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OfflineWalter1496211
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Re: Netherlands BANS Shrooms [Re: roquet]
    #7514031 - 10/13/07 11:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Glad to hear it brother.


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Re: Netherlands BANS Shrooms [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7514252 - 10/14/07 12:16 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

so are there any countries where it is still sold legally (in shops)? I heard that in Thailand on Ko Pha Ngon or something where they have moon parties you can get them but don't know if they're legit or quality like Amsterdam was....


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Re: Netherlands BANS Shrooms [Re: cruisinalltheway]
    #7514496 - 10/14/07 01:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

what about Czechoslovakia? they were making progress over there regarding mushrooms, i believe.


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Re: Netherlands BANS Shrooms [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7514818 - 10/14/07 06:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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b0red5tiff said:
what about Czechoslovakia? they were making progress over there regarding mushrooms, i believe.




Czechoslovakia does not exist.


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Re: Netherlands BANS Shrooms [Re: Mandark]
    #7514882 - 10/14/07 06:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

this is the consequence of fucking morons and kids getting their hands on potent drugs which their feeble brains cant cope with...
same shit happened in the uk a couple of years ago...

i didnt read the entire thread but im sure that someone has made the comparison to alcohol previously, and the disgraceful amount of social issues it causes... way beyond the shit mushrooms ever caused...

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Re: Netherlands BANS Shrooms [Re: roquet]
    #7515364 - 10/14/07 11:13 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ok,what now?:confused:


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Re: Netherlands BANS Shrooms [Re: Mandark]
    #7515642 - 10/14/07 12:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Mandark said:
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b0red5tiff said:
what about Czechoslovakia? they were making progress over there regarding mushrooms, i believe.




Czechoslovakia does not exist.




sorry, the czech republic.


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Re: Netherlands BANS Shrooms [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7515722 - 10/14/07 12:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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uarewotueat said:
this is the consequence of fucking morons and kids getting their hands on potent drugs which their feeble brains cant cope with...
same shit happened in the uk a couple of years ago...

i didnt read the entire thread but im sure that someone has made the comparison to alcohol previously, and the disgraceful amount of social issues it causes... way beyond the shit mushrooms ever caused...

:kingcrankey:




yah i did. i said they should argue to get alcohol a schedule 1 substance because it meets the requirements far better than shrooms do. not to mention people kill themselves on alcohol + you can die/get addicted to it.


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Re: Netherlands BANS Shrooms [Re: learningtofly]
    #7515987 - 10/14/07 02:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's bad news. I dunno what to say about this. I mean obviously it isn't a good thing for people who fancy hallucinogens. But don't attack the victims. Like if someone takes mushrooms and does some shit that leads them to wind up dead, its a tragedy. People calling them stupid ignorant fucks, are them selfs stupid ignorant fucks. How about some empathy. I think the best redeeming quality of hallucinogens is that it does make people feel empathy towards one and other regardless of conflicting societal pressures. But a little respect for the people who "reached for the secret too soon and cried for the moon". One of these stupid pieces of shit could be you or me.


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Re: Netherlands BANS Shrooms [Re: confusion]
    #7516118 - 10/14/07 02:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Not knowing your self first and not having someone else sober around to monitor you is always a big mistake when adventuring.
1.know your self
2.know your drug
3.know your source
4.have someone trustworthy around


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Re: Netherlands BANS Shrooms [Re: roquet]
    #7517417 - 10/14/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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does this mean Sporeworks will have to stop its research? (Workman's Netherlands-based, isn't he?)




Jamaican-based but thanks for caring.


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Re: Netherlands BANS Shrooms [Re: learningtofly]
    #7541830 - 10/21/07 08:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Sellers Revolt Over Magic Mushroom Ban
October 21, 2007 - sky.com

Magic mushroom sellers in the Netherlands have hit out at a ban on the hallucinogenic plant, saying it will merely make the trade go underground.

Dutch "smartshops" say the new law, set to be brought in over the next few months, is absurd and they will just move on to different drugs.

The move came after a majority in parliament pushed for a ban following a rising number of incidents involving tourists.

In March a 17-year-old French girl died after she threw herself from a bridge in Amsterdam.

She had eaten magic mushrooms, but no formal link was established between the two occurrences.

Earlier this year, Amsterdam health authorities raised the alarm because they saw a significant rise in requests for medical assistance from tourists who had had a bad reaction to the drug.

"We explain to people how to use the mushrooms. We tell them not to mix it with alcohol because that's what's dangerous," said a smartshop owner called Jos.

"If the mushrooms are banned, they will just be sold on the black market, without any instructions.

"Smartshops won't go away, we'll find something new to sell, more potent than the mushrooms. That's why it's absurd to ban them."

And Freddy Schaap of the Dutch smartshop association VLOS, added: "What's clear is that the market won't disappear, it will just move somewhere else.

"People are looking for thrills and they will try to find them elsewhere like with illegal LSD, which is a lot stronger. It's mad. You have a lot more control if you take magic mushrooms."

VLOS said most reported incidents with magic mushrooms involved people who had also drunk a lot of alcohol.

The association also pointed to a health authority report which showed there were almost 10 times as many reported incidents involving alcohol.

In Amsterdam in 2005 the health authorities were called 125 times for mushroom-related incidents, while they treated 2,056 cases where alcohol was involved.


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Re: Netherlands BANS Shrooms [Re: veggie]
    #7568120 - 10/27/07 09:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Dutch protest at magic mushroom ban
October 27, 2007 - Reuters

PROTESTORS turned out on Amsterdam's central Dam Square today, hoping to stop the Government from banning magic mushrooms and asking to "save the 'shrooms".

Carrying banners reading “When will they ban bread?” and “Boss of your own brain”, more than 100 people, some wearing hats resembling the bright red cap of the popular fly agaric variety, protested to keep hallucinogenic mushrooms legal.

After several incidents involving tourists - in March, a French teenager jumped to her death from a bridge after taking mushrooms - the Dutch Government plans to ban them.

Arno Adelaars, author of a book on magic mushrooms, said this would only drive users underground and what was needed instead was better information how to use mushrooms right.

“It's only foreigners who have this problem, the Dutch don't because they have good information,” he said.

“Amsterdam is like a pilgrimage for youngsters in Europe, they come here to get high in all kinds of ways.

“The typical young tourist that comes here drinks an awful lot of beer, smokes an awful lot of grass, and then takes mushrooms.

"That's the recipe for disaster.”

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Re: Netherlands BANS Shrooms [Re: veggie]
    #7571583 - 10/29/07 12:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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veggie said:

"People are looking for thrills and they will try to find them elsewhere like with illegal LSD, which is a lot stronger. It's mad. You have a lot more control if you take magic mushrooms."





Not by my experience.


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