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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7516491 - 10/14/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lol @ a neocon saying "fuck em" about 9/11 widows... its disgusting to say that about women who's husbands were murdered. just because they didnt support the iraq war which had NOTHING to do with 9/11


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7516620 - 10/14/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think I told you why I was sick of that particular group. They seem to be under the mistaken impression that their marital status entitled them to some sort of authority on what should be done with the site or the foreign policy initiatives of the US. Much like Hillary.


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7516661 - 10/14/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yea honestly fuck them. Who the fuck cares what they had to say?


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7518434 - 10/15/07 05:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Unfortunately you've got the right to say whatever you want in this country.




Unfortunately? :what:




I'm referring to being allowed to spread racism and bigotry. The freedom of speech should come with responsibility.


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: TheCow]
    #7518436 - 10/15/07 05:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Yea honestly fuck them. Who the fuck cares what they had to say?




Funny how those like Ann Coulter who think this nation is so great because of our FREEDOM think that those who don't agree with her shouldn't have the freedom to voice their opinions.... the freedom only applies to those who support their side. Anyone else should be censored or labeled unpatiotic.


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: BrAiN]
    #7518443 - 10/15/07 05:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Funny how those like Ann Coulter who think this nation is so great because of our FREEDOM think that those who don't agree with her shouldn't have the freedom to voice their opinions...




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I'm referring to being allowed to spread racism and bigotry. The freedom of speech should come with responsibility.




Interesting conflict of opinion. I guess as long as the message doesn't conflict with your beliefs, then it is fine?

Perhaps I am reading too much into your use of "responsibility". In context, it appears that you are advocating restrictions on free speech?


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: Seuss]
    #7518480 - 10/15/07 06:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

No, I'm not advocating limitations to free speech. If people want to say racist shit then they should have the right to. If not I wouldn't be able to make fun of my black friends when they "AXE me a question" or talk about how "THEY BE". And my black friends wouldn't be able to joke with me about how I can't dance. :smile:

I just think the police departments should also have the right NOT to escort the KKK down the street when they have marches when they feel obliged to.... so racist pricks can see what happens when they practice their free speech just a little too liberally.

I think An Coulter needs to be blindfolded and dropped off in the middle of SouthEast Washington DC one night so she can practice her free speech there.


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: BrAiN]
    #7518515 - 10/15/07 06:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

and thats why we have the 1st amendment, to protect us from people like you. How thoughtful of the founding fathers, such caring people :hug:


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: TheCow]
    #7519551 - 10/15/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: BrAiN]
    #7519793 - 10/15/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You might be liable for arrest for that.

Oddly, no one has taken up a torch against me for pointing out that she was accurately stating Christian doctrine. Is it just that she said it that was wrong or that it was her who said it that was wrong?


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7519964 - 10/15/07 03:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Both. And the fact that she said something bigoted, once again, on national television. Let's not get into the whole Christianity debate though, this is about Ann Coulter and her shock value commentary. If Don Imus can't call people "nappy-headed ho's" then Ann Coulter certainly can't say that Jews need to be "perfected." Plus she's just plain out stupid. Who the fuck cites a Seinfeld episode to varify if something is true? (not to bash Seinfeld or anything, as it is the greatest of all shows)


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7519976 - 10/15/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

How is it bigoted to say what is Christian doctrine? I'm serious, that is what Christians believe and always has been. Where have you been?
I have no idea what the Seinfeld reference is about nor do I see a parallel with Imus, although I and courts think he was wrongfully terminated.


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7519992 - 10/15/07 03:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The connection with Imus is that he said something deemed offensive to a wide audience, which is exactly what Ann Coulter does repeatedly. My point is that she should never be on television.

And so what if Christians (though it is hardly all Christians) believe that Jews need to be perfected, that does not discount that belief from being anti-Semitic. Some people in the South believe that black people are sub-human, just because they believe it does that change the fact that it's bigoted? Not in the slightest.


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7520077 - 10/15/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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You might be liable for arrest for that.

Oddly, no one has taken up a torch against me for pointing out that she was accurately stating Christian doctrine. Is it just that she said it that was wrong or that it was her who said it that was wrong?




You're true. But then again... The jews I'm sure think the Christians need to have the same thing done. That's the whole point of religion.. If you have religion.. obviously you think other people are wrong.

