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veggie

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Jimsonweed Overdose [TX]
#7511053 - 10/11/07 10:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jimsonweed Overdose October 10, 2007 - ktsm.com
The 17-year-old girl remains at Las Palmas hospital but her condition has improved. Her mother says she ate several seeds from a Jimsonweed plant. she says her daughter suffered from a high heart rate and hallucinations.
Valenzuela believes another student gave her daughter the weed at Del Valle High School. We found some right behind the school, and administrators with the Ysleta District say they plan to pull the weed immediately.
They call what happened an "unfortunate" situation, but say they're still investigating whether the incident happened on campus or not.
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Ivellios
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Re: Jimsonweed Overdose [TX] [Re: veggie]
#7511086 - 10/11/07 10:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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that sucks... she will be there for a few days. I could not imagine tripping in a hospital on something that serious for days, that would completely rewire the way i see the world.
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Re: Jimsonweed Overdose [TX] [Re: veggie]
#7511096 - 10/11/07 10:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I pity her, but then again I don't because that's such a stupid thing to do. I hope she makes it alright and learns a little something from this.
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sui
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Re: Jimsonweed Overdose [TX] [Re: Ivellios]
#7511367 - 10/12/07 12:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ivellios said: that sucks... she will be there for a few days. I could not imagine tripping in a hospital on something that serious for days, that would completely rewire the way i see the world.
Hers my experience of tripping on datura in the hospital for 2 days.
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originally posted: 9/05/04 Okay since this is going into public domain i would like to first say that what i did was an EXTREMLEY DUMB THING. It was damn near a lethal dose and i strongly urge anyone who plans on doing detura to RESEARCH it and dose responsibly. Also i dont recomend it to anyone. I will also post what i know of my friends trips on it for a different experience than mine.
Ok first i want to explain the nature of a detura trip. Detura is a very..... Hmmm CONFUSION AND DELUSION sum it up. unlike mushrooms where you KNOW your trippin with detura its very different It sneaks up on you. You forget your trippin and think its real, for the time your under the influence the trip becomes your reality in a very real and scary way.
How we got the idea-
My friend was staying the night at my house. On the drive home we drove past the church down the street from my house. He noticed the Detura tree in the courtyard and when we got to my house he said "Wanna trip?" and "i was like why the fuck not. On what" and he was like "detura" and i said whats detura he said its a flower i saw a tree of it in the church courtyard. Being the ignorant little fuck i was at that point i aws like cool drugs on a church coool. (stupid i know) We waited for my parents to go to sleep and went to the church to get the flowers. We got like 20 and went back to my house and set up a little portable stove in my room got a pot of water and shredded the flowers. (Now looking back i cant believe we did this but the fact that neither of us knew anything about detura except for the fact that it got you fucked up stood in the way) I was like "Maybe we didnt get enough lets go and get some more" we went back to the tree and got like 8 more flowers. (now this was stupider than not doing any research at all) We got back to my house and made the tea and drank it. 10:30ish Wednsday night
The Trip-
After we drank the tea we got cotton mouth really bad and felt REALLY REALLY stoned and drunk. I remember getting really confused and my head hitting the pillow and the next thing i knew it was 7:00 in the morning. I remember hearing my dad yelling time to go, meet me at the car. The next thing i know im outside next to the car without my shoes on. My dad asked me why i wasnt ready to go and i was like Shalla ferna bel noa ganna or some other gibberis and he was like OH MY GOD YOU STONED GO INSIDE. Like i said before i didnt know i was trippin there werent any halucinations no body high nothin except i coulnt talk really well. So i go inside and this is when the halucinations start i walked around my house talkin to people that werent there and shit so my stepmom called my dad and told him that i had done some crazy drug but she didnt know what, so my dad gets back and i was upstairs and he asks me what im doing and i just thought to myself "what does he think im doing?" i WAS watching tv or i thought that i was and i told him that and and he was like "WHAT!!! The tv is not even on" The next thing i knew i was in an ambulence being taken to the hospital. (most of the rest of the trip i remember in fragments) I remember being in a black room on a table I was told i pissed myself after but in the thows of the trip i thought they were trying to steal from me when they tried to get me out of my clothes and into a gown. I FREAKED and started swingin and hit a doctor and my dad. They brought in this huge dude to hold me down while they strapped me to the bed and shot me full of valium. (They didnt even know what i was on) The next thing i remember im strapped to a hospital bed and my parents were there. They kept askin what i had taken and i told them Ritalin, go figure ive never even done ritalin. My speech was still so fucked up they had a hard time trying to decipher what i was saying. Apperently the only words that i said clearly were Baby im sorry and baby i love you a couple times when my girlfriend called. then i blacked out again. When i came to the whole room was covered in ants it was nuts i just looked around and they were EVERYWHERE crawling on everything it was so crazy. I kept thinking i was smoking a ciggarette, well I WAS smoking a ciggarette. I saw it saw the cherry felt it on my lips felt the smoke tasted it everything I WAS smoking then it was gone and i realized i was in a hospital and couldnt possobly be smoking and was just like weird. I looked around and saw this really long hallway and saw my girlfriend and all my friends sitting there talking and laghing and having fun and i was like why arnt they coming over to see me im in the hospital. I came to later at the end of my trip and looked over and a wall was there. Now that was a mindfuck. over all this took place over 2 days of solid tripping they kept me for another half a day and i was released. For the next week my vision was fucked, my balence still isnt the same i think i did perma dammage to it, and my temper was REALLY REALLY REALLY short the stupidist things would PISS me off really bad and i mean pissed. gradually i returned to normal and tryed to put it behind me. It was the most intense thing i have ever experienced and am glad i experienced it in the hospital because who knows what would have happened if i was just out walking around because you dont stay still and you wont stay still anything could have happened to me while i was that fuckered up. I will never do it again.
