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OfflineBreakfastClub
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Re: fruiting with bags [Re: orchidfanatic]
    #7682389 - 11/26/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I was under the assumption they still needed fresh air moving around them....


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Re: fruiting with bags [Re: BreakfastClub]
    #7682443 - 11/26/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Damn, it sure is a kicker having the substrate recipe witheld from you for the sake of profit.  This is the first time I've come across secrecy in the name of profit on a board like this where the idea is to share knowledge.  Oh well..:freakybirdthing:


Edited by VisionsToReality (11/26/07 04:31 PM)


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Re: fruiting with bags [Re: BreakfastClub]
    #7682474 - 11/26/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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BreakfastClub said:
I was under the assumption they still needed fresh air moving around them....



Yeah, this is the paradox

Everyone raves about FAE, yet then we have these things growing in bags with only filter patches...

I think some people manually deflate/inflate their bags for FAE, every day?

Or do you guys achieve this without manual FAE - just a filter patch?

That'd be nice if someone could clarify the FAE in a bag thing.


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Re: fruiting with bags [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7682780 - 11/26/07 05:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I tried to squeeze air out but it didnt go .. some patches are much finer than others. I could get no air out of it
I made some bags that were basically a mixture of
coir coffe hpoo diatomatious earth . gypsom calcium carbonate
you can use kelp fert . even some verm to help hold water..
one bag made 276 grams wet another just made a couple of really big shrooms .. I am trying the MM bags so we will see how they compare to my homemade bags ..


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Re: fruiting with bags [Re: orchidfanatic]
    #7682787 - 11/26/07 05:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

And what'd you do, sterilize the bag of your mix, seal, and inoculate? Pretty much that simple?


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Re: fruiting with bags [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7682804 - 11/26/07 05:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

actually with my bags I spawned to them and none contamed .. I did it in a still air box .. it was 1 qt rye spawn to 2 qts substrate.. I would think that .5 to 2qts would be better since they hold water longer I think they are drying out .. one fruited nice one was only a couple of fruits but large and the last one is still no pins just sitting there..
the substrate was pasteurized not sterilized but you could sterilize and use LC to knock them up with MM bags I used 30CC of LC one colonized really fast the other took a long time but is now colonzied . one is pinning


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Re: fruiting with bags [Re: Cacophony]
    #7685769 - 11/27/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I use USPS boxes to measure / incubate / fruit...

I fill my bags in the box till it is even with the box.... Works great

http://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10152&storeId=10001&categoryId=13354&productId=11697&langId=-1

this box and it is free :smile:


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Re: fruiting with bags [Re: BreakfastClub]
    #10152199 - 04/12/09 01:44 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Just wanted to bring this post up for the noobs. Its a great read.


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Re: fruiting with bags [Re: shroomerite]
    #10206208 - 04/21/09 10:08 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

the type of cube you use is very, very important with these.
usually I would just say stick to PE, for it is the only one with consistant
results across the board.  PE does not need the FAE others do.
It's a crazy mutant that doesn't mind the bags at all.

and yes, it is very simple.

make substrate and load into bags.
pressure cook bags.
seal bags.
add some sort of inocuation port to them if the bags aren't the
fancy ones that come with them already built in.
inoculate with 30-60cc of LC.
mix up the substrate.
place into container and set on a shelf.
in a little over a month, open the bag for a killer harvest.
spray a little water in there, close the bag up with a couple paper clips.
set back on shelf.
in another week or so... harvest again.

yeah, it's that simple.


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Re: fruiting with bags [Re: monstermitch]
    #10206220 - 04/21/09 10:12 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

how big are those bags? and wat strain


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Re: fruiting with bags [Re: monstermitch]
    #11715733 - 12/25/09 05:38 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

What temp. are you talking about here? 75 degrees?


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Re: fruiting with bags [Re: steinringer]
    #11715783 - 12/25/09 06:22 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Ya, be selective on what you choose to do in bags...some strains suck in bags and perform poorly....you can squeeze the air out of the bags and re-fluff em for a lil air exchange if needed...I prefer putting em in a FC and growing em out that way...but to each his own...


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