Then again.. it's not neccessarily the christian doctrine. I know plenty of non-denominational Christians who don't fault any other religions because they "could be wrong" themselves and accept the fact that their beliefs are just that... beliefs


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7520088 - 10/15/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You are mistaken. It isn't what some Christians believe, it is 100% Christian doctrine that Jesus is the son of god and that salvation can only be achieved through accepting Christ as lord and saviour. It has nothing whatsoever to do with bigots hating negroes. And I have zero intention of letting the "Chosen People" off the hook. They are the same.


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7520124 - 10/15/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

So Jews, by default, are going to hell then right?

That's part of the problem I had with Christianity that made me lose my faith. It sounded too much to me like you could murder a billion people and still go to heaven as long as you accepted Jesus, but someone who lived his life doing nothing but helping those less fortunate would still burn in hell because he didn't believe in Christ.

Or it could just be the fact that I grew up Catholic in a white trash town in America..



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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: BrAiN]
    #7520146 - 10/15/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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So Jews, by default, are going to hell then right?




That is the dogma
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That's part of the problem I had with Christianity that made me lose my faith. It sounded too much to me like you could murder a billion people and still go to heaven as long as you accepted Jesus, but someone who lived his life doing nothing but helping those less fortunate would still burn in hell because he didn't believe in Christ.




No, you still go to hell for that murder. And those utterly ignorant, such as third world savages and the like, could be forgiven in some sects but the Jews had no excuse. They had ample opportunity to embrace christ. But don't get all mushy over jews. They have the same stupid shit going on. Hence the "Chosen People." I'm sure I don't need to rehash the Muslim attitude here.
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Or it could just be the fact that I grew up Catholic in a white trash town in America..




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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7520171 - 10/15/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hm, Ill have to check on this again, but I thought that the Jews did not believe one has to accept their religion to get into heaven. And even if that is false, the most you can stay in Jewish Hell for, (which is not the same as Christian hell i.e no torturing) is about a year I believe. After that everyone is in heaven. I am fairly certain that in the Jewish faith people of other faith are not considered inferior like in Christianity, everyone is part of Gods covenant.


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7520180 - 10/15/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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So Jews, by default, are going to hell then right?




That is the dogma
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That's part of the problem I had with Christianity that made me lose my faith. It sounded too much to me like you could murder a billion people and still go to heaven as long as you accepted Jesus, but someone who lived his life doing nothing but helping those less fortunate would still burn in hell because he didn't believe in Christ.




No, you still go to hell for that murder. And those utterly ignorant, such as third world savages and the like, could be forgiven in some sects but the Jews had no excuse. They had ample opportunity to embrace christ. But don't get all mushy over jews. They have the same stupid shit going on. Hence the "Chosen People." I'm sure I don't need to rehash the Muslim attitude here.
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Or it could just be the fact that I grew up Catholic in a white trash town in America..




Probably mostly nice people.









No .. just people that went to church not because they wanted to, but because they felt they had to...

I know it sounds stupid.. but when the mass is over and everyone races to get the hell out of the building as soon as possible.. it just was one of the 'little things' that lead to my lack of faith.

I had fridns drag me to Baptist, Episcopalian, and non-denominational churches I never saw that kind of behavior in any other type of church I went to...

Not only that.. but growing up in CCD... they never teach you that "accepting Christ" is how to get into heaven.. just that you can't commit any mortal sins (breaking the 10 commandmends). They never stressed the importance on accepting christ so much as it was just to "be good". CCD was just too much like propoganda to just keep kids from driving their parents nuts and too much "scared straight" tactic... not to mention having kids go through the confirmation process at the age of 13. It's not like Catholic kids have that kind of choice when they're 13. It's either go through it or give you mom a heart attack and her your dad beat your ass until you tell him you'll do it... effectively guilting you into the Confirmation.

So murders who accept christ in the end and repent are 100% going to hell? Or is there a little leeway?


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Re: Ann Coulter, being extra cunty...she says what the rest of the right wants to [Re: TheCow]
    #7520192 - 10/15/07 04:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Frankly, I'm not real clear on the Jewish heaven or hell thing, I just know they think they're special in the eyes of dog. Whatever specialness either group thinks it has, the particulars are irrelevant. They are all douches.

Still, I find any outrage over Coulter saying what everybody knows to be ridiculous. I have other reasons to believe she is an ass.


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