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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7513976 - 10/13/07 10:51 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know.
I have ideas.
This is what makes me psyilly, for sure.
Next chapter.

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7513981 - 10/13/07 10:52 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

it just appeared to me that Orgone was implying there's no possibility for an afterlife.. maybe i misread.

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7513989 - 10/13/07 10:54 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

to quote him fairly, he said our memories and personalities don't remain after death. there was no conclusive statement about whether some kind of life or awareness continues.

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7513997 - 10/13/07 10:56 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

_{Moderator Edit: Restoring on-topic discussion by removing personalisms from thread. Everyone participating in this thread is advised to review the forum rules and guidelines, and to realize that we discuss the ideas that posters present, and not the identity and personal nature of the individuals posting. Personalisms, as well as responses to personalisms, are being removed - the guilty know who they are.}

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7513998 - 10/13/07 10:56 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

_{Moderator Edit: Restoring on-topic discussion by removing personalisms from thread. Everyone participating in this thread is advised to review the forum rules and guidelines, and to realize that we discuss the ideas that posters present, and not the identity and personal nature of the individuals posting. Personalisms, as well as responses to personalisms, are being removed - the guilty know who they are.}

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7514010 - 10/13/07 10:58 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

_{Moderator Edit: Restoring on-topic discussion by removing personalisms from thread. Everyone participating in this thread is advised to review the forum rules and guidelines, and to realize that we discuss the ideas that posters present, and not the identity and personal nature of the individuals posting. Personalisms, as well as responses to personalisms, are being removed - the guilty know who they are.}

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7514012 - 10/13/07 10:59 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

News flash: philosophy is not about one's beliefs.

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7514013 - 10/13/07 10:59 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

_{Moderator Edit: Restoring on-topic discussion by removing personalisms from thread. Everyone participating in this thread is advised to review the forum rules and guidelines, and to realize that we discuss the ideas that posters present, and not the identity and personal nature of the individuals posting. Personalisms, as well as responses to personalisms, are being removed - the guilty know who they are.}

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7514015 - 10/13/07 10:59 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Well you know, the earth was flat until it was proven to be round. Then suddenly, it was spherical in shape. Crazy how that works.

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7514021 - 10/13/07 11:02 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

nobody could prove such a thing so what is the point in looking for proof? the same goes with looking for proof that there is no afterlife. two sides to the same coin to me.

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7514033 - 10/13/07 11:06 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7514041 - 10/13/07 11:08 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Kinematics - the earth is physical so wtf are you talking about?

MushroomTrip - what is my belief?

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7514045 - 10/13/07 11:09 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Cool

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

[Re: onlynow]
#7514048 - 10/13/07 11:10 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I was not talking about your belief.
I was answering to your:

Quote:

does he believe there is no afterlife because there is no evidence?

His beliefs (as well as anybody else's) are irrelevant in a philosophical discussion.

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7514064 - 10/13/07 11:15 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup:

hey, teacher, leave those kids alone!

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7514067 - 10/13/07 11:15 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7514099 - 10/13/07 11:24 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Nothing is wrong with debate, except when the beliefs of another are ridiculed.

A total misunderstanding of the Laws of Thermodynamics = a belief system or just plain old ignorance?

Let's all celebrate a lack of education and ability to utilize readily available knowledge. :cheer:

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7514149 - 10/13/07 11:43 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Better consult the crystal skulls.
Still counting??
Beliefs are rad when they are real.
I woke up dead.
Don't know if anybody understands that.
This is the afterlife for some. :shrug:

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7514900 - 10/14/07 07:19 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
One Law of Thermodynamics states: "Energy is neither created nor destroyed."

All-too-often, ignorant fluffernauts toss this out as some sort of evidence for an afterlife even though it has been debunked endlessly by the most basic of physics.

Take an old CD and smash it into a zillion pieces or run a powerful magnet over your hard drive. What happens? INFORMATION (not matter or energy) is lost.

When any animal dies, its memories and personality are lost, but the energy and matter remains the same. There is no loss of energy that travels to another magical realm.

End of story.

When a law of thermodynamics talks of "energy", guess what? It's talking about thermodynamic energy. This has absolutely no bearing on "life energy", qi energy or anything else that people may mean when they use the word energy.

People who use irrelevant pieces of science to prove there is an afterlife are talking bollox.

It's like explaining the energy of a piece of music by considering the (physical) energy of the sound wave. Stupid.

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Re: Law of Conservation of Energy and The Afterlife

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#7514918 - 10/14/07 07:27 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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