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Psilocybe azurescens indoor growing
#7515440 - 10/14/07 11:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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is that possible in a hot climate like Florida ?
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Re: Psilocybe azurescens indoor growing [Re: Raoul Duke]
#7515515 - 10/14/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i wouldnt bother
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Re: Psilocybe azurescens indoor growing [Re: tastyshroom]
#7515517 - 10/14/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Psilocybe azurescens indoor growing [Re: Brainiac]
#7515594 - 10/14/07 12:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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There was a post I saw where a guy in germany started some woodchips outside then brought them in and finished them. His yield sucked though, and his Azurescens were sterile.
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Re: Psilocybe azurescens indoor growing [Re: Cheesekiller]
#7528897 - 10/17/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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wood-loving mushrooms are very hard to cultivate indoors. however starting an outdoor patch is a good idea if your climate permits it. florida is a no go for azures. ever think of starting some outdoor copelandia cyanescen patches? all you need is some compost and zoo-doo or composted horse manure. you could even grow those indoors. they rank up there with azure as far as potency goes.
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Re: Psilocybe azurescens indoor growing [Re: Raoul Duke]
#7528947 - 10/17/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Psilocybe azurescens indoor growing [Re: Ekstaza]
#7529531 - 10/17/07 10:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm starting to work with azures. I live in zone 6/7, so it's perfect for me outside. but my work will mainly be 100% inside.
I think more of us should try. experiment. There's a way to do it reliably, just nobody has come up with it yet. It'll take some tricks nobody has thought of yet, but I bet it'll be totally possible. so what the hell, I'm off to experiment. I hope others do too.
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Re: Psilocybe azurescens indoor growing [Re: monstermitch]
#7529553 - 10/17/07 10:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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you would need something like a wine fridge wit a clear door for light. the temp need to be in the mid 60's for fruiting and mos of the time it is not practical to do so without the proper funding.
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Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: thenewguy05]
#7888363 - 01/16/08 02:03 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Mitch, have you had any luck with your Ps. Azures?
Sorry to necro this thread, but I just got a Ps. Cyan print and am getting ready to do some isolation on it in preperation for an indoor grow attempt. There don't seem to be enough of these threads floating around, would be nice to get a tek going.
I'm looking to;
Isolate on agar inoculate to grain Incubate at 68f Spawn to wood chips Fruit at 55f
I have an small wine cooler that I'm going to me modifying... basically replacing the light already in it with something more daylight-ish.
I'll be posting something in the grow log forum once I get started...
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: MrAbstraction]
#7888725 - 01/16/08 03:40 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Got mine cruising in the jars as we speak. Woo Hooo!!!! Pacific NW!
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: atomicblue]
#7888854 - 01/16/08 04:06 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Growing a wood loving shroom in my house would be totally possible. We keep the house around 55, all I'd have to do is put a tiny heater in a closet to barely bring the temp up. Ha za for being cheap lol
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: atomicblue]
#7888916 - 01/16/08 04:18 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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atomicblue said: Got mine cruising in the jars as we speak. Woo Hooo!!!! Pacific NW!
Cool! What sub are you using in your jars? How long have they been going, and how far along are they?
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: MrAbstraction]
#7889532 - 01/16/08 06:25 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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BRF and Verm Pftek. Started 9 jars on Dec.30th. Temp in the 75-80 range. Took about ten days to see growth. Started another ten jars Jan.9th lowered temp to 65-68. Seems to be growing faster than the first batch! 40-70 is supposed to be the happy range for the mycelium to grow aggressively. First jars are about half way colonized. Lost one to some kind of mold in the second group. The slowing of growth in the first group combined with the contamination of the one jar in the second group made me lower the temp and they seem to be moving right along.:)
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. *DELETED* [Re: atomicblue]
#9471697 - 12/21/08 08:32 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: florida lurker]
#9472282 - 12/21/08 11:35 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Growing them is very easy.It's the fruiting of them that's very hard...
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: Brainiac]
#9472298 - 12/21/08 11:38 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would not suggest attempting to fruit azures indoors. In addition to the cold temperatures, they require organisms in the soil to fruit, and once you bring unpasteurized topsoil indoors, green molds are going to be the culprit long before you can get the azures to fruit. I've succeeded with them outdoors, but even in my refrigerated mini-greenhouse, every indoor attempt has failed.  RR
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9472502 - 12/21/08 12:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah, I was reading some things saying it is really hard to cultivate indoors because it needs organisms in the soil or whatnot.. i figured i'd give it a shot anyways since i have this nice lil refrigerator...

