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MushmanTheManic
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Why does our society seem to do such an awful job of dealing with sexual assault? It seems like it is only stigmatized by a small minority of moral people - everyone else either completely ignores it or condones it. Most people are not even educated about it until college and I suspect many are not even educated about it then.
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I think it's because of the woman hating/fearing that is a big part of average male fear based emotional landscape . So men aren't going to give very harsh treatment to something they secretly want to and might do.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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MushmanTheManic
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That is depressing.
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I find much human behavior saddening. But that's life. Just keep your rape fantasies in your head dude or act them out with a consenting partner. That's about all one can do.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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MushmanTheManic
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I have no rape fantasies - only fantasies about punishing rapists.
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You are one sick fuck.
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MushmanTheManic
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To illustrate my point:
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July 29, 2007 12:00am
VICTIMS of rape and child abuse are being advised not to report the matter to police or pursue the crime in court because it will cause them further pain.
Counselling services and support networks say seeking justice for sexual assault in NSW courts rarely results in a successful prosecution.
Support group Advocates For Survivors Of Child Abuse told a recent parliamentary inquiry that victims would experience further trauma if they took the case to court.
"When people are making contact with healthcare workers, domestic violence centres or rape crisis centres, they are generally being advised not to go to the police because the likelihood is that if they do they will actually be exposed to further harm in the court system and they are unlikely to get a good result,'' director Michael Salter said.
"We feel it is important that sexual assault victims are provided with realistic advice regarding the conduct of rape trials and the likelihood of conviction.''
NSW Rape Crisis Centre Karen Willis said it is important to empower victims by allowing them to make their own decision about reporting rapes and sexual offences to police.
She said counsellors did paint a realistic picture, warning victims that the court process could be "soul-destroying'' and could take years.
Figures show only 10 per cent of sexual offences are reported to police, with only one per cent of these resulting in a successful prosecution.
Volunteers and Witnesses of Crime Court Support co-ordinator, Pieta Thornton prepares victims to face court, arming them with the knowledge that defence lawyers will tell them they are liars.
Ms Thornton said this experience can be extremely difficult for victims, with one girl too traumatised to give evidence in court.
You'd think this would be a civil rights issue that nearly everyone was concerned about... but it is not. I suspect most people just have their heads up their ass.
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This is why women (and men) need to take the issue into thier own hands and ruin the lives of the perpetrators. Seriously. If someone who was guilty of rape was attacked constantly and very publicly ostracized and harrassed, would they be likely to commit again? There's an example of this I know about in the punk scene in the US where this guy repeatedly sexually assaulted much younger girls and when it came out it was broadly publicized (within the wider scene - all of north america) people wrote publications about it including his name and thier personal stories and when people saw him in public they harrassed the hell out of him. He deserved it, and it worked. It warned women that were likely to encounter him that he was untrustworthy.
Another example I heard of was of women who'd been assaulted by this one guy printed up thousands of stickers that said 'so and so is a rapist' and stuck them all over the city. I believe they also called his work repeatedly and harrassed him there, as well as letting all his coworkers know what happened.
This is much more effective than the 1 month jail term a rapist or assaulter is likely to recieve, and much more empowering for the victim than the character assault they would be facing in the court system. For the victim, this sort of response allows them to stop feeling like a victim and take back a sense of power.
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Wow... I'm surprised I never thought of that. I have to thank you for sharing this information with me. I was just planning breaking into their house and beating them with a baseball bat... but I always pussed out at the last minute. (Plus people kept telling me, "No, don't do it!!!! You'll get arrested! Blah blah blah!")
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My friend was raped - by a woman.
At least he claimed to be? The courts believed him too - the woman was sent to jail!
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Animals rape, steal and kill all the time, if we evolved from animals then its in our nature.
We may have evolved beyond that (at least some of us have) but its still a part of the code for life.
Thats a good one for the religious nuts - how does that ^ fit into your ideology?
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Personally, i like your baseball bat idea better.
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Ego Death said: Animals rape, steal and kill all the time, if we evolved from animals then its in our nature.
We may have evolved beyond that (at least some of us have) but its still a part of the code for life.
Thats a good one for the religious nuts - how does that ^ fit into your ideology?
Fallacy.
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I'm not saying its right or wrong.
Theres just no denying that its part of life.
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Mushman, I was always under the impression that rape was very seriously taken.
Doesn't rape get at least 20+ years in prison? Are you aware of how many ridiculous charges are filed against people for sexually related incidents?
I had a friend who is now considered a sexual offender because he slapped a girl on the ass. I think the states takes it pretty seriously.
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Ego Death said: I'm not saying its right or wrong.
Theres just no denying that its part of life.
People used to say that about slavery.
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MushmanTheManic
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Doesn't rape get at least 20+ years in prison?
It varies from state to state. Regardless of the legal penalties, convicting only 1% of a population that commits a crime is terrible - especially considering how heinous this crime is.
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Are you aware of how many ridiculous charges are filed against people for sexually related incidents?
According to the FBI, there is an extremely low amount of false rape allegations.
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I agree because not many people would want to go through the uncomfortable medical exams not to mention the court cases.
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According to the FBI, there is an extremely low amount of false rape allegations.
hmmm.... I'm not negating that rape is terrible crime, I think it is, but I think you may be over-exaggerating this some.
As a girl, I can assure you that A LOT of girls say rape to either receive money or attention. Especially in high school, girls would always claim rape when they got drunk and slept with a guy so they wouldn't seem like a slut.
You should seriously look into how many sex offenders from decades past are finally being freed thanks to DNA evidence.
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DimensionX said: Personally, i like your baseball bat idea better.
The beauty is that the baseball bat technique fits in quite effectively with the technique I outlined, they're like peanut butter and jam. It's just that also doing what I talked about includes a wider circle of people, and makes a public life for the rapist much more difficult. I private beating may really suck for the dude, but alone it doesn't warn others to watch out for the guy.
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