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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7520201 - 10/15/07 04:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ridiculous yes, however very unsurprising to me.


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: TheCow]
    #7520259 - 10/15/07 05:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Frankly, I'm not real clear on the Jewish heaven or hell thing, I just know they think they're special in the eyes of dog.  Whatever specialness either group thinks it has, the particulars are irrelevant.  They are all douches.

Still, I find any outrage over Coulter saying what everybody knows to be ridiculous.  I have other reasons to believe she is an ass.




Like being a racist prick that thinks freedom os speech only applies to people that agree with her :wink:

I really don't find it THAT offending what she said. I mean.. everyone (even non christians) know that christians believe you have to accept Christ to get into heaven. BY LOGIC that even a retard can understand, that should tell you that you can't get into heaven if you don't accept Christ/. and if u don't believe in Christ, you can't accept him and therefore are not going to go to heaven.

There are just better ways of saying it than the way Coulter did.

Everyone knows thats the way Christianity works, it's just no one has the balls to say it.  It's almost commendable to come out and say things that no one else has the balls to.

Now it's NOT commendable to say the following things that's come out of her mouth:

* Calling he 9/11 widows "harpies". I think being DIRECTLY affected by 9/11 gives such at these ladies more weight to their opinion about foreign affairs related to 9/11 than most people who just watched in on TV like Coulter.

* Saying "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.". This blatantly condones murder.

* Calling John Edwards a faggot.

How are any of these examples of being a good Christian? Christians are supposed to leave it to God to be the final judge.

Anywho... I guess I'm just preaching to the choir here.

What would Jesus do?


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: BrAiN]
    #7520441 - 10/15/07 06:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Frankly, I'm not real clear on the Jewish heaven or hell thing, I just know they think they're special in the eyes of dog.  Whatever specialness either group thinks it has, the particulars are irrelevant.  They are all douches.

Still, I find any outrage over Coulter saying what everybody knows to be ridiculous.  I have other reasons to believe she is an ass.




Like being a racist prick that thinks freedom os speech only applies to people that agree with her :wink:




I am not aware of her being guilty of that.
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I really don't find it THAT offending what she said. I mean.. everyone (even non christians) know that christians believe you have to accept Christ to get into heaven. BY LOGIC that even a retard can understand, that should tell you that you can't get into heaven if you don't accept Christ/. and if u don't believe in Christ, you can't accept him and therefore are not going to go to heaven.

There are just better ways of saying it than the way Coulter did.

Everyone knows thats the way Christianity works, it's just no one has the balls to say it.  It's almost commendable to come out and say things that no one else has the balls to.

Now it's NOT commendable to say the following things that's come out of her mouth:

* Calling he 9/11 widows "harpies". I think being DIRECTLY affected by 9/11 gives such at these ladies more weight to their opinion about foreign affairs related to 9/11 than most people who just watched in on TV like Coulter.




Frankly, I agree with her assessment of that particular group.  They thought they were somehow entitled to make policy because of their losses.  They were no more nor less entitled than you or I and yet they kept donning this grief mantle of authority.  Thankfully, they are no longer heard from incessantly.
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* Saying "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.". This blatantly condones murder.




Given my druthers, I'd druther that the asshole removed a bunch of pompous slimeballs than the people he did.  But that's not exactly condoning either murder.
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* Calling John Edwards a faggot.




She didn't say that, although it's pretty much true.
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How are any of these examples of being a good Christian? Christians are supposed to leave it to God to be the final judge.

Anywho... I guess I'm just preaching to the choir here.

What would Jesus do?




Better yet, ask yourself "What would Zappa do?"  Let that be your guide.  And study that scripture carefully, because it isn't what most people think it is.  Like I said, I think she is an ass but not for the above oft cited reasons.  I think she is an ass because she believes in god and thinks that anybody who doesn't is a dick.  But only atheists have any right to complain about that because every single religion believes some form of the exact same thing.  Oh yeah, and as a final note let me just say this:
"MMMMM, babies, the other white meat."


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7520720 - 10/15/07 07:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

>What would Zappa do?

Fair enough :P


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7520725 - 10/15/07 07:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

>What would Zappa do?

Not drugs... that's for sure.

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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7522330 - 10/16/07 08:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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You are mistaken. It isn't what some Christians believe, it is 100% Christian doctrine that Jesus is the son of god and that salvation can only be achieved through accepting Christ as lord and saviour.




That's not true. The Unitarian church, the Quaker church, and a couple sects of the Franciscan church officially don't endorse the notion of an afterlife or Jesus as the son of God, and yet still consider themselves "Christian" in the sense that the follow the red letter teachings of Jesus in the New Testament. Not to mention all of the christians who do attend more dogmatic churches who don't believe what you describe, like My Grandmomma who is a lifelong Methodist but believes that anyone who is "good" is going to heaven whether or not they believe in Jesus.

You are trolling like a madman in this thread, btw.


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7522400 - 10/16/07 09:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

He's just going to say "Then they're not real Christians"


BTW Zappa.. what sect are you? Baptist? Catholic? Non-Denominational?


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: BrAiN]
    #7522411 - 10/16/07 09:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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He's just going to say "Then they're not real Christians"





Yeah, I know.


