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Suicide house
    #7511570 - 10/12/07 02:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I will be purchasing a house in the near future that a man committed suicide in.

I don't know where to start with this question. I know the guy was a loner, he lived there alone. His girlfriend/wife was over sometimes, he was violent to her. I know for a fact that he threw her through the bedroom wall.

He ended his life in the main room of the house. Single shotgun blast to the cranium.

My question is, should i excise the house according to his religion or mine?


Keep in mind that he was violent during his short stay here on the mortal plane. I don't want him extending his malevolence to my plane of existence.

I don't know exactly what his beliefs were, but i could figure them out by talking to neighbors/relatives. Does the spiritual world respond more to their beliefs or the belief of the mortal that is trying to rid his space of them?


I only worry about this because he seems to have been a violent person and left this mortal world in a sudden and violent way. From what i read this is the type of soul to most fear.


PLEASE HELP, this is very serious as i have a 25 month old son. it seems they are more susceptible to spirits, especially the malevolent ones.


Edited by four20snakeman (10/14/07 01:33 AM)


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Re: Suicide house [Re: four20snakeman]
    #7511572 - 10/12/07 02:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I have to go to bed now but will be checking in on this thread first thing in the morn.


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Re: Suicide house [Re: four20snakeman]
    #7511574 - 10/12/07 02:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

An exorcism is an exorcism, if done properly. The religions just color the details.

A Banishing Ritual would be more effective for a suicide, imo.
The LBRP is always a good idea when moving into a new space.


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Re: Suicide house [Re: Middleman]
    #7511576 - 10/12/07 02:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:rolleyes:there is no afterlife, he is gone and NEVER coming back


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Re: Suicide house [Re: ZShroom]
    #7511591 - 10/13/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You mean he asked that? I musta missed it...

EDIT: By the way, if I was you I'd do it according to your religion, unless you could go all out and do it by yours and his...


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Re: Suicide house [Re: ZShroom]
    #7512513 - 10/13/07 04:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

How do you know if your not dead?

My grandad came back and imparted information that nobody could of posibly known.

Either my gran can see the future or there is an afterlife of some form.


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Re: Suicide house [Re: Ego Death]
    #7512522 - 10/13/07 04:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Even scientists will tell you that energy is never lost - only converted.


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Re: Suicide house [Re: ZShroom]
    #7512761 - 10/13/07 05:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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:rolleyes:there is no afterlife, he is gone and NEVER coming back




Must be nice to be so sure of YOUR OPINION as to state it as if it were a fact.


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Re: Suicide house [Re: Middleman]
    #7512774 - 10/13/07 05:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

No offense meant Ego Death, but I don't think the law of Conservation of energy really proves that there is a personal soul which lives on after death


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Re: Suicide house [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7512809 - 10/13/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Right, but there is more evidence for an afterlife than for not.

Mainly all the accounts of people describing their surroundings while flatlined,
some of them described in more detail than possible from just hearing.

I wonder what are they SEEING with? Why do we even have eyes?


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Re: Suicide house [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7512811 - 10/13/07 05:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I would think positive brother. Bad things happen to bad people. Good things happen to good people in the end. (please dont everyone attack me for saying this)


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Re: Suicide house [Re: four20snakeman]
    #7513085 - 10/13/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Definitively excise it in your believe system. It serves you and your spirits which you will be living with in this house.
Excising it with his religion could enforce his back 'echo' in the house.


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Re: Suicide house [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #7513091 - 10/13/07 06:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Sweet avitar Blue!!!


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Re: Suicide house [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #7513107 - 10/13/07 06:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I would not be concerned about doing anything with this house; either move in and be happy, or don't buy it. IMO the dead will only have control over you, your family, and your house if you let them.
By feeling the need to purge this dwelling, you are setting yourself up to have an excuse later on if/when things don't go your way. That's not healthy IMO.


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Re: Suicide house [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7513241 - 10/13/07 07:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I would think positive brother. Bad things happen to bad people. Good things happen to good people in the end.


Do you have evidence to support this claim? How does one define 'good' and 'bad'?


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as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
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Re: Suicide house *DELETED* [Re: Lion]
    #7513266 - 10/13/07 07:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Suicide house [Re: Chubba]
    #7513490 - 10/13/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, some good points have already been covered. Your concern IS well founded, but keep in mind that fear WILL act as a catalyst. Also, even houses in which no death has been committed, but in which a lot of negative energy has been expelled, can have a certain negative aura about them. This is something that I am extremely receptive of. I find it easy to differentiate a "happy" home from a miserable one without proper knowledge. Rationalize all you want, but thats the way it is. A truly miserable house will make you feel like you have a psychic vampire draining you.

So yes, a banishing is well founded regardless of the structure, as long as the method is proper. Some people even use laughter to effect. Another thing I recommend is to change the house. Make it a more positive environment. Stay away from drab colors. Do'nt make it too cheery, thats downright annoying, but a warm "homely" feel is encouraged.

Remember that at 25 months old, a child is extremely vulnerable to psychological imprinting. Even if all our speculation about a hell house is bunk, it is intelligent to bring the child up in an ideal environment, whatever that may imply. Just remember always that fear is a catalyst. Things that go bump in the night usually do'nt present a problem that cannot be solved. It's humanity that you have to be concerned about.
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Re: Suicide house [Re: lavod]
    #7514062 - 10/13/07 11:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

id be safe and burn some stuff and make sure that dude is sent


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Re: Suicide house [Re: Lion]
    #7514079 - 10/13/07 11:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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bug said:
Quote:

Walter1496211 said:
I would think positive brother. Bad things happen to bad people. Good things happen to good people in the end.


Do you have evidence to support this claim? How does one define 'good' and 'bad'?


I have none at all faith is freedom hopefully you are free.


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Re: Suicide house [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7514372 - 10/14/07 12:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks to everyone for the advice.

For some reason i got goosebumps while reading lavod's post. It fits in with what i believe.

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lavod saidWell, some good points have already been covered. Your concern IS well founded, but keep in mind that fear WILL act as a catalyst. Also, even houses in which no death has been committed, but in which a lot of negative energy has been expelled, can have a certain negative aura about them. This is something that I am extremely receptive of. I find it easy to differentiate a "happy" home from a miserable one without proper knowledge. Rationalize all you want, but thats the way it is. A truly miserable house will make you feel like you have a psychic vampire draining you.

So yes, a banishing is well founded regardless of the structure, as long as the method is proper. Some people even use laughter to effect. Another thing I recommend is to change the house. Make it a more positive environment. Stay away from drab colors. Don't make it too cheery, thats downright annoying, but a warm "homely" feel is encouraged.

Remember that at 25 months old, a child is extremely vulnerable to psychological imprinting. Even if all our speculation about a hell house is bunk, it is intelligent to bring the child up in an ideal environment, whatever that may imply. Just remember always that fear is a catalyst. Things that go bump in the night usually don't present a problem that cannot be solved. It's humanity that you have to be concerned about.




Then thedudenj says this.
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thedudenj saidid be safe and burn some stuff and make sure that dude is sent




That is the way i am feeling. I want to do something to be sure the dude is sent, just to be on the safe side.

Can someone point me towards a site that would discuss how different religions banish malevolent or suicidal spirits?


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