What i learned-
This experience taught me that a person needs to respect nature and that these substances are extremly powerful and not something to be used to get fucked up on mushies and pot included, all drugs and that if i was going to use ANYTHING i needed to research it, know everything that i can about it and to allways have a reason to use and never do it to escape from reality or for the wrong reasons. i learned a lot from it and am a different person today because of it. Would i go back to change it if i could?-NO it taught me a lesson i will never forget. PLEASE USE CAUTION WHEN EXPERIMENTING WITH DETURA. I WOULDNT WISH MY EXPERIENCE ON ANYONE BUT THERE ARE THOSE OF YOU THAT JUST ARE GOING TO DO IT. THOSE OF YOU WHO DO PLEASE PREPARE, DONT TAKE TO MUCH AND RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH. Learn everything you can about it before you delve into its delusins. Thanx for putting up with this long ass report it was weird to relive it.
AS A FINAL NOTE: something me and my friend thought about while reflecting on our trips (ill writ the other two trips my friend told me about tomarrow. Yes he did it after, he said he had to do it one more time to really know what it was all about, go figure) Think about this DETURE-DETURA its name says it all
SUIMUSH
This experience was both the worst experience of my life and the best experience of my life. Respect this plant man, cause if you dont she will OWN you.
-------------------- "There is never a wrong note, bend it." Jimi Hendrix
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Re: Jimsonweed Overdose [TX] [Re: sui]
#7511390 - 10/12/07 12:13 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i hope none of them needs to rub their eye after they pull that weed. i doubt they wear gloves or treat it with the respect it deserves.
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looking_crow
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Re: Jimsonweed Overdose [TX] [Re: sui]
#7511816 - 10/13/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ya know, there is a saying by Paracelcus, everything is is poison, nothing is poison... Really it depends on the dose. She can kill you, the spirit of Datura (correct spelling). But if you say it was a tree then it was probably a Brugmansia and not a Datura, though both containing Tropane Alkoloids and in the Solanaceae family. You are right, you need to do much more research. Now is the time of infinite information. Here is just a taste of what the real datura, and probably some other nightshades, can do for you.
Lets say your out in the desert on a hike, far from home, and your car, and you break your leg, or akle or foot. The pain to walk balk on a broken bone would be next to unbearable. If you were fortunate enough not to break the skin there is something you can do to walk out with no pain. Find a Datura patch and gather as much leaf and flower as possible, discading sharp pods, stems and such....grind up with a little water, or if prefered, spit, in between two flat rocks, or a pot if you have it, or dig a hole and put your poncho in it, use it as a basin...,,,, once the plant material is pulverized, wrap tightly but not too tightly around the break with cloth, moisten from the outside and secure with more cloth....wait 5 minutes and start walking.
two- if you are a asthmatic this plant is your ally. One day you forget your inhaler and your over at your friends house 2 hours away from home, where your inhaler is, you start having a really bad asthma attack and you start to freak, luckily your friend is a savvy self trained basement shaman and knows exactly what to do. He runs up to his herb collection and takes out some ethically wildcrafted Datura leaf quickly rolls a joint with it, brings it down to you in a hurry and lets you take 1-2 inhalations, then your lungs immediately expand to their capacity your throat opens up and your attack ceases to be.
This plant is one who is there for people who are in tough spots. If you want to get involved with the plants spirit, go to northern mexico and find an old lady Curandera, (not a bruja), and ask her to teach you for what she needs in trade. I'm sure thats the best research you could do if you were serious about Datura specifically, cuz she has a doorway that some never get to, the other side is her paradise, which she gaurds with her strength and potency, those who get through that door sometimes don't know how to find their way back home. These Curanderas do. They know the pathway. Anyone who knows anybody who has taken Datura knows that they are usually not very nice people afterwards, or have drastic mood swings and paranoia mixed with a lack of social skills that deter them from functioning normaly in society...whatever that means, what I'm really trying to say is that those who delve into the realms of the Hexing herbs will no doubt come out of the experience changed and in many ways to the worse if they know not what they do. Also, I believe that they will come out of the experience with part of themselves missing, and part of her (the spirit of Datura) replacing it....sometimes it just a little piece, sometimes it is a big piece....I think every drug does this, just at different ratios and different intensities...... BE SAFE AND KNOW THAT IT IS ALL ONE
-Looking Crow
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Clean
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Re: Jimsonweed Overdose [TX] [Re: looking_crow]
#7513192 - 10/13/07 07:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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wonderful post..all that was new to me (well, all except for the last four words at the end )
Edited by Clean (10/13/07 07:20 PM)
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looking_crow
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Re: Jimsonweed Overdose [TX] [Re: Clean]
#7595234 - 11/04/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you. I have 9 years of herbal study behind me and a lifetime ahead of me, if anyone ever has any herbal questions just feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer you all. I love questions.
peace, looking crow
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