this guy didn't seem to have that much trouble fruiting Azures in a fridge.....
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: florida lurker]
#9472565 - 12/21/08 12:35 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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florida lurker said: yeah, I was reading some things saying it is really hard to cultivate indoors because it needs organisms in the soil or whatnot.. i figured i'd give it a shot anyways since i have this nice lil refrigerator...

this guy didn't seem to have that much trouble fruiting Azures in a fridge.....
That guy was/is a lair...It was a P cube with a nipple
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: florida lurker]
#9472574 - 12/21/08 12:37 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow that's what Azures look like? I'd honestly never seen them - do they all have the white stripe around the cap and the bump in the middle? They look like tits almost, hahah. 
I hear they're potent as hell, most potent shroom there is. I wonder what the trip is like. Back in the day, my friend was really into shrooms, and he'd pick up from the older kid - and 1 time the kid was like, "I'm trying to get these shrooms - and you won't be the same person after tripping on them", lol. I wonder if he was talking about a different species like Azures or Cyans.
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: Brainiac]
#9472586 - 12/21/08 12:39 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Brainiac said: That guy was/is a lair...It was a P cube with a nipple
I dunno man, I just hit google, and it looks like them. I've never seen pics of cubes w/ that white stripe and nipple. The guy may be a liar - but the last pic I posted from google IS one of the pics from his grow, linked from mycotopia. 



