able to beat Ohio State but a loss to App State AND oregon in the big house i don't see this being a problem. I'm guessing Lloyd Carr will be looking for employment elsewhere next season.

Ohio State hasn't had a close game all year they have solidly beat every team they've played (I'll admit they haven't had any really serious challenges yet). I'm not someone that thinks OSU will win out every time no matter what I knew the florida game last year was going to be a tough one, and we just flat out got worked. But like i said I just don't see us losing, and I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is if anyone wants to make a bet haha (could even bet logo's in the sig or something a michigan logo in my sig would not make me a happy camper if OSU lost ).


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Re: BCS out! [Re: disturbed]
    #7517411 - 10/14/07 08:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Nothing wrong with losing to Oregon.
Yes, we haven't had a close game, but we also haven't played anyone good.
I would just be a little more humble, that's all. I'm tired of walking around campus and having everyone think we're already in.


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Re: BCS out! [Re: jewunit]
    #7517930 - 10/14/07 10:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Nothing wrong with losing to Oregon.
Yes, we haven't had a close game, but we also haven't played anyone good.
I would just be a little more humble, that's all. I'm tired of walking around campus and having everyone think we're already in.




Yea I fell ya man I'm an alumni so I know how it goes... pretty much everyone I talked to during the championship last year thought florida was gonna be a pushover I wasn't that disallusioned haha. We'll see what happens though god knows this year has been crazy enough


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Re: BCS out! [Re: jewunit]
    #7520856 - 10/15/07 08:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm tired of walking around campus and having everyone think we're already in.





Oh, that'll just make it even sweeter when the time comes! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


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Re: BCS out! [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #7541292 - 10/21/07 12:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

wisconsin really blew it, i was hoping to lose one maybe two games the whole year, oh well i guess there is still hope


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