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7523865 - 10/16/07 03:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well, the personal attacks aside, I believe it is the defining characteristic of Christianity that all Christians believe Jesus was the son of god. You are going to have to do a good bit better than "My Grandma says" to convince me otherwise.

Me? I'm a fucking atheist. I think they are ALL stupid. Just to clarify my position, I said STUPID. As in dumb as a bag of hammers, hockey helmet wearing, drooling morons. I study them like a scientist would study planaria, with curiosity. Or poisonous jellyfish. I do not overly concern myself with the jellyfish thought processes, I just observe their behavior and try to avoid getting stung. And I don't troll, thank you.


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7523911 - 10/16/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Zappa's got a point there. In order to be Christian you have to believe in Christ

Although... If you can find out where in the New Testament is says that you're going to hell if you don't believe in Christ, then please show us. I DON'T doubt it exists.... but if Christianity turns out to be the REAL religion.. then you'd think someone as compassionate as Jesus could give a little credit to someone who leads a good life and just doesn't happen to believe in him. Purgatory is there for a reason.


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7523915 - 10/16/07 03:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Me? I'm a fucking atheist.




Atheist or Agnostic?


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: BrAiN]
    #7523989 - 10/16/07 04:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Atheist. I aint no pussy. Didn't the hockey helmet remark clue you in?

Heaven, hell, all that interpretive stuff, I don't know where each particular gang of nutlogs lands. But what Coulter said about Christianity is correct. It is also correct that Jews think they are better than everybody else. That I know is in the Torah because I found it during one of my many Bar Mitzvah boredom sessions. We have a lot of Jewish friends and they have a lot of kids and I have been to probably ten Bar Mitzvahs in the last few years. While all the tedious shit is going on I read the Torah. I call it gathering evidence. Just don't ask me to find it again. And the Muslims want to convert or kill, there's plenty of THAT in the Koran if you wish to fond it.


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7524066 - 10/16/07 04:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yea religion sucks... although I have to admit.. most non-denominational christians are somewhat down to earth.. at least the ones I've met.

I'm agnostic...


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: BrAiN]
    #7524445 - 10/16/07 05:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm agnostic...




Atta boy, you're almost there :heart:


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: Thor]
    #7524536 - 10/16/07 05:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I used to be atheist 10 years ago.. until I got into my acid phase.. i kept tripping and trying to figure out how the universe started and trying to figure out the cause of everything.... kinda figured it's impossible for there to be absolutely nothing... because then there would BE nothing.. and this is obviously not nothing because i'm tapping the floor and there's SOMETHING there stopping me... so whehther or not its an old dude with a white beard or just some kinda force ther's gotta be something and

ahhHH!! flashback!

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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7527065 - 10/17/07 09:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Why are YOU and the democrats soooooooooo  obsessed with republican commentators? THEY ARE JUST COMMENTATORS! They are not elected officials, they do not cast votes in the congress, they are private citizens and have a right to the freedom of speech. :thumbup:

Seems like Ann "offends" some group or individual every time she has a new book to sell.  :money:


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: BrAiN]
    #7527128 - 10/17/07 10:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Zappa's got a point there. In order to be Christian you have to believe in Christ




Sure, you have to believe he existed. But the debate as to whether he was a man or the son of God is an argument that is older than protestantism. As I pointed out, there are groups that call themselves christian that don't consider him supernatural in any sense.

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Although... If you can find out where in the New Testament is says that you're going to hell if you don't believe in Christ, then please show us. I DON'T doubt it exists




I think it is in Matthew, meaning Jesus supposedly said it himself, something to the tune of "The only way to God is through me, there is no other road to heaven" (I'm ad-libbing quite liberally, but I know it is there)


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7527377 - 10/17/07 11:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Sure, you have to believe he existed. But the debate as to whether he was a man or the son of God is an argument that is older than protestantism. As I pointed out, there are groups that call themselves christian that don't consider him supernatural in any sense.





That defies the whole meaning of Christianity. Why would you name your religion after your a single person if you just thought he was a gee golly swell guy?


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: BrAiN]
    #7527520 - 10/17/07 12:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Sure, you have to believe he existed. But the debate as to whether he was a man or the son of God is an argument that is older than protestantism. As I pointed out, there are groups that call themselves christian that don't consider him supernatural in any sense.





That defies the whole meaning of Christianity. Why would you name your religion after your a single person if you just thought he was a gee golly swell guy?




Don't ask me, ask them. Or ask the buddhists why they named their religon after a gee golly swell guy.

For the third time, I will point out that the history of christianity has been nothing but a battle over what exactly is, what you call "the whole meaning of christianity." That is why the catholic church has been reformed so many times, and why there are more protestant churches than you can shake a stick it. Yes Unitarians and Quakers do not believe that Christ was divine, and yes they still consider themselves christian. If you have a problem with that, take it up with them as I am not defending their views... All I'm doing is pointing out that not all christians worship Jesus as God, even though most of them do.


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7527534 - 10/17/07 12:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Christians should boycott Quaker Oats then :smile:

Heretic Breakfast products!!!!! Since when has blasphemy become a part of our daily vitamin intake!!! BOYCOTT QUAKER OATS!!!! Help crush their economy!!!


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