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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: J3illy]
#9472698 - 12/21/08 01:06 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would belive that pic. But this mushroom is a primary decomposer..Where in that pic its fruiting off an already decompose stuff...
~Azurescens is- White Oak Sawdust, Dehydrated Manure(wtf), Rye Berries, Straw, Oyster Shell, and Water
My friend, you need to do some reading...
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: Brainiac]
#9472763 - 12/21/08 01:22 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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ok brainiac
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: Brainiac]
#9472823 - 12/21/08 01:33 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Brainiac said: My friend, you need to do some reading...
What do you mean I need to do some reading? I searched google images for Azure pics - and they are the same mushrooms growing in that thread. Cubes do not have the white rim around the cap or the nipple on the top. Whether or not THAT guy grew those or how he grew them - those are Azures. And what that guy claims he used - you can definitely grow Azures with - wheat grain spawned to wood chips or sawdust of some kind. You can read all about right here:
http://www.shroomery.org/8673/Erics-Guide-To-Cultivating-Psilocybe-Azurescens-Cyanescens
Other info from other sites:
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The Psilocybe azurescens, cyanescens and baeocystis love woodchips. The colonized spawn will also be helpful in colonizing a part of the woodchips with mycelium.
It does not really matter what kind of woodchips you use. In general the mushrooms grow very well on almost all kinds of woodchips. We use the ones that you can buy in the pet shops to use as underground for your pet house.
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: J3illy]
#9472847 - 12/21/08 01:38 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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J3illy said:
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Brainiac said: My friend, you need to do some reading...
What do you mean I need to do some reading? I searched google images for Azure pics - and they are the same mushrooms growing in that thread. Cubes do not have the white rim around the cap or the nipple on the top. Whether or not THAT guy grew those or how he grew them - those are Azures. And what that guy claims he used - you can definitely grow Azures with - wheat grain spawned to wood chips or sawdust of some kind. You can read all about right here:
http://www.shroomery.org/8673/Erics-Guide-To-Cultivating-Psilocybe-Azurescens-Cyanescens
Did you miss the part that says
Many have tried it, but I didn´t hear of one person that succeeded using that guide.
Its right under the heading...
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: Brainiac]
#9472888 - 12/21/08 01:44 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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What does that matter? And yea, the link says "Many have tried it, but I didn´t hear of one person that succeeded using that guide", which is from '02 - and the guy's thread that claims he grew them is from '04.
Those are Azures in that thread. Searching google images for Azures, they look EXACTLY like that, and one of those very pics comes up.
Like I said, whether or not THAT guy grew them, or HOW they were grown - they are Azures. For your defense you're throwing up the required substrate - which the guy claims he used.
I dunno why you're getting so defensive and offended it seems.
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: J3illy]
#9472960 - 12/21/08 01:55 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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J3illy said: What does that matter? And yea, the link says "Many have tried it, but I didn´t hear of one person that succeeded using that guide", which is from '02 - and the guy's thread that claims he grew them is from '04.
Those are Azures in that thread. Searching google images for Azures, they look EXACTLY like that, and one of those very pics comes up.
Like I said, whether or not THAT guy grew them, or HOW they were grown - they are Azures. For your defense you're throwing up the required substrate - which the guy claims he used.
I dunno why you're getting so defensive and offended it seems.
In this hobby, look a likes kill... I hate to see someone waste there time and money...
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: Brainiac]
#9473073 - 12/21/08 02:16 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I hear what you're saying - maybe the guy grew them or found them outside, and wanted to look all awesome, so he transferred them to try and make it look like he grew them inside. It's tough to say - although what he claims he did seems like he emulated outdoor conditions, using unsterilized woodchips and an unsterilized casing layer from the woods of foliage, sticks, and needles. Being unsterilized, there was definitely microorganisms in the substrate, which RR said is required for them.
Who knows the real story behind it, but I'm convinced those are Azures in the thread. Not only are they an exact match to the google images - but I don't see how they could be cube lookalikes, when they all have the white rim and the nipple.
It's not something I'd ever try, but I don't think it's flat-out impossible to do.
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: J3illy]
#9473131 - 12/21/08 02:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's possible, but look at the shitty yields compared to the pain you have to go through. Why do it if you live in a climate zone that doesn't support Azures? I got a print of Azures, but I'll be spawning to woodchips to make an outdoor patch. I am not even going to bother with indoor. Cubes and Pans are for indoor, Cyans and Azures... hell no. If you got time and spores to waste, go for it. If you don't, leave it alone.
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: J3illy]
#9473359 - 12/21/08 03:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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J3illy said: I hear what you're saying - maybe the guy grew them or found them outside, and wanted to look all awesome, so he transferred them to try and make it look like he grew them inside. It's tough to say - although what he claims he did seems like he emulated outdoor conditions, using unsterilized woodchips and an unsterilized casing layer from the woods of foliage, sticks, and needles. Being unsterilized, there was definitely microorganisms in the substrate, which RR said is required for them.
Who knows the real story behind it, but I'm convinced those are Azures in the thread. Not only are they an exact match to the google images - but I don't see how they could be cube lookalikes, when they all have the white rim and the nipple.
It's not something I'd ever try, but I don't think it's flat-out impossible to do.
Photoshop, making fake shit real..
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: Brainiac]
#9473509 - 12/21/08 03:53 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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These in the tray on the left were grown indoors right up until time to stimulate pinning, and then moved outdoors. It's grains to sawdust/chips in a filter patch bag, which when fully colonized was used to inoculate more unsterilized chips mixed with garden soil in the kitty litter tray. After three months of colonization indoors, they were moved outside. For all the trouble it's worth, consider it a novelty grow. If you want a larger harvest, spawn the chips into an outdoor bed in the spring. RR
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: Brainiac]
#9474407 - 12/21/08 07:01 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: J3illy]
#9474605 - 12/21/08 07:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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i was about to post that exact same picture (the last one you posted jilly) as an example that cubes don't have the fibrous/filamentous veil that azures and cyans have, and none of these azures have a collar left from the thick veil like on cubes. i'm pretty sure that you are the liar, brainiac, hehe. Not only this, but how would you explain the progression of growth... 






apparently it IS possible... why are you so butt hurt over this brainy?
hahaha, i fucked up with the coding on the images, so if you click on them, they just go to a pic of my pressure cooker... but you can see them in the post...
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SuchSmartMonkeys said: i was about to post that exact same picture (the last one you posted jilly) as an example that cubes don't have the fibrous/filamentous veil that azures and cyans have, and none of these azures have a collar left from the thick veil like on cubes. i'm pretty sure that you are the liar, brainiac, hehe. Not only this, but how would you explain the progression of growth... 






apparently it IS possible... why are you so butt hurt over this brainy?
hahaha, i fucked up with the coding on the images, so if you click on them, they just go to a pic of my pressure cooker... but you can see them in the post...
Any Spore pics ? 
or they are Psilocybe subaeruginascens...Why is a warm loving grass is growing.When they, love the cold to fruit ?..
http://forums.mycotopia.net/exotic-magic-mushrooms/24964-psilocybe-subaeruginascens.html
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: Brainiac]
#9476960 - 12/22/08 08:00 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Casting Resurection on P. Cyan Thread. [Re: florida lurker]
#9476993 - 12/22/08 08